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mercenary companies

[member="Elaine Thul"]

Knowing nothing about the company and assuming I remember the Chaos definition of a tier 2 company I would say maybe squad more realistically a fire team.
 

Léon

The King's Buccaneer
A Tier One is defined as a ma and pop shop, the local fish & chip, if you get my meaning. A very tiny storefront and operation. The Tier system describes that each tier is exponentially larger than the previous. As Tier Two allows for two (three?) locations and operations, I assume that a mercenary company would have either a few hundred of even a thousand.

I think of it like this, if our modern armies in a divided world have such immense numbers, what would a united planet? let alone a united galactic empire? A galactic empire would number in the billions of soldiers, trillions perhaps, so a mercenary company with a few thousand would still be quite tiny and insignificant comparative to major factions.

I'd imagine Tier One would be a platoon in size (15 to 30), Tier Two perhaps a battalion (300-800). This is just my imagination and not what the factory dictates. So... eh

[member="Elaine Thul"]
 
Grand Admiral, First Order Central Command
My Tier 2 Company (Shadowline) has approximately 4000-6000 rather veteran troops, though it basically never deploys them in one spot.

Given that Tier 2's can make frigates and cruisers without much trouble I'd imagine several thousand. More or less depending on their quality and whatever sort of background you write for the company.
 
There is a real neat way to figure this out. A Tier 2 company can have a combat ship of 1000 meter length times Tier Level (2) divided by 3. So thats 666.666666666666666666666666 meters of ship. And the Max meter of fleet is 2000.

So what I personally would do, is work with those parameters and come up with a fleet and how many people they can transport is how many troops you have (Which is hard as there isn't a direct transport capacity on the ship template anymore)

Otherwise I think [member="Cyrus Tregessar"]'s numbers may be too high. In real life the largest PMCs in the world can't field that many "soldiers" the largest claiming a battalion. Private Operators cost a lot of money. Now its star wars. Its an entire galaxy so numbers would be larger. But for a PMC at Tier 2 I wouldn't imagine 4-6 thousand veteran troops. I would challenge that number.

Now if you're talking more than just "soldiers" then the number goes way higher. Most PMCs are "security" companies. The largest of which can have thousands of employees. But most of these employees are either support or like security guards. One of the Largest PMCs in the world their primary business is as private prison guards.
 
So we talking a regiment to an brigade, for foreign missions
Also possibly a lot more for basic guard duties.

[member="Damian Starchaser"] [member="Cyrus Tregessar"] [member="Léon"] [member="Vengeance"]
 
Elaine Thul said:
So we talking a regiment to an brigade, for foreign missions
Also possibly a lot more for basic guard duties.

[member="Damian Starchaser"] [member="Cyrus Tregessar"] [member="Léon"] [member="Vengeance"]
So it depends on what you mean by regiment and brigade. Those terms depending on where and WHEN you go mean very different things to different people. For instance, a brigade in WWII Great Britain was basically equal to a regiment in the US. (actually it is a lot more complicated than that... but for the purposes of our discussion sure.) And things are way more complicated now.
 
Grand Admiral, First Order Central Command
Unfortunately there's not a lot to go off reliably with canon. The Empire has a 400m Frigate with a crew of 20,000. You're talking 100,000 personnel there as feasible, which I would agree is somewhat outlandish. Transport capacity is somewhat smaller, but if you imagine that training a competent spacer technician is any less arduous or expensive than training a soldier, well, that's a different discussion.

My main guideline has been that I recall it being mentioned (though I can't rightly remember where) that a Tier 2 Company can be generally assumed to be self-sufficient and stable, albeit potentially niche and otherwise not having a lot of impact on a galactic scale. To that end, I think a modern brigade-sized force is pretty reasonable, given that several thousand troops is practically a raindrop in the ocean compared to the armed might of even the smallest major faction (and larger minor factions) but is enough to support itself in, say, a minor conflict between to local planetary warlords (who can be assumed to field roughly nation-sized armies).

It's also worth noting that Shadowline only fields the aforementioned veteran troops (and necessary noncombatant support crew) and doesn't have an equivalent or larger force of 'grunts' to back them up. In a situation like that, where you have a large-scale PMC which does multiple operations (like garrisons, security, and combat operations) then I would agree that a full brigade of veterans is a bit much, but I'm also talking a company with total personnel under arms of around 10,000 or more.

Bear in mind that a Tier 5 company was just recently able to engage the navy of a major faction and walk away victorious. There's the human element to be factored in there as well but I think it gives a nice sense of scale.

My two cents, I suppose. Obviously the proper way to handle things would be to make the sub and hash it out with the Factory Judge.
 

Hira Mitsae

Ain't No Rest For The Wicked
Let's not bring silly things like 'realism' and 'logic' into this. We are literally writing in a fictional universe with space monks waving plasma sticks and empires utilizing huge artificial moons to destroy planets.

The Ailon Nova Guard was one of the more successful and big mercenary outfits in canon. They had close to a billion soldiers to their name and I would probably consider them the Chaos equivalent of a T5/T6.

So you can extrapolate 'reasonable' numbers from that count... but does it really matter? Do what makes ya feel good and happy, just have fun with it and don't spawn a billion troops on someone's head all at once.

Creativity is your only limit.
 

Gilamar Skirata

The most important step is always the next one
[member="Elaine Thul"]

From a person who recently started running a PMC on here, as long as you don't spam PvP fights with dozens of soldiers you're fine. I would say like others have suggested, figure out IF you are using combat ships to transport troops etc. Figure out how many people it takes to actually run those ships, their passenger capacity and take that PMC Rekali posted and kinda expand or reduce how many people you THINK you have employed based on gut feeling and those numbers. Remember, it takes more than mercs to run a PMC ;)
 
Braith Achlys said:
Realistically? A mercenary group is normally limited in relation to how well they are trained. I would think 300 is realistic. I'd stretch further depending on circumstances.

Elaine Thul said:
[member="Elijah Rekali"] I just want to make sure I can't accidently God mod when I figure it out. :)

Unless you are going to transfer the entire focus of your company into a pure mercenary company I have to agree with Braith's 300 figure for chaos. Sure we are in a fictional universe but going from a shipbuilder for example one day to deploying 5,000 mercenaries soldiers the next............ That is one of those things where i would call BS.

Now if you wanted to scale it and say 300 today but 3,000 a couple months down the road in terms of deployment then yeah I say go for it.
 

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