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Major Factions Going Minor and Immediately Rebelling.

The Rebellion of Mimban brought up some good points I'm going to have Staff cover over the next couple of weeks, but I wanted to get out in front of this in my usual shotgun-the-wall-and-see-what-I-hit approach

1. Black Tie Syndicate got a Notification of Recall from Staff for being inactive. They decided to merge with the Mandalorian Empire and rebel as a "minor subfaction."

2. The leader of the Mandalorian Empire was informed there's no such thing as "minor subfactions", subfactions are all considered just part of a Major Faction, thus making it an illegitimate move.

3. I informed them if they wanted to rebel, I would allow it, but they'd have to cancel the merger and rebel as a Minor Faction. They can merge afterwards just fine.

4. The biggest talking point of the ability to rebel after immediately going Minor would be that there would need to be a time delay. I instructed them Sunday night, EST, was satisfactory. I leave it up to the factions to work that out if they want to.

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My biggest problem is a Major Faction sees a recall notice, knows what's going to happen, then utilizes the situation to their advantage by immediately going minor and rebelling for another Major Faction's gain. This is, in concept, okay with me. However, there needs to be a time delay to prevent them from shotgunning it. No Major Faction can just immediately drop itself to minor then rebel, so we're going to discuss with Staff about pushing some sort of time delay in this equation. It'd likely be just a mere 7 days, but it's enough of a buffer to prevent a Major Faction from hopping around the map constantly rebelling.

My second problem was obviously utilizing a subfaction as a minor faction. Staff will discuss defining verbage in our rules to mark this as illegal. No subfaction of a Major Faction may declare a rebellion, because they're not a minor faction at that point. They're part of a Major Faction. A subfaction =/= A Minor Faction.

Thirdly, mergers are getting more symbolic and less strategic, so I'm going to sit down with the Factory Admin sometime soon and discuss if we can devise an alternative method for transitioning a faction's resources to another faction/party/company.

Nothing's set in stone, I just wanted all parties involved in this attempted Rebellion to understand why it is being delayed.


TL;DR: Dredge's faction was sinking so Isley picked it up and threw it at the Republic. The site Administrators caught it and are currently playing hot potato.
 

Dezoti

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Well, there goes the Sith Assassins.

Not that they've been very active to begin with.
 

Caius Flavian

Faction Admin - The Galactic Republic
[member="Tefka"]


Quick question though.

Does it matter whether or not they are sub-faction or minor faction?

Per here it the moment a minor declares a rebellion everyone and their mother can jump in so does it actually really matter to enforce sub factions and minor factions?

They are seemingly one in the same with the way the wording works.
Also when that happens it almost seems like If I were a loophole exploiter does it even matter that minor factions have limitations on their ship sizes and number of ships?

Say a crime organization who is a minor faction initiates a rebellion.
The limitations on minors is that they cannot utilize a vessel larger than 1000meters and have to have a PC for each ship count.
But then the moment a minor rebels a major faction can just show up with 80 kilometers worth of ships.

So what is point even stating that when the other reasoning is that a Minor faction who is a sub faction would have initiated a rebellion it still is the exact same circumstance?
 
[member="Caius Flavian"]

It matters because Isley/Blonde would've had to find another Minor Faction to declare the Rebellion. It'll matter even more after we institute the time delay. We're going to discuss where this delay would most be beneficial.

But I want to make it extremely clear Staff's going to make sure subfactions will never again be considered Minor Factions.
 
[member="Krest"]

While I ran the SA as something more akin to a Sub-Faction, [member="Darth Lykos"] has decided to maintain the SA's independence as a Minor Faction with loyalties to the OS. This was discussed and decided right after he was voted in as FO. As such, the Sith Assassins ought to be free to do Rebellions.
 
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Ugohr Poof

The Traveling Gungan Salesman
There should also changes to the "30-minute window" rule to complete simultaneous Dominions: only Major factions can initiate Dominions, but only Minor factions can initiate Rebellions. Then Invasions would be necessary to resolve simultaneous Dominions, rather than Rebellions.
 

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