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Kixi Rajki

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Apart from Vader's scene in Rogue One, Disney have gotten it all wrong when it comes to lightsabres. I love this guy's analysis, especially in that scene where Rey and Kylo kill Snoke and take on his bodyguards.

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Actually, Disney has no idea about Star Wars in general. I'm sure Marvel fans have their own grievances, but it's painfully obvious to us in the new trilogy films that they are written by fans of the idea of Star Wars. They are homages to Star Wars, and are not Star Wars.

 

This is why you get glaring mistakes like these. The writers don't care about continuity or good story, just about evoking the same feeling that Star Wars brought to them when they were kids, to a new generation of kids.

 

Rogue One and Solo, while they have weaknesses, are far closer to actual Star Wars stories than the sequel trilogy.



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Laser swords.


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Technically it can't be a laser sword because lasers are as defined in the dictionary;

A laser is a device that emits light through a process of optical amplification based on the stimulated emission of electromagnetic radiation. The term "laser" originated as an acronym for "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation"

A lightsabre in the Star Wars movies are not the above, but rather a contained plasma beam without any physical tubes or the like containing the blade like extending plasma Blade.

But I think the concept of getting it wrong goes back even before. For example, in Italy they love to dub their American movies into Italian. The people who dubbed them NEVER understood lightsabres. The Italian translation for a lightsabre is 'spada laser' which literally means 'laser sword.' At least the Spanish speakers got it right with their dubs. It's 'sable de luz' en español. Literalmente sabre of light o lightsabre. :-)

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Anakin and Luke call it a laser sword. It's canon.

 

I am also being frivolous.


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Disney got no idea about ANITHING. No big suprise. The only thing that company vas ever good at, vas making kids cartoons. They shuld have sticked to that, and leaved Star Wars to people vho have a karking clue.



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Remember that guy who made those horrible prequel films...he knew a thing or two about lightsabers.


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Hey! Nothing vrong with prequels. In fact i liked them, they wer wel-maked and respekted old canon.



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Yeah old prequels have awesome lightsabre scenes. New ones... Rey could take on and beat Darth Vader with bugger all training... lets not even bother going there.

 

 

Hey! Nothing vrong with prequels. In fact i liked them, they wer wel-maked and respekted old canon.

 


Edited by Kixi Rajki, 03 January 2019 - 11:03 PM.

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Oh dont even get me STARTED on Rey. I hate that character vith a passion.



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Oh how you got to love Disney. All that happened there was Disney was like "hey, i bet we can make a lot of money by making star wars. it'll be great!" But they had no idea what they were doing, only that they would make money off the name because it is so iconic. Hence we have the films that we do. Sure the sequel trilogy has its moments where it shows potential, but overall the juggernaut that is Disney has done more harm than good to the franchise. 

 

What I will say positive about one of Disney's more controversial decisions about Star Wars is this: I am happy in a way that they decided to create their own new canon instead of trying to replicate from the numerous books that had been written. Can you imagine how badly they would have screwed all of that up? I think I would have been angrier had they brought in Boba and Mara and the kids and screwed them up because I knew them from the books and how they were supposed to be. So I truly appreciate that they chose not to butcher what had been written with poorly represented characters that were nothing like we all know they should have been. At least that's my opinion on that matter. Disagree with me if you like.



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Aitir Kor'sa Solid point there. I think i'd be madder if theyd more obviously bastardized the EU stories.


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Actually, Disney has no idea about Star Wars in general. I'm sure Marvel fans have their own grievances, but it's painfully obvious to us in the new trilogy films that they are written by fans of the idea of Star Wars. They are homages to Star Wars, and are not Star Wars.

 

This is why you get glaring mistakes like these. The writers don't care about continuity or good story, just about evoking the same feeling that Star Wars brought to them when they were kids, to a new generation of kids.

 

Rogue One and Solo, while they have weaknesses, are far closer to actual Star Wars stories than the sequel trilogy.

 

You just said Disney doesn't understand how to make Star Wars films by evoking the same ideas and feelings that the original Star Wars gave to their audiences in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s which if we translate the 'I didn't like these new films' gibberish you just said means: they make Star Wars films.

 

You don't like the new films because the main character is a Mary Sue and Luke Skywalker was taken in a different direction than what you wanted. Everything else about the Last Jedi and the Force Awakens are pretty good. In particular the first half hour of the Force Awakens was a lot stronger than A New Hope and the Return of the Jedi first half. The new sequel films are better than the Phantom Menace and definitely the Clone Wars.

 

Kylo Ren is a fantastic character. Killing Han Solo in the way that they did was impressive and great cinema. Finn is a good character. The bar scene in the Force Awakens was nostalgic and fantastic. The battle at the end of the Force Awakens was better than the Return of the Jedi's battle. Kylo and Rey killing Snoke and his guards was better than Anakin vs. Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith (my favourite out of all of them.)

 

Disney have done a better job with Marvel than they did Star Wars but they're still Star Wars films in both the way they are portrayed, how they feel and how they were put together in cinema. 



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Whilst I agree that Disney would have screwed it more if they had gone with what’s now called Legends, but, the Legends EU universe is better and will always be better then all this new canon crap. I’m a hardcore SW fan and I gave the new canon along with the new canon books ago. The Legends stuff is better. Those old books I loved and enjoyed reading them so much. The adventures, the battles, the characters such as Mars Jade, the Solo kids, the proper and original Thrawn just to name a few. It’s the best and always will be.

Oh how you got to love Disney. All that happened there was Disney was like "hey, i bet we can make a lot of money by making star wars. it'll be great!" But they had no idea what they were doing, only that they would make money off the name because it is so iconic. Hence we have the films that we do. Sure the sequel trilogy has its moments where it shows potential, but overall the juggernaut that is Disney has done more harm than good to the franchise.

What I will say positive about one of Disney's more controversial decisions about Star Wars is this: I am happy in a way that they decided to create their own new canon instead of trying to replicate from the numerous books that had been written. Can you imagine how badly they would have screwed all of that up? I think I would have been angrier had they brought in Boba and Mara and the kids and screwed them up because I knew them from the books and how they were supposed to be. So I truly appreciate that they chose not to butcher what had been written with poorly represented characters that were nothing like we all know they should have been. At least that's my opinion on that matter. Disagree with me if you like.


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Disney have done a better job with Marvel than they did Star Wars but they're still Star Wars films in both the way they are portrayed, how they feel and how they were put together in cinema.


The Marvel movies rock. Agreed. At least Disney got that one right. Hopefully their next hit Captain Marvel which I’m looking forward to is good.

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Disney is good vith anithing for kids or thoze who feel like kids. Since Marvel is about super-heros, thats prety much a given they wuld be good at it.

 

Ask them to make a serius movie - they kark it up.



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I agreeNatalija . Any kind of serious movie, Disney struggles to produce and directed well. They still make money on anything they make, but it's definitely their stuff directed toward younger audiences that does the best.



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I liked The Force Awakens, even if it was basically scene-for-scene a near identical copy of A New Hope. The potential plot hooks and story prompts were interesting and I enjoyed thinking about some, though I didn't go overboard like others with theories or expectations.

 

The Last Jedi was... terrible. The schism between directors was clear and obvious, with Rian just outright throwing J.J's prompts out the window (or over the shoulder), and a lot of the visuals and scene setup was almost directly copied from other sources. Not to say all of the other movies have been completely original in direction choices, etc, but Rian's was fairly blatant - such as the throne room fight mirroring the Wizard of Oz, and the color palettes/moves for the fighting and combat mimicking Ella Enchanted (I'm not kidding, check it out). Also time inconsistencies, such as Finn/Rose having the eighteen hour time frame, but Rey also being on Luke's planet for several days, ship fuel, Luke's characterization, Rey (in general), Luke not giving Rey a third lesson, etc, etc.

 

But yeah, it wasn't great. It had moments, visually it was impressive, but there weren't as many for me as TFA.


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well he ain't wrong.


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The only "serious" Star Wars film was Revenge of the Sith. All the other films were children stories that had subtle adult themes much like most children films had in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Phantom Menace and Clone Wars were boring mostly but enjoyable if you liked the lore and definitely children narratives. They upped it a notch with RoTS.