Dark Side Force Light

[Darth Vaildra]

Note: obviously not Canon.


So recently Tefka made an announcement about the Force being taken out of a box and being more mysterious and not limited to certain powers. This led me to develop and continue develop Shadow Shaping. A quick description. Much like element shapers (the four elements) shadow shaping is infusing the Force with the molecules void of light i.e. shadows and using darkness as a weapon. Obviously this is not based in science and ohysics, more in fantasy.

I was recently thinking about Force Light and wanting to develop a Dark side counter and then it hit me. What of there is a opposite about using the concept of the Dark Side and Shadow Shaping to create a blast filled with intense hate, darkness, and the Dark side itself that is is called Force Dark (name?) Just like Force Light can blast away the Dark side, weakening or even temporarily cutting off one's connection, Force Dark consumed a light spider and stuffs out the light and ether weakens or cuts off the user temporarily?

Thoughts? Please be constructive and kind, let's not make it an argument. It is only an idea so please be nice even if you think this is silly since I am being serious about thinking it is a good idea.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

The whole thing about Dark/Light is that the Dark attacks. Besides, this already exists in the form of Sith Poison, something which strips the Light from someone.
Every Dark ability which attacks does so because of its nature. The Light does not attack...except to attack the Dark directly.

I think this ying-yang balance is perfect. The Dark gets so many offensive options against everyone, whilst the Light has just one, and it only works against the Dark.

However, there's nothing stopping you attempting to use it within the bounds of the rules. Don't expect everyone to accept it though.

 

[Bolt]

[member="Lord Sebastian"]

*slowly raises hand*

Been using Umbrakinesis for two years on the site. Just so ya know its not as unthought of as before. Light is actually Zaidens specialty so he simply removes it, thus shadows/darkness. Also, I'd recommend making a few threads where in it you practice making air molecules compress together to form shapes.

Do this enough and you can make sure no one ever talks poodoo about making a new power as its just combining two to make one then.


Or keep working on making your own. Up to you. Just offered it up as advice.


Some day we should test darknesses. The specialist versus a protige. However it should be looked at lol.

In regards to Force Dark, its a bit of a stretch but it could possibly be done. I'd just recommend a DEEP thread or twenty entailing its creation. Ie, when making Umbrakinesis I quite seriously had Zaiden working on tk and light removal in every thread he was in. For no reason.

So just obnoxiously work on it is my advice.

 

[Ellie Mors]

It is called Waves of Darkness, it is already a canon ability.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Waves_of_darkness

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Lily Kirsche Kuhn"]

He means a quite literal counter to Force Light, not a ability that matches its power. Basically he wants a power that negates force light, and that is not what waves of darkness does...

Edit: Im going to say this now [member="Lord Sebastian"], good luck. Creating such a power will simply be a nice addition but you will instantly find that it will negate the only thing the Lightsiders have that can counter the mountains of darkside powers that the darksiders have. As such you will have a rather large target on your head IC for being a person whom created something that is a direct threat to the main hope if all else fails.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Urg, fringe Force powers.

 

[Bolt]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

Fringe Force Powers?

 

[Darth Vaildra]

Urg, fringe Force powers.

What are you drinking, I want some!

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Solan Charr"]


Valid point. Ideally if this was an ability that was in Shadow Shaping then it would be advanced which I would save for Lord level characters. Of course it is counterable and if the person is stronger in Force Light than the Force Dark then it is beaten.

[member="Razor Shot"]

I would very much like to test this when I am done developing through RP. Currently all I got is some kracken like tentacles that come out of of the shadows, shadows hounds (love these things) and I made a Grim Reaper for one post to scare someone...didn't work.

 

[Eun]

Do this enough and you can make sure no one ever talks poodoo about making a new power as its just combining two to make one then.

Sadly, polls are showing that umbrakinesis fans are down post-purple centaur.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Lord Sebastian"]

You realize Force Light, no matter the proficiency of its user, is meant to negate the darkside itself right... if you create a counter to it it would need the same effect in which case there would be no 'If A was stronger than B' deal. It would simply cancel eachother out... And if it does in the end work the way you want it to then it would negate Force light without a problem, just simply extremely exhaust the user. Force Light is the only offensive lightside power because it does not directly combat a person but the Darkside which is why your creating a counter of it wouldnt end in who was more proficient, it would simply negate it...

 

[Bolt]

Sadly, polls are showing that umbrakinesis fans are down post-purple centaur.

Huh. Which polls? The ones I have say the opposite! Purple Centaur douches ruined it! So nothing but rise now!

 

[Jsc]

When Luke and Krayt fought Aboleth beyond shadows the attacks they used against her were simply described as raw Force Energy. The very pressure and essence of their magical abilities. Aside from attaining "Oneness" and the "Dagger of Mortis" item, it is the strongest direct attack method I've ever been able to find in the EU.

You could probably use this type of attack against any Jedi ability. Though, it is pretty Dragonball Z. Lulz.

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Jay Scott Clark"]

But too OP for my taste. I incision, and yes this has to do with my play by, something like when Harry and voldamort clashed wand powers, but star wars style.

Maybe I have been watching too much anime though.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Lord Sebastian"]

Again, most likely end to it would be one big flash and then poof, cancelled out... Leaving both people extremely exhausted.

 

[Jsc]

[member="Lord Sebastian"]

Nah. You just need to find the right writing partners who are okay with spamming crazy powers all day. That's really the trick to it. You'd also be surprised how easily "Aligned" powers get nerfed when you face off against a writer who doesn't even believe there is a Light and a Dark side to the Force. Suddenly all his Gray abilities are just "Da Force" and can't be countered because: philosophy. ...Meh.

At the end of the day none of us know how this Space Magic stuff works. So go crazy and enjoy. If it doesn't get reported, nobody probably cares.

 

[Javar Ikon]

[member="Lord Sebastian"] [member="Razor Shot"]

One word: Darkshear.

All sorts of things involving Dark Auras and whatnot are out there. A Light-like force blast probably has like a million variations. Darkshear simply happens to be the one that is the most easy to legitimize.

 

[Bolt]

[member="Javar Ikon"]

Its not like Force Light in anyway. Other than it being a manifestation of a side of the Force. If Dark shear is like Force Light, then so to is Lightning or any number of others. He's speaking about a literal counter to Force Light. Ie, if struck, a Lightsider would find their connection to the Lightside weakened.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Javar Ikon"]
Its not like Force Light in anyway. Other than it being a manifestation of a side of the Force. If Dark shear is like Force Light, then so to is Lightning or any number of others. He's speaking about a literal counter to Force Light. Ie, if struck, a Lightsider would find their connection to the Lightside weakened.

Waves of Darkness was created and written as a counter (opposite) to force light. It strains the connection to the force for lightsiders, creates a sense of dread/hopelessness, and manifests as a swirling storm of palpable dark side energy. But if we're talking about a completely literal polar opposite that works the same but effecting the light side of the force you could do the exact same thing as force light but with the dark side.

Force light itself is almost always represented as a manifestation of the light side of the force that drives away the dark side like the sun against a shadow. To counter that you would need more dark side energy than that one person can handle, which would lead to multiple masters using force light and creating a wall of light, the most common method of removing a dark side nexus.

In theory you would need to be hugely powerful in the force to be able to counter force light and actively combat it, seeing as it stripped people like Ulic Qel-Droma of the force permanently in their prime. But replicating it through the perversion of the dark side to create a similar effect of waves of Darkness would be relatively simple. Both of my MCs have utilized waves of Darkness almost to the degree of making it a signature thing.

 

[Bolt]

[member="Braith"]

I know, as Zaiden is a practitioner of Waves himself. He combines with his Umnrakinetics, and makes what he calls his Shadow Arena.

However, if were talking the RP sense of things, Force Light is generally used by one person to create a weakness against another. Ie, Corvus used it against my alt Damien in a recent invasion to dull his power.

From my understanding, this is what Sebastion wants. To make a power that would meet and cancel out a Force Light projection. So it would need a Master to face a Master, Knight to Knight, so on and so blah lol.

But I agree. With the Force as is, I believe using the darkside to do such should be rather easy to do and explain. It would just need training to solidify in the Chaos universe.