Hard-Light Generator

[Myra]

OUT OF CHARACTER INFORMATION

• Intent: To Create a possibly new and unique piece of technology to make the N.T.U. Stand out
• Image Source: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/20/cb/1d/20cb1dd7a1d03a39b30c25cbc98c4950.jpg
• Canon Link: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_bridge
• Restricted Missions: N/A
• Primary Source: N/A

PRODUCTION INFORMATION

• Manufacturer: New Techno Union
• Model: H-L Generator 01
• Affiliation: Closed-Market
• Modularity: No
• Production: Mass-Produced
• Material: Mechanical Parts

SPECIAL FEATURES

• A Hard-Light Generator generates.. well.. hard-light. This light is about as strong as durasteel and can be shaped using complex lights and lenses which sometimes are on the microscopic level.

Strengths:

• Being able to spawn a sturdy material for many purposes seemingly from thin air

Weaknesses:

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• Requires a large amount of energy

DESCRIPTION

Hard-Light generators are small microscopic wonders of engineering that generate light similarly to holographic display which is incredibly durable and solid. The generators, unless backed up by a power source capable of producing large amounts of power, simply generate a holographic display with some substance, which bends and distortes when pressure is put on it.

The Hard-Light generators are usually found as implants or within gloves, hooked by internal or external wires to a large battery hidden on the person of the user, usually in some centralized location easily concealed, and also linked to some sort of computer to determine the shape of the object to be displayed.

The Inspiration for the device was taken from Makeb Light Bridges which were much more crude and inefficient than these generators.


The hard-light generator comes in 5 sizes, each requiring much more power than the last.

Personal: Personal H-L Generators are small in size, and are usually in implants or gloves as talked about before. They're only capable of producing objects with mass that can be considered hand-held (think skyrim war-hammer at MAX) or flat surfaces that are 2 meters by 2 meters. The power needed for this is roughly the same as a (WIP)

 

[Netherworld]

Hello, I'll be the factory judge reviewing your submission. If you have questions, please feel free to respond to this thread once we are underway.

 

[Netherworld]

[member="Dresden M'koor"]

Couple of issues here before I can stamp it.

Image Source: https://www.pinteres...18020665796503/

• This link is broken. The image you're using is broken as well.
• Either remove it or find a new one. Link the website where you found it under the Image Source.

Manufacturer: New Techno Union

• Your company produces Armor, Weapons, and Droids. This qualifies as none of those things.
• Please find and link another manufacturer.

Requires a large amount of energy

• I need you to be more specific here. What do you understand under "large amount of energy"?
• If it needs a lot of energy, then it requires big power sources. Please add this.

The Hard-Light generators are usually found as implants or within gloves, hooked by internal or external wires to a large battery hidden on the person of the user, usually in some centralized location easily concealed, and also linked to some sort of computer to determine the shape of the object to be displayed.

• In conjunction with my previous point – a "large battery" wouldn't provide enough power to generate light solid enough to be compared to durasteel.
• Give me a solid explanation of how you imagine this works, or usage in personal armor will have to go.

However, the generators have been known to be used as gel, but due to the nature of this method, the generators must be pre-programmed before being applied to determine a shape, and are much easier to destroy as they can simply be washed off, and the electrical current in order to charge the generators may prove fatal to the wearer if not implemented correctly.

• I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. How can a generator be used as a gel? Then washed off?
• Clarify this part, as I currently have no idea what it refers to, nor how it works.

The Hard-Light generated from the generators is also rather lightsaber resistant, although with prolonged exposure the lightsaber wins, cutting through the sturdy bonds of light particles

• Lightsaber-resistant things won't be approved with mass-production, ever. This should also have been listed under Strengths, not hidden in the description.
• Additionally, if this light is comparable to durasteel in strength, it most definitely wouldn't be lightsaber resistant.
• Clarify how exactly this can be lightsaber resistant, or it's going to have to be removed.

@mention me with edits or questions.

 

[Myra]

@Netherworld

OKAY! Lots of explaining to do, I expected as much, so it's no problem ^_^

• Took out the image, it as too specific and I couldn't find a replacement

• As for manufactoring, this device isn't going outside of their respected fields. New company's today often invent something seemingly outside their influence for profit, such as NASA developing the tiny cameras in our I-Phones, but turned out to be important to their product later on. The N.T.U. and this device are no different, they're an arms manufactoror, thus they want to stay ahead of the game when it comes to weapons and armor. To invent a device that can spawn a durable material at the cost of a 'large amount of energy' (which I will further explain in a second) could be incredibly beneficial to armor and droid manufactoring, and the hardlight itself could be used to create crude weapons such as swords or war-hammers.

• As for the large amount of energy, I was unsure of how exactly to measure the power needed to run such a device. Is there a star-wars power measurement system? But a rough estimate using our modern system, to run a decent amount of the generators in order to actually create something useful in size, say.. 4 feet by 4 feet of hard-light, would take an entire teravolt, or 1,000,000,000,000 volts. That may seeem like an incredible amount, because it is, but in the futuristic days of starwars where they have generators running entire planets, it's not too far fetched to propose they have power-generators of some kind capable of producing that much energy with ease, and batteries that can store several hundred tera-volts. I mean, we have dyson spheres (Or at least prototypes of them, seen here) and those are incredibly difficult to build and would produce so much energy we'd have to invent new ways of describing it.

• And in conjunction with MY last point, it is plausible that a futuristing battery could. Although, not for very long if it was only big enough to be carried on one's person, maybe.. 5-6 hours at most before it needs recharging? unless it constantly is being recharged through solar panels or wind energy, or a tiny nucleur reactor, or a tiny hedron colider (which I think is going a bit far, but still)

• As for the gel, you're right, it's a bit far-fetched and I only added it because it was a small part of the picture I was using. I'll remove it.

• I'm still relatively new to the materials within starwars and how they operate so I apologize for not knowing about durasteel durability and the mass produced thing. Is there a better alternative for it to be light-saber resistent? I'll edit it to only be limited in production as well.

Thank you for taking the time to read this! I hope you don't take my response to be disrespectful as I don't mean to argue against you, simply clarify my line of thinking in an attempt to make things clearer and more acceptable.

 

[Netherworld]

[member="Dresden M'koor"]

This link should work for the image.

I understand your logic, but on Chaos we have a slightly more compartmentalized system, so that growing your company in Tier allows for the benefit of new Operations. Currently, the New Techno Union is incapable of manufacturing this, as it doesn't fall under any of its listed Operations. However, you have options:

• You can use any canon SW company that manufactures technology and isn't claimed. (List of claimed companies – if you get permission from a claimed canon company, you can use that too.)
• You can also use any company from this list that has 'Technology' under its operations.
• Lastly, you can also do an Expansion thread for NTU, submit it together with a Tier upgrade template, wait for the modification approval, and then submit this with NTU.

There's no need for hard numbers. I was referring more to the size of the power cell / source that would power this. Obviously specialized, extra-powerful power sources could be used, which could be in turn made more compact to make the Hard-light tech more transportable... but that'd probably require a submission of its own. Right now, I'd like you to give me a ballpark estimate of a power source that would provide enough power to generate solid, tangible light.

• Is it as big as the cells that power turbolasers?
• Or, taken to the other extreme, something as power-hungry as a planetary shield?
• Give me something on that scale, and we'll be good.

• Please remove it, then. As of my current reading of the submission, it's still included in the description.

• That's fine, nothing to apologize for. We're here to help you get this balanced and approved. I'm fine with keeping it durasteel-comparable, but I'm unsure how it could be made to be lightsaber-resistant.
• I'd be willing to allow minor resistance with production dropped to Limited – minor as in glancing blows. Think something like armorweave in terms of resistance.

It's fine. Clarification is always welcome.

 

[Myra]

[member="Netherworld"]

So, the whole plan of this was to have the N.T.U make it, but as the rules dictate otherwise, I'm more than happy to wait ^_^. Is there anyway we could put this into some form of storage?

As for the power needed to run it, I have a suggestion. I suggest, the Hard-Light Generators come in 5 sizes, and each is less common, more expensive, and more energy consuming than the one previous, so like..

Personal Generators would be mass produced, and wouldn't be able to produce objects of any massive size, basically one to two handed weapons and shields. It's power consumption would be rather small (About the size of a baseball) and probably require another factory submission which I'll do in the future.

While on the other end of the spectrum is the Giga-Generator which creates truely massive objects like planetary sheilds, and it requires several power-generating factories (nucleur power generators for example) to keep it running for any prolongued period of time, and is itself quite large (think 3 story building). The Giga-Generator would be semi-unique.

I'm asking because I'm unsure if having several variations (varying in size and power) is permitted.

 

[Netherworld]

[member="Dresden M'koor"]

Nothing wrong with having scalable tech in principle, but there's no guarantees that scaled up tech is going to get approved.
Some things are only balanced in certain sizes / scales.

Again, the power consumption is not so much an issue of the size of the objects – right now, at least – but moreso the 'quality' of the light generated. I maintain that generating light that is comparable to durasteel in strength would require massive amounts of power, and therefore big power sources.

At any rate, that's a matter for when you've expanded NTU's operations and this can be judged completely.

I'll archive your submission, and you can get it pulled out when NTU's capable of making this.
Just PM Cira, Raziel, or Jamie Pyne at that point, and the Factory will get back on this.

 

[Netherworld]

Moved to Factory Archives - If you want to remove from the archives, please feel free to tag Raziel, Jamie, or Cira.