Approved Tech JSA-MAG5

[Jak Sandrow]

OUT OF CHARACTER INFORMATION

• Intent: To create an extremely high-powered slugthrower.
• Image Source: Me - Find more images here!
• Canon Link: N/A
• Restricted Missions: N/A
• Primary Sources: Real-life Taurus Judge, S&W Model 500, Chiappa Rhino

PRODUCTION INFORMATION

• Manufacturer: Jak Sandrow
• Model: MAG5 revolving slugthrower
• Affiliation: Jak Sandrow
• Modularity:
• Can be fitted with different length barrels, as shown:
• 5 cm flash suppressor barrel
• 8 cm rifled picatinny barrel
• Can be loaded with different ammo types, as shown
• Production: Unique (with enough spare parts to make 3 more)
• Material: Durasteel, explosives, gunpowder, copper, lead

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

• Classification: Slugthrower
• Size: Handheld
• Length:
• 200 mm (no barrel)
• 250 mm (5 cm barrel)
• 280 mm (8 cm barrel)
• Weight (unloaded):
• 0.825 kg (no barrel)
• 1.125 kg (5 cm barrel)
• 1.305 kg (8 cm barrel)
• Ammunition Type: Slugs, shot shells, magnum
• Ammunition Capacity: 5
• Effective Range (no barrel, 5 cm, 8 cm):
• Slug (60 m, 65 m, 80 m)
• Magnum (60 m, 60 m, 70 m)
• Shot (15 m, 30 m, 40 m)
• Rate of Fire: Semi-Automatic - 1 shot every 2 seconds

SPECIAL FEATURES

• Iron sight
• Picatinny rail on 8 cm barrel
• Custom rounds

DESCRIPTION
The JSA-MAG5 is an improvement on, but not a salvaging of, Jak's previous revolver design. Firing bigger, deadlier rounds, the MAG5 is intended to be potentially even more lethal than the previous design.

Custom-machined, every part of the gun was tested and retested for durability vs weight, with a frame designed to be sturdy and reliable. Consequently, the gun had to be shaped in order to be loaded manually, rounds loaded individually. A safety was added as well, to ensure the powerful rounds do not go off by accident.

Shells:
Jak custom-makes his own ammunition, as it allows him to reliably hit his targets, and he has done the same here. Each round is 12.7 mm in diameter, and each round type is specifically designed for a particular purpose.

• .500 shot - 38 g projectile (combined mass)

The shotgun shell is rated for nerf killing, and in the package of this revolver it is a perfectly capable defensive round. This shell has the lowest recoil out of the different shell types.

• .500 APIHE - 46 g projectile

The slug shell is a composite shell, made of armor-piercing elements, a high-explosive compound, and an incendiary compound. This shell is based off of the pre-existing round that Jak had already designed and made for his previous revolver, with some minor cosmetic and performance changes.

• .500 slug - 60 g projectile

This is a standard, fully iron slug (with copper plating) used for a non-explosive, high energy output. It has nothing special about it, other than the fact that the bullet is so heavy. It would put a small dent in armor, but it would not penetrate, though the force may knock someone back a step, if not outright sit them on their rear.

Strengths:

• Hard-hitting - All shells provide an extremely powerful output, and can be invariably lethal within their effective ranges.
• Versatile - All shells are interchangeable, and different types of shells can be loaded at any given time.

Weaknesses:

• Hand cannon - This thing is a monster, and has immense recoil. One must have superhuman strength to wield it without breaking their wrist. As a result, the rate of fire drops significantly as well.
• Slow loader - In order to keep it from breaking under its own action, Jak had to mount the cylinder permanently into the revolver. Doing so, he had to shape the revolver such that it can be reloaded one shell at a time. This makes the reload speed laughable in a major firefight, and impractical at best in a drawn-out duel.

 

[The Major]

Hello, I'll be the factory judge reviewing your submission. If you have questions, please feel free to respond to this thread once we are underway.

 

[The Major]

[member="Jak Sandrow"]

What a cool looking revolver!

However, a HESH round would not work in the way you imagine for a pistol. HESH rounds require rifling in order to maintain any semblance of accuracy, for one. An 8cm barrel would hardly cover enough -which is exactly why this kind of ammo saw use as tank shells 100mm and above. The theory requires a fat, shaped charge that would increase the surface area of the damaging jet delivered at high speeds. This type of pistol round would hardly provide enough surface area to make the HESH effect really shine. I would even argue that such a configuration would do less damage than a high grain bullet.

Note also that HESH roundswere effectively outdated by the end of the cold war because modern composites of layered metal and heat resistant materials drastically reduced the use of these rounds. As for spalling: lining the interior of, say, a craft with kevlar mitigated most of the effects of spalling. Consider that. A material made in 1965 defeated most of the danger offered by a HESH round. I just don't see how something like Beskar or even durasteel would even be dented by something like this, never mind having your envisioned affect.

When it comes down to it, pistols are garbage for armor penetration. Certain types of copper or "hard" core pistol rounds could offer some level of penetration for protective vests and plates.

Now if you want to make a 2 meter anti-tank and fat rifle, really more of a bazooka type thing, that uses the HESH style round, I can see how that would be useful against certain armor types.


In addition, please change your wording on: All shells provide an extremely powerful output, invariably lethal within their effective ranges. To: All shells provide an extremely powerful output, that can be invariably lethal within their effective ranges.

Hope this helps,

Maj

 

[Jak Sandrow]

Thank you!

May I counter - a lot of armor in the Star Wars universe appears to be simply durasteel or plasteel. Of course with the fact that it's a revolver round, it does not have a lot of explosive power, so it's not going to penetrate at all.

This is what 100g of similar explosives look like. Half of that will obviously have 1/3 the explosive power, so I'm completely willing to significantly dial down the power output, though I still believe it will have most of the desired affect.

But I have changed:

• Hard-hitting - All shells provide an extremely powerful output, invariably lethal within their effective ranges.

to

• Hard-hitting - All shells provide an extremely powerful output, and can be invariably lethal within their effective ranges.

[member="The Major"]

 

[The Major]

[member="Jak Sandrow"]

Incidentally, bullet physics do not just simply scale down neatly by size. These things are magnified or reduced exponentially. So is their effectiveness. I think your .500 APIHE - 46 g projectile will give all the penetrating power you're going to get out of a pistol cartridge anyway. Not only is the HESH redundant, it's also not going to work. I can see why you want it: something portable that can defeat someone in heavy armor. It's definitely cool in concept.

However, I can't accept it. Please remove the HESH ammo type to get this submission to a status that I can ping for final review. Naturally, I would like to help you as much as possible with this, and I think you really want three ammo types. How about dragon's breath style rounds? Or an ion charged thing for use against droids or machines? We can go through a lot of ideas and see what's feasible.

Thank you for your patience.

 

[Jak Sandrow]

[member="The Major"]

No, that is fair reasoning. I'll simply make it a heavy iron slug, no special properties. If I want a new bullet, I'll use a new submission.

And thank you for your patience as well!

Changed

• .500 HESH-X - 48 g projectile

The high-explosive round is new to Jak's armory - based on a type of artillery shell, the HESH round propels a small charge of high-explosive compound, which impacts on a surface and spreads out into a crudely shaped charge. The charge is then detonated a second later, by a built-in impact detecting fuse. The round is not armor-piercing - the charge creates a shockwave that transmits through the armor, creating a spalling effect on the other side. However, due to the small size of the explosive, the effective thickness of the armor must be smaller than 50 mm. Alternatively, the round can be used to crack open doors or safe locks, though that might be overkill.

to

• .500 slug - 60 g projectile

This is a standard, fully iron slug (with copper plating) used for a non-explosive, high energy output. It has nothing special about it, other than the fact that the bullet is so heavy. It would put a small dent in armor, but it would not penetrate, though the force may knock someone back a step, if not outright sit them on their rear.

 

[The Major]

Looking good. Looking good. Also, make sure that since you are saying this is a unique weapon that only one is in use at all times (considering you have enough to make three with those spare parts). Other than that we should be good to go.

[member="Jak Sandrow"]

Awesome. Pending Factory Mentor Review.

[member="Jamie Pyne"] [member="Raziel"]

 

[Cira]

<p>Approved.</p>