combining force powers

[sabrina]

I was wondering, is it possible to augment force powers.

i.e. fire with force bellows

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

All you need remember is an old, favorite saying of mine.

The Force is infinite; your ability to use it is not.

You could theoretically augment any Force Power you wanted with another Force Power, the question should always be 'is this reasonable for my character to perform.' If there's a moments hesitation, the answer is probably no.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Sarge Potteiger"] the science says yes, to me. Though I always like a second opinion, as I am sometimes believe it or not wrong.

As force fire once moving, consumes oxygen. Force bellows is in theory, compressed air to form a shock wave. So theory it would make flame burn hotter, then again too much and it might blow it out. I just intrested in second opinion, before I try and use it some time.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

This is Star Wars.

Science here is goofy at best.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Sarge Potteiger"] True but I always like something to use as a base point, otherwise you might get intergalactic teleporting jedi.

p.s. Merry Christmas

 

[Edward Vyperion]

[member="sabrina"]

Teleportin' is b@ as far as I know

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="sabrina"]
Force Bellow has nothing to do with air, just throwing that out there first. Second, to answer the implied question, no Force Bellow is the increase of sound waves from the user's amplified voice. That would not do anything to the fire, though if it had any effect, it would likely be to snuff it out.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Silara Vantai"] http://www.macrosonix.com/compression.html

sorry but physics is physics, a sound wave is pressurised air

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="sabrina"]
A sound wave is not pressurized air. Sound waves are P and S waves. It is a vibration. Air is not required to exist, as air does not exist within solid steel where sound is carried. Sound is not carried well by air, hence the use of Force Bellow. Physics are physics, and your own link does not even mention air. Pressurized waves are not air.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

The Force has little to no scientific basis, applying science to it is like applying the welding process to crop harvesting.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Silara Vantai"]

Because of the longitudinal motion of the air particles, there are regions in the air where the air particles are compressed together and other regions where the air particles are spread apart. These regions are known as compressions and rarefactions respectively. The compressions are regions of high air pressure while the rarefactions are regions of low air pressure. The diagram below depicts a sound wave created by a tuning fork and propagated through the air in an open tube. The compressions and rarefactions are labeled.

The wavelength of a wave is merely the distance that a disturbance travels along the medium in one complete wave cycle. Since a wave repeats its pattern once every wave cycle, the wavelength is sometimes referred to as the length of the repeating patterns - the length of one complete wave. For a transverse wave, this length is commonly measured from one wave crest to the next adjacent wave crest or from one wave trough to the next adjacent wave trough. Since a longitudinal wave does not contain crests and troughs, its wavelength must be measured differently. A longitudinal wave consists of a repeating pattern of compressions and rarefactions. Thus, the wavelength is commonly measured as the distance from one compression to the next adjacent compression or the distance from one rarefaction to the next adjacent rarefaction.


oh welding is very important crop harvesting otherwise tractor would fall to bits

[member="Sarge Potteiger"]

 

[Barkt Melan]

[member="sabrina"]
Sound Waves put out fire

But [member="Sarge Potteiger"] is right. Science and the Force aren't on speaking terms.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Barkt Melan"] cheers for that, that answer my question on that one. Thought it do one or the other, just wished it was other.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Silara Vantai"]

Because of the longitudinal motion of the air particles, there are regions in the air where the air particles are compressed together and other regions where the air particles are spread apart. These regions are known as compressions and rarefactions respectively. The compressions are regions of high air pressure while the rarefactions are regions of low air pressure. The diagram below depicts a sound wave created by a tuning fork and propagated through the air in an open tube. The compressions and rarefactions are labeled.

The wavelength of a wave is merely the distance that a disturbance travels along the medium in one complete wave cycle. Since a wave repeats its pattern once every wave cycle, the wavelength is sometimes referred to as the length of the repeating patterns - the length of one complete wave. For a transverse wave, this length is commonly measured from one wave crest to the next adjacent wave crest or from one wave trough to the next adjacent wave trough. Since a longitudinal wave does not contain crests and troughs, its wavelength must be measured differently. A longitudinal wave consists of a repeating pattern of compressions and rarefactions. Thus, the wavelength is commonly measured as the distance from one compression to the next adjacent compression or the distance from one rarefaction to the next adjacent rarefaction.


oh welding is very important crop harvesting otherwise tractor would fall to bits

[member="Sarge Potteiger"]

Please re-read that. Sound waves displace air. That diagram is the vibrational pattern of sound passing through time (The line).

 

[Ellie Mors]

http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/acoustics/sound.htm

 

[sabrina]

[member="Silara Vantai"]
When the molecules are pushed closer together it is called compression; when they are pulled apart, it is called rarefaction. The back and forth oscillation of pressure produces a sound waves.


This backs me up

 

[Edward Vyperion]

I'd say try experimenting on force power combinations, but making them reasonable xD

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Silara Vantai"]
When the molecules are pushed closer together it is called compression; when they are pulled apart, it is called rarefaction. The back and forth oscillation of pressure produces a sound waves.


This backs me up

No, that entirely proves your point false. Sound is what compresses and refracts the air. In order for the air to vibrate, sound waves must pass through them.

Sound is produced by a rapid variation in the average density or pressure of air molecules above and below the current atmospheric pressure. We perceive sound as these pressure fluctuations cause our eardrums to vibrate. When discussing sound, these usually minute changes in atmospheric pressure are referred to as sound pressure and the fluctuations in pressure as sound waves. Sound waves are produced by a vibrating body, be it an oboe reed, guitar string, loudspeaker cone or jet engine. The vibrating sound source causes a disturbance to the surrounding air molecules, causing them bounce off each other with a force proportional to the disturbance.

http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/acoustics/sound.htm

 

[sabrina]

[member="Barkt Melan"] read the article, it would have to be well timed to make it work. As the gap in the compressed air, to rarefaction of air. Is what takes the fireball out, as the is not enough air in between the waves to keep the fireball from burning.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Silara Vantai"] Yes but it does compress it, that is my point. As it would be hit by a large amount of oxygen, which would enhance the flame. Though as pointed out, the rarefaction part would starve it oxygen and snuff it out.

As it is a mixture of compressed and rarefactions of air