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Rey's Third Lesson - Last Jedi Behind-The-Scenes

Jsc

Disney's Princess
Here is the first footage from The Last Jedi Deleted Scene of Luke's Third Lesson to Rey - Article by Gizmodo, 1/24/2018.

Discussion time!

After reading and watching the above article and BTS footage from Last Jedi, we discover that Luke's third lesson about the necessary fall of the Jedi was in regard to the old Order's temptation of interventionism. The temptation to be the Galaxy Police. That a Jedi with power and a sword feels the need to use that power and that sword.

This is shown by Rey running back to the Caretaker village to use her new blue lightsaber to save the village from the bandits. Upon arrival she discovers there are no bandits. The Caretakers are having a festival and there is simply a lot of smoke, fire, and noise being made. Luke attempts to use this as an allusion that the old Jedi aren't actually a necessary part of nature or the natural order of life at all. The Galaxy Police never needed to exist at all.

Naturally. Rey talks back to him and asserts that the power of the Jedi was in her belief. She believed in Luke Skywalker and that meant something real, natural, moral, and good. She is not ashamed of her own desire to correct the wrongs in the world. Mistakes and all. To which Luke then becomes ashamed of his duplicity. The spirit of Yoda later reminding him that perfection is not required of the Jedi Way. For failure is often our own best teacher. Later saying, we are what they grow beyond. And that's okay.

Now. Rian has already mentioned elsewhere why this scene was cut from the movie. Reasons such as length, Luke looking bad, and that it added nothing substantial to the current plot. However. It does tell us a little bit more about Luke's very opinionated view of why "The Jedi have to end."

Thusly,

What are your thoughts about The Third Lesson. Is Rey correct in assuming that faith in the Light and the Jedi Way trumps the missteps of fallible sentient beings, such as it's wizards. Or perhaps is Luke more correct? That indeed the old Jedi Order spent eons building a flawed ecosystem of galactic law enforcement and leisurely assurances to their assumed deification and moralistic perfection?

Or. Is the truth maybe somewhere in between? :)
 
[member="Jay Scott Clark"]
The galaxy came to rely on the Jedi, which meant that when a crisis came the galaxy was not prepared, and nor were the Jedi.

It probably should have been included, because as it is, he says 3 lessons but only gives 2.

After all, if the sodding casino planet stayed in, this could have been left surely.
 

Jsc

Disney's Princess
Valiens Nantaris said:
After all, if the sodding casino planet stayed in, this could have been left surely.
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Silly Casino. :D
 

Matt the Radar Tech

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It definitely comes down to the Jedi's hubris. They believed they were the heroes of the time, they acted like it, and fell into the belief so fully that they began ignoring real signs of threat or danger, specifically the machinations of the Sith and the dark side. More interested in being adored by the masses, I think they basically lost their initial effectiveness (as I'm sure they began with a strong start) and by the time Palpatine dropped his plans on them, the Jedi (most of them) were more or less mascots there for routine, boring and predictable problems - so of course the outcome was bad for the Jedi. Not to mention their self-worth had grown exponentially with their own status in the galaxy, and how people perceived them.

I'd even argue that because the Jedi had become lax, by some of their own admissions, the newer batches of Jedi were lacking in training and philosophy also.

But, coming back to the topic at hand, I feel Luke is right. Rey's misguided, and a result of that later idealistic, everything-is-fine, can I have a selfie with you Jedi way of thinking.
 

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