Peace - Let's Negotiate [OS/GR] [OOC]

[Darth Ayra]

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One of the more interesting and thought provoking moments from the EU Canon universe, for me, was the Treaty of Coruscant. It's one of the things that I learned when I first begun writing fanon in the SW universe and it's stuck with me. I've roleplayed on both sides, Jedi and Sith, on other websites where I have been the one proposing and the one accepting treaties that has resulted in the end of hostilities between Jedi and Sith factions. At the time I was portraying a Sith character ([member="Darth Vazela"] actually), so obviously I was working towards an angle that suited my characters agenda. But I know that it is possible for something similar to the Treaty of Coruscant being agreed and adhered too, even in fanon communities.

At the end of last year, I tried to set up a meeting IC between my character and the OS / Sith leadership, in an effort to negotiate a peace. It was just after the Battle of Contruum- a battle that the Jedi / Galactic Republic lost- and I knew that the faction, as well as the galaxy, was in dire circumstances after that loss. It wasn't only just a map changer, but I'd say it was the catalyst to Genieve's coup d'etat attempt, which is probably one of the biggest "kark it, let's go nuts" moments I've ever seen.

I'll take this moment to thank the OS staff / faction team. You guys didn't have to agree to the armistice that happened after December. You acknowledged that the Republic needed a break OOC and that was very gracious of you. I can't say that I'd have done the same in your position. You was winning- you still are winning- and even though the Republic is about to go to war with you guys again, when podo hits the fan at Togoria, it was nice of you to give everyone a break. I don't believe the Republic has given you the kudos for it. I'm sure our staff said thanks etc. But on behalf of everyone, cheers for the break. I'll get back to why I'm starting this thread.

My attempt to set up a meeting to discuss peace between the Republic and OS culminated in a good old fashioned duel of fates verse [member="Darth Vornskr"]. I was soundly beaten. Ella spent three OOC months locked up in the Black Pyramid, and when it became clear that things weren't going to progress, I moved Ella out of there, did some recovery roleplay on Yutan and here I am ready to defend Togoria, kick a few Sith in the behind and travel up shit creek alley without a paddle. I'm pretty sure that I don't actually want to do that IC. Being a Jedi, I'd prefer if it was peaceful, particularly after the 400s years of plague and the Netherworld event, but hey, peace is a lie right?

I'm aware of the logistics. Right now, the One Sith is more than capable and prepared to continue tearing through Republic space, until it's mission is achieved and democracy is no more. At a win-loss record of 10:1 in favour of the OS, thinks don't look too bright for the Pubs. Chazwa Beef Steak (did I get that meme right?) is about to get prepared for another hog roast. With all this in mind, why would you agree to peace? Why would you let your enemies off the hook? Surely you should dice that steak up and serve it on a palate? Right?

Well, that's what this thread is for. OOC discussion and debate seems the prerequisite on Chaos before anything can get done IC. I'd much prefer the option of starting a plain old IC thread, where my Jedi Knight arrives above Coruscant and we just start roleplaying. But I'm more than aware that would probably end up with her being locked back up in the Black Pyramid, to be tortured again (Vornskr you fiend!) or my thread would be straight up ignored. I wouldn't put it past your more trollish of writers to simply write a four sentence post that ended up with every planetary gun taking a shot at the Sochi Ru because it's for the lulz, amiright?

So for you lazy folks who didn't read the above, here is the tl;dr

Can the Republic and One Sith finally sit down at the negotiation table and hash out terms? The only angle I'm working here is trying to come up with a piece of roleplay that differentiates from the normal "here man, we're invading you on this date, let's hash out terms for that invasion, lol ok see you on the battlefield".

 

[Krayzen Dratos]

[member="Isamu Baelor"]

 

[Quietus]

I think the better question is not can they, but will they?

Peace has to be desired by both sides for something like this to work or even happen beyond a hope, wish, or a dream.

It would be interesting to see play out, to be sure.

 

[Julius Sedaire]

I think the better question is not can they, but will they?

Peace has to be desired by both sides for something like this to work or even happen beyond a hope, wish, or a dream.

It would be interesting to see play out, to be sure.

I think this is the question. Except from an entirely OOC standpoint, to me it would make zero sense for the One Sith to call a halt to aggression ICly. Granted, i've not kept up with their current morphology and transformation after a flurry of Administrative changes, but it would strain credulity for me to believe they'd make peace with anyone. The only plausible basis would be as a stalling tactic to mount an offensive to wipe the GR off the galactic scene. And they don't need that tactic. They are pretty well able to do it without. And that is readily apparent ICly to anyone with a lick of military acumen.

While it would be interesting, I can't see it making any sense. Though, I am not a member of either faction, so it's just armchair observations here.

 

[Darth Ayra]

| [member="Julius Sedaire"] | [member="Lorelei Darke"] |

They have internal problems, for sure. That's to be expected with a Sith faction. But with Mephidium (sorry if I'm not spelling that right) against the Dark Lord resulting in the latter's death, from that standpoint, I would want to stamp out anymore seeds of insurrection against the current leadership. But that seems a mute point for peace talks, considering that the OS are more than capable of handling those internal matters, if any still remain, whilst continuing the war effort.

It depends on the leverage. On the face of it, the Republic has nothing to negotiate with. On the other hand, the OS have more than enough leverage to do what they like. Getting them to the table would be the easy part (still very difficult). Getting them to agree to peace would be the difficult part.

Can they? Will they? Same difference with the Sith. They only deal with absolutes. Can they let go the war? As someone who has written predominantly as a Sith writer, I could see it from their point of view. Place the Republic on lock down, through the terms agreed by the peace process, allowing the Empire to expand into other sectors. Get the Sith competing with the threat of the Galactic Alliance, First Order and even the Silver Sanctum, who have participated in their fair share of battles against them.

 

[Cira]

We had star peace between the Sith and republic before. It was like the treaty of Coruscant and led under supreme chancellor aledis after the dark harvest event.

It lasted all of two months if that because people were so bored.

It is Star Wars for a reason.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

One of the more interesting and thought provoking moments from the EU Canon universe, for me, was the Treaty of Coruscant.

A treaty imposed by the Sith or else they'd level Coruscant to the ground.

Everyone knew it was a minor halt in the war whilst both sides regained strength.

 

[Tydeus of Tion]

 

[Tyberius Fel]

 

[Ellie Mors]

I, for one, prefer war to peace.

Because, at the end of the day, nobody will be left standing.

 

[Darth Ayra]

[member="Braith Achlys"]

And it still won't bring her back.

 

[Eugen Aker]

[member="Ella Nova"]

Nice of you to post this topic as the invasion is kicking off, thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not sure how I feel about you gushing over the One Sith in most of your opening post either.

In the example you cited, the purpose of the treaty was to allow the Sith to consolidate their gains so that they could gear up to take the rest of the galaxy. All the while, forcing the Republic into accepting humiliating terms like having Imperial protocol droids openly monitoring Republic officials.

There's no reason for the One Sith to negotiate with the Republic. We have no leverage, we're not on the offensive, and they're not under any real external pressure from other factions.

Speaking for myself, I don't even want to negotiate with the Sith. There is no placating them. All we can do is git gud and fight. That's the only way to change our fortunes, and I didn't join the GR to dance around the Sith.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

I am sorry for leaving you hanging like that, [member="Ella Nova"]

Things just got away from me for awhile and I forgot

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Braith Achlys"]

And it still won't bring her back.

 

[Vilaz Munin]

Let's not reduce my income, please.

 

[Zef Halo]

 

[Loray Tares]

I'm not sure how I feel about you gushing over the One Sith in most of your opening post either.

Take a chill pill, yo. This isn't us or them.

 

[Jairus Starvald]

Y'all know me. I just want the Republic to burn, die and be wiped off the map, but that's just me...

 

[Isamu Baelor]

Purely from an IC perspective: Considering the OS has the upper hand, I doubt they'd be interested in a peace treaty. If they were, it would probably be a very unfair treaty. Something like: GR surrenders all planets around the core, and are exiled into the outer rim areas.

 

[Jsc]

• 1st thought: Why is this public?
• 2nd thought: This smells like bottled desperation mislabeled "perfume".
• 3rd thought: Also, why?
• 4th thought. I'm hungry. I wonder what my monitor tastes like.