Darth Veles
Sweet Avreet
What do you think about him? Anything you like/dislike? Do you have any questions concerning his character? Any opinions and critique welcome 
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Corvus Raaf
Adieu...
I'll post because you asked (that sounds like a negative start, so bear with me) - but you know me, I tell you this stuff all the time - the good and the bad (and not just for Avreet, right?). I don't need this feedback sheet to tell you what I like about RPing with you.
When I saw these, I thought about putting one up for a millisecond and then came up with the following formula (which I've shared with a couple of people now).
I ask for feedback:
1. You don't like me. I cry and try to ignore it, then leave the boards
2. You like me. I'm vindicated, hurrah! Then I wonder if you actually meant it. I cry and then leave the boards
So, enough of me. Honest feedback for the only Mon-Cal I've shared a hotel room with (and readers can make of that what they will):
1. You're knowledgeable
2. You're thorough in your posts
3. You draw me in to your way of thinking - I know who Avreet is and what he stands for
4. I'm less sure about your choice of gifts for loved ones
5. You post reliably and don't give up on threads (this means a lot to someone who has 30+ threads hanging)
6. You let me be my character and don't make it the Avreet show - yet you're still a strong character. That's a great one to pull off believe me
Your friend
Corvus
No gratuitous gif
When I saw these, I thought about putting one up for a millisecond and then came up with the following formula (which I've shared with a couple of people now).
I ask for feedback:
1. You don't like me. I cry and try to ignore it, then leave the boards
2. You like me. I'm vindicated, hurrah! Then I wonder if you actually meant it. I cry and then leave the boards
So, enough of me. Honest feedback for the only Mon-Cal I've shared a hotel room with (and readers can make of that what they will):
1. You're knowledgeable
2. You're thorough in your posts
3. You draw me in to your way of thinking - I know who Avreet is and what he stands for
4. I'm less sure about your choice of gifts for loved ones
5. You post reliably and don't give up on threads (this means a lot to someone who has 30+ threads hanging)
6. You let me be my character and don't make it the Avreet show - yet you're still a strong character. That's a great one to pull off believe me
Your friend
Corvus
No gratuitous gif
Kian Karr
Kel Dorable
[member="Dux Pontus"]
I agree with all of what [member="Corvus Raaf"] said. I remember our fight on Empress Teta was one of my first real PvP based fights on this site and it was a great experience for someone new to the game. You played your character while respecting my right to play my character in a way that is refreshing and story driven. In the end I can't tell you who won the fight, but I know we both walked away with a good story!
I agree with all of what [member="Corvus Raaf"] said. I remember our fight on Empress Teta was one of my first real PvP based fights on this site and it was a great experience for someone new to the game. You played your character while respecting my right to play my character in a way that is refreshing and story driven. In the end I can't tell you who won the fight, but I know we both walked away with a good story!
Darth Veles
Sweet Avreet
[member="Corvus Raaf"] [member="Kian Karr"]
Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for the feedback!
Darth Veles
Sweet Avreet
Bump!
Valiens Nantaris
Head Admin
[member="Darth Veles"]
I find the character concept interesting. Having said that, I am not a fan of ‘kindly Sith’ or ‘Light Sith’. I find it undermines the character’s credibility.
Whilst one can use the Dark Side in somewhat positive ways, I feel that Sith follow a certain code and belief system which makes them such and that if you take that away they’re not really Sith.
Personally, I feel he plays better to be as a Dark Jedi, but his Sith knowledge makes it hard to reconcile.
However, you’re a good writer, fair, descriptive and patient. You’ve create a great character, and I’m just finding your interpretation hard to follow. However, it is a very well written one, regardless of my bantering of semantics!
I find the character concept interesting. Having said that, I am not a fan of ‘kindly Sith’ or ‘Light Sith’. I find it undermines the character’s credibility.
Whilst one can use the Dark Side in somewhat positive ways, I feel that Sith follow a certain code and belief system which makes them such and that if you take that away they’re not really Sith.
Personally, I feel he plays better to be as a Dark Jedi, but his Sith knowledge makes it hard to reconcile.
However, you’re a good writer, fair, descriptive and patient. You’ve create a great character, and I’m just finding your interpretation hard to follow. However, it is a very well written one, regardless of my bantering of semantics!
Beowoof
Morality Policeman :)
So I like this guy for what I've seen of him--though maybe he spends a lot more time on the battlefield debating in comparison to fighting. But that is his character, as I understand. I just hope he doesn't do it in broad daylight is all!
I like how he seems to be a smart Sith by not killing people with no purpose. Generally, I consider senseless, erratically violent behavior to be psychopath/cultist behavior and not actually Sith of any code. So I do appreciate that aspect of Veles. However, I am rather confused as to how he can be a Sith and yet selfless, as your bio describes him. (The 'gentleman' part makes sense, though.) I would argue that he may be extremely loyal and generous to his friends, but the rest of the galaxy be damned.
Overall, though--nice character; nice writer.
I like how he seems to be a smart Sith by not killing people with no purpose. Generally, I consider senseless, erratically violent behavior to be psychopath/cultist behavior and not actually Sith of any code. So I do appreciate that aspect of Veles. However, I am rather confused as to how he can be a Sith and yet selfless, as your bio describes him. (The 'gentleman' part makes sense, though.) I would argue that he may be extremely loyal and generous to his friends, but the rest of the galaxy be damned.
Overall, though--nice character; nice writer.
Darth Veles
Sweet Avreet
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The Forgotten
[member="Darth Veles"]
I've always preferred the methodical Sith over the barbaric Sith, and Avreet is just that. Somehow I've never threaded with you, but I still love your character only by seeing it around the site, and hearing about him on skype. His 'Light Sith' aspect kind of reminds of the Scarlet Crusade from WoW, and although it's generally unheard of in the Star Wars universe, it's a welcome take on the Sith.
I rate 10/10.
We should thread sometime.
I've always preferred the methodical Sith over the barbaric Sith, and Avreet is just that. Somehow I've never threaded with you, but I still love your character only by seeing it around the site, and hearing about him on skype. His 'Light Sith' aspect kind of reminds of the Scarlet Crusade from WoW, and although it's generally unheard of in the Star Wars universe, it's a welcome take on the Sith.
I rate 10/10.
We should thread sometime.
Darth Veles
Sweet Avreet
I'll just bump this ancient thing since I'm active again :lol:
How's it called? Resurrection? Archeology? Necrophilia?
How's it called? Resurrection? Archeology? Necrophilia?
Dunames Lopez
Megalomaniac CEO of Star Tours
The idea I have of a Dark Jedi is mostly one of a Force-user using the dark side of the Force to maintain law and order, or other things Jedi usually used the Force to do. In that I can see it fitting that description.
It's different from a typical Sith, and I know so many Sith on these boards seem to have very similar personalities, regardless of subclass.
I know the writer once contemplated opening some fashion business (whether under that toon or not I know not) but gave up on it because the writer found that corporate threading the way I do it wasn't something the writer was good at. That and s/he found that, just like Star Tours, it seemed to be the kind of things that is OOCly not conducive to much of a Marketplace presence.
It's different from a typical Sith, and I know so many Sith on these boards seem to have very similar personalities, regardless of subclass.
I know the writer once contemplated opening some fashion business (whether under that toon or not I know not) but gave up on it because the writer found that corporate threading the way I do it wasn't something the writer was good at. That and s/he found that, just like Star Tours, it seemed to be the kind of things that is OOCly not conducive to much of a Marketplace presence.
Eternal Father
I've consulted the charts and
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Ugohr Poof
The Traveling Gungan Salesman
[member="Valiens Nantaris"] A "Light Side Sith" would be someone that uses the light side of the Force for malevolent uses...
Valiens Nantaris
Head Admin
[member="Ugohr Poof"]
Wow, blast from the past.
Now, Star Wars acts in a very odd way. It very specifically has a very Manichean dualism to it.
Thus, you can't use the Light Side for malicious purposes as said emotions are those used by the Dark Side. It is, quite literally, very black and white.
Wow, blast from the past.
Now, Star Wars acts in a very odd way. It very specifically has a very Manichean dualism to it.
Thus, you can't use the Light Side for malicious purposes as said emotions are those used by the Dark Side. It is, quite literally, very black and white.
Eternal Father
Like a D&D Paladin
[member="Valiens Nantaris"]
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Wolf
Well-Known Member
[member="Darth Veles"]
Pssh don't listen to these naysayers yapping on about "light Sith".
The only Dark Lord of the Sith we see in the movies is Palpatine, and his Empire was one of order and discipline, with an iron fist, and argued by Imperials to have worked for the greater good. So the idea of a Sith that strives for a 'greater good' is not alien to the Star Wars universe by any means. Even Vader, when he fell, wished to use the Dark Side to save Padme.
I see your character in a similar fashion to Palpatine's, if not a lot more eloquent and charming.
And yet, Veles is still ruthlessly ambitious and power-hungry, his belief in the Rule of Two resolute, and his desire to restore 'true' Sith rule.
In fact, I don't see much "light Sith" at all in your character. To me, the eloquence and charm looks more like a mask for the power-hungry man within.
Correct me if I'm wrong!
Pssh don't listen to these naysayers yapping on about "light Sith".
The only Dark Lord of the Sith we see in the movies is Palpatine, and his Empire was one of order and discipline, with an iron fist, and argued by Imperials to have worked for the greater good. So the idea of a Sith that strives for a 'greater good' is not alien to the Star Wars universe by any means. Even Vader, when he fell, wished to use the Dark Side to save Padme.
I see your character in a similar fashion to Palpatine's, if not a lot more eloquent and charming.
And yet, Veles is still ruthlessly ambitious and power-hungry, his belief in the Rule of Two resolute, and his desire to restore 'true' Sith rule.
In fact, I don't see much "light Sith" at all in your character. To me, the eloquence and charm looks more like a mask for the power-hungry man within.
Correct me if I'm wrong!
Ugohr Poof
The Traveling Gungan Salesman
[member="Wolf"] Perhaps the naysayers describing Darth Veles as a "Light Side Sith" don't mean what they think they mean.
I always thought the denomination (Jedi vs. Sith) to mean the usage the person made of the Force (benevolent vs. malevolent, respectively), hence why I described a Light Side Sith as someone using the light side of the Force as a means to do malevolent things. Most canon depictions of Light Side Sith the way I interpreted it, however, remain confined to pre-Ruusan lore.
I always thought the denomination (Jedi vs. Sith) to mean the usage the person made of the Force (benevolent vs. malevolent, respectively), hence why I described a Light Side Sith as someone using the light side of the Force as a means to do malevolent things. Most canon depictions of Light Side Sith the way I interpreted it, however, remain confined to pre-Ruusan lore.
Flannigan Mcnash
Mr. Roboto
[member="Darth Veles"], I'm not someone who has role-played with you, or interacted with you on any real level. But I've read your posts, I've read your bio whether that makes my opinion invalid, valid or an outsiders perspective. Your character walks a type rope between light and dark, and does it well. Avreet Zatarus, is a character that can justify his action as necessary but still has the ability to feel regret, where as true renegade Sith, doesn't have that luxury and can't explore the dark he's already there, there's nothing new for him without radically changing his character. Where as you have the ability to explore far more between the two and get the most choice out of it.
Now you as a writer, you do it well. I know that isn't saying anything too insightful but you do. If I had to sum up your character in three words.
Now you as a writer, you do it well. I know that isn't saying anything too insightful but you do. If I had to sum up your character in three words.
The Greater Good
Darth Ferus
Wanderer
I've known you for a while.
Really the only thing I have to say is that you go too far with how above [member="Darth Veles"] views himself. This isn't a problem with the character, as I love how important he views himself and the condescending attitude he displays in your posts. It's simply real.
But there's so much of it. I recently read a post where Veles just stood there and for three paragraphs thought to himself how important he was. While it fits the character, there's so much filler about how powerful / awesome / important he thinks of himself it gets stale to read.
This is just a personal opinion about reading your posts though. The character is great, and you play him true without compromising who he actually is.
Really the only thing I have to say is that you go too far with how above [member="Darth Veles"] views himself. This isn't a problem with the character, as I love how important he views himself and the condescending attitude he displays in your posts. It's simply real.
But there's so much of it. I recently read a post where Veles just stood there and for three paragraphs thought to himself how important he was. While it fits the character, there's so much filler about how powerful / awesome / important he thinks of himself it gets stale to read.
This is just a personal opinion about reading your posts though. The character is great, and you play him true without compromising who he actually is.