Lola Sayu is overflowing with prisoners

[Jessica Med-Beq]

The problems with Malachor V began when the Wheel hex became SSC property. With the Kessel hex being ours by now, one may be wondering whether additional prison space would have to be planetside or spaceside. With a sudden inflow of prisoners from these hexes, the prison wardens of Malachor V filed complaints about lack of prison space, and yet the residents of Malachor V also complain about the security risks posed by additional prisoners on the planet. Two solutions:

• Build additional prison facilities on other planets
• Build a dedicated, SD-sized prison ship

If we elect to go with the spaceside, it might be best to wait for the outcome of Jabiim (or whatever the SSC's next dominion is): in the aftermath of the Kuat raid, we found what Ringovinda StarYards actually looked for in the raid, the schematics of a prison ship used in canon, can be found on Jabiim, and in canon, it could carry 100,000+ prisoners. (That are, actually, the IC implications of stopping the Kuat raid due to OOCly problems)

 

[Matsu Ike]

Who wha.... Who is flooding our secret prison?

[member="Coci Heavenshield"] [member="Connor Harrison"] as the shadows who would have been in charge of the Temple at the time. I am going to give you a stern look for sending J-Walkers into it.

*Gives stern look*

Now go to your rooms and think about what you have done.

And don't even think about sneaking any of those cookie's

On a serious note though in regards to this... few people know about the temple let alone would send enough to overflow it. Jedi prisons like the Prism, The Spirit and Jailhouse 41 are only for the worst of the worst. Ones that need to be contained as the jedi do not execute prisoners but they cannot just hold them in a normal place. If the galaxy was full with that many then it would be a really really dangerous place since Sanctum space is not that large in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

I got no idea what this is about sorry..

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

But even non-Jedi prisons were built on Malachor V in addition to Jailhouse 41... these non-Jedi prisons were the ones from whom complaints emerged. Lola Sayu doesn't want anything to do with the extra prisoners from the Wheel and Kessel hexes either.

The question being: how many hexes' worth of prisoners would 100k prisoners represent, in relation to the Wheel and Kessel hexes?

 

[Nima Tann]

I don't think it's logical to put prisoners into a prison in a planet which you don't control, as Malachor V doesn't look like in SSC territory. So the prison would lose its functionality.

And since when a dead planet has residents anyway, other than some dark cultists and monsters?

 

[Matsu Ike]

[member="Nima Tann"] well Alderaan is a dead planet made of cosmic dust. so Malachor and it were restored by the time line but the rest of that yeah you are right it wouldn't be used because we don't control it. There was also no other prisons constructed because if we need a prison for people we can send them to places like the Pit which is neutral groud and accepts prisoners from all over the galaxy. Jailhouse 41 is made like the Prism and Spirit only we couldn't suspend it over the blackhole on the edge of the galaxy.

As for how many prisoners we took from the wheel and kessel hex... ah I don't recall prisoners being taken.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

I was not aware we have such an abundance of prisoners. Besides, each world keeps its own government and thus its own prison system.

If we're talking dangerous, powerful Force-users then I'm sure we've enough room to keep them locked up.

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

Some of these governments (in these hexes) would love nothing better than a chance to outsource prisoners off-world.

But really Lola Sayu, more than even Malachor V, is the prime destination for those planetary governments in SSC space that seek to outsource prisoners. Their problems began with the Wheel hex, further compounded by the Kessel hex.

 

[Elpsis Kerrigan]

Speaking for the Tygaran Alliance, I can confirm that our prisons are not overflowing. We have great success at suppressing crime thanks to the Truthseekers' Zero Tolerance Policy. The Temple of Ardarvia is good at reeducating criminal individuals and showing them the error of their ways.

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

Tygara is a pre-Wheel planet, and the problems only arose when the Wheel hex became SSC property. How the Wheel and Kessel hexes have caused Lola Sayu's prison problems, by hex:

The Wheel hex:

• The Wheel is home to large-scale debauchery
• Centares' prisons are overflowing (but they had very little prison capacity to begin with)

Kessel hex:

• Kessel is home to many, many spice smugglers and illegal spice operations
• Kessel has other major crime problems

 

[Kurayami Bloodborn]

Still not seeing any issue here. IC Kurayami would incapacitate or kill an enemy unless the mission demanded capture, as he is not known for mercy. Though a Force User he doesn't hold to any one code. He isn't bound by the Jedi code and its idea of morality, any who try to kill or injure him or his allies are dealt with. You don't send officers in when he leaves the combat zone, you send in a cleaning crew. Not to mention I see very few if any times that the SSC has taken prisoners ICly. If you want to do a story for dev purposes of a prison ship, go on, but thing is our prisons are not full or anywhere near it from everything I have seen thusfar. The admin team is free to tell me otherwise, but I feel that they are also confused as to the sudden influx of inmates.

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

POWs are but a small fraction of the SSC's prisoner count, if any: most of the inmates are about all the regular crimes that get committed in the background all the time, at peace or at war.

Perhaps that was just some tongue-in-cheek joke cracked in the wake of the Kessel hex dominion. Just that there would be no point in devving a prison ship if there wasn't some faction willing to purchase one. Ringo Vinda being in SSC territory by virtue of being in the Wheel's hex, along the Perlemian Trade Route, this is the reason why I joined the SSC in the first place, although it is not my primary faction.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

I was not aware we have such an abundance of prisoners. Besides, each world keeps its own government and thus its own prison system.

If we're talking dangerous, powerful Force-users then I'm sure we've enough room to keep them locked up.

[member="Charzon Loulan"]

Thurion pretty much explained the situation regarding criminal activity on planets in SSC space. The local governments would handled this.

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

[member="Coci Heavenshield"] Roger... the SSC just wasn't the place to ask to dev a prison ship for. That, even if the builder was in SSC space.

 

[Audren Sykes]

Edit: Redacted, unnecessary and unbecoming of me. Apologies.

 

[Jessica Med-Beq]

That was, simply put, a ridiculously shoddy way to introduce the topic...

Plus I believe the canon prison ship is ~2000m long. That would amount to building to Star Destroyer limits.

The decision, on my side, is that the prison ship project is suspended indefinitely as far as Ringovinda StarYards is concerned.

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member="Matsu Ike"] Don't look at me - I've no idea what this is!

But I agree with everything said...so there's no need for me to be here now so....I'll head out... cheers!