Simulated Invasion and Base Building on Carida

[Gir Quee]

[member="Kela Thayne"](soon to be Dallen) and myself are going to be running a mock invasion on Carida that will also serve as a development thread to establish planetary defenses on the world as part of a codex submission.

If anyone is interested in participating in the simulation or has ideas of what we should put on Carida, feel free to post in this thread.

Our general plan right now is to have two opposing fleets face off with each other, along with ground forces (including Jedi and special ops) and starfighters. It might be a good opportunity for a practice duel. If you need a partner to face off, I will throw in Travot Ravenna.

 

[Aithne Charr]

I'll play mock invaders. After all, practice against a dark sider could be useful for you pubs.

 

[Dallen Thayne]

I for one am very excited for this.

And [member="Solan Charr"] that offer is very welcome. Both the invaders and defenders will be Republic Members. The Good Grand Admiral will be running Planetary Defense with a fleet in orbit. I will be heading the attacking forces, so I'd be glad to have you. I suppose this thread could also be used for people reporting which side they would like to be on as well if they participate.

Consider it experience for the characters to bring into battle with the Sith later and giving writers more dueling experience.

As well as better equipping one of our planets in case its an invasion target someday.

 

[H3xle]

You know I will participate, though I may be slower as I've been neglecting other characters due to the invasion.

 

[Aithne Charr]

Come now [member="Kela Thayne"], us Glasses wearers got to stick together. Infact, [member="Taeli Raaf"] should join our side. The side of the four eyed invaders.

(Keep in mind i wear glasses in real life, i am allowed to call myself four eyed )

 

[Taeli Raaf]

[member="Solan Charr"] [member="Gir Quee"]

Just for that, I'm siding with the defenders and totally gonna find you to have a friendly duel

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Taeli Raaf"]

You are no fun...

 

[Popo]

[member="Gir Quee"]
Suggestion: contract it out.

Why? Two-fold. First, you can spend more time figuring out how to defend it and not have to worry about attacking it yourself. Second, you learn how to fight another faction. IC'ly this means you learn some tricks of a potential enemy. Ooc'ly, you build relations and figure out how to better defend yourself.

My suggestion for contracting it out: Mandalorians or Omega Protectorate.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Popo"]

I think the point was Popo to get the faction experience in both defending the planet as well as possible counters for invading. It allows you to pick which ever you need more practice on and improve yourself rather than just improve your ability to defend... which to be honest the Republic has -ALOT- of practice at doing.

 

[Popo]

[member="Solan Charr"]
Yeah, but you're missing one point. They can also teach you new stuff, too. How to defend is but one side.

What happens when you have them defend the same place against you?

You can learn a lot that way. Not all commanders think alike. Culture and mindset speak volumes.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Popo"]

That is true, but could the commander on the invading side of the simulation not use unorthodox methods that we would not normally use. Im not saying its a bad idea to do cross faction simulated invasions, hell im setting one up between the IR and someone else with someone in that. What im saying is that there is experience to be gained by doing internal faction simulations as well especially when something like the Republic has as many people as it does.

 

[Popo]

[member="Solan Charr"]
You've mainly got Jedi and you've been fighting Sith. You've got... Less than a half dozen active NFU fighters?

The Mandorians, for example, don't rely on the Force and actually go out of their way to negate it. What happens if someone frames the Pubs for an attack on Mandalore? It's happened before with the New Order. Can you hold against the Mando'ade?

The OP mainly rely on their fleets and tactics combined with hard hitting FUs and NFUs. Can the Pubs hold against the combined arms tactics they employ? Can the Republic fleet hold against the OP fleet?

Training internally within the faction is well and good, but you have to look outward to understand where you, as a faction, stand.

Shadow boxing only counts for so much.

 

[Anoki Sihin]

I'm up for this, sounds like fun.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Popo"]

Again, im not saying it isn't useful. But the Republic needs more practice with Invading which is why i am saying that for this one it should remaining an internal simulation. Mostly because Carida is a Republic world, because this is to be used as a Dev Thread for the republic from the sounds of it, and the defenses being placed on the planet will be Republic ones meant to ensure defense. Giving anyone a look at the said defenses would only weaken the whole point of putting up those defenses. Through doing this we can ensure that outside groups do not get information that could be used to harm the Republic. Keep in mind that they would get experience against us just as we would against them, not that i see relations with what could be considered allies on a good day being torn apart any time soon.

In Short, Keep this one internal, do more that are external when the improvement of defenses is not on the line.

 

[Aran Finn]

I'll take part, as long as someone picks a fight with me.

Fite me ic, im 2 stronk 4 u

 

[Dallen Thayne]

[member="Popo"]

That is an excellent point, though I don't think the Omega could stir up the opposition for it, but it would be nice perhaps. The Mandalorians might be busy with their invasion stuff still from what I know, but then you know more about that Mr. Hutt. So if the mandos were open to it that might not be such a bad idea considering their renown.

Still, let's see what the rest of interested parties in the faction think. The problem of coordination and keeping multifaction interest is something to worry about. It might get us more participants though and make this more fun as well. Plus we'd have to check if those other factions are free or interested to begin with as well.

However we were also planning to use the thread to provide a dev thread to the Codex to say that Carida has a Shutter Style Planetary Shield and a Planetary Ion Cannon, which the attackers would have to work around and be alright with for the thread. Do you think that might pose a problem?

 

[Popo]

[member="Solan Charr"]
Simulations don't always mean "use the exact layout of defenses" and you're kinda missing the point entirely, but if you're dead set on a xenophobic Republic, don't let me stop you lol

Dev threads are really nice and all, don't get me wrong, but shiny toys only help so much. Allies can win or lose wars and its stuff like this that gets you those allies.

Anyways, take my advice or not. I'm off for the night. Toodles.

 

[Popo]

[member="Popo"]

That is an excellent point, though I don't think the Omega could stir up the opposition for it, but it would be nice perhaps. The Mandalorians might be busy with their invasion stuff still from what I know, but then you know more about that Mr. Hutt. So if the mandos were open to it that might not be such a bad idea considering their renown.

Still, let's see what the rest of interested parties in the faction think. The problem of coordination and keeping multifaction interest is something to worry about. It might get us more participants though and make this more fun as well. Plus we'd have to check if those other factions are free or interested to begin with as well.

However we were also planning to use the thread to provide a dev thread to the Codex to say that Carida has a Shutter Style Planetary Shield and a Planetary Ion Cannon, which the attackers would have to work around and be alright with for the thread. Do you think that might pose a problem?

You have precedence for both of those from the invasion of carida when I was Supreme Chancellor. Just use the thread as precedence and I can't see why it wouldn't work. That said, I'm Factory, not Codex.

 

[Aithne Charr]

... Xenophobic? Again popo, i am on your side about outside factions, but in this case where they want to do it as a Dev would it not be better to keep our ideas for defensive toys secret. I am talking from a realworld stand point. Think about it like this. The United States develop a new weapon of war, say a new rocket or tank, we don't immediately go get Britain or Canada and show them the prototype or its testing do we?

On the point of what Kela said to comes into question Cross faction interest. This is something notorious for factions where one expects the other to be as active as them and 95% of the time one of the factions bail and it makes for a waste of time when this happens. Plus i had thought the Mandos would be busy myself with their invasion, skirmishes, internal stuff and dominion. But hey, i could be wrong.

 

[Dallen Thayne]

[member="Anoki Sihin"] [member="Alen Na'Varro"]

A pair of Jedi up to join in is well welcome.

[member="Popo"]

Ah, then I might search for those threads. It would be nice to employ such defenses more often in invasions. Not enough people properly go about invading planets.

https://youtu.be/du8zO3wD-J0?t=59

Not enough telling of how a single world can become a campaign.