Site Grouping

[Matreya]

With the recent April Fools joke, specifically the Fantasy Board joke, I decided to make one. Not asking about specifications per se, on issues such as making the site, rather on an issue I have had.

I see there is a set organized state for each type of account (ie, FJ, RPJ, Admin, Writer, etc), and I wonder, was this ever an issue? If so how did you fix it?

....I feel this is a stupid way of asking lol.

OK, clarifying:

How do you keep a staff member as a staff member without it interfering with other groups? For example, if the account chosen is a writer account, but they are made Admin, how do you keep it saying Admin and not Writer?

This is an issue I have seen on my own, but not once on this site.

 

[Kenrath]

[member="Lord Misao"]

Sounds like an issue with the group tags saving for individual members. You may have to consider removing said person from the writer group and have them only show up/be in the Admin group.

 

[Jeron Verity]

[member="Lord Misao"]


Been a forum mod and administrator a lot, and specifically I wouldn't fully understand until I saw the board functionality. However, there shouldn't be a problem. Administrators get all the privileges a writer account would, so if a member is changed to admin, they would receive the forum tag admin, and lose nothing as an admin.


If you need help, give me a call.

Disclaimer: I've never been an admin or mod of CHAOS, but multiple other forum sites since 2008

 

[Kenrath]

[member="Lord Misao"]


Been a forum mod and administrator a lot, and specifically I wouldn't fully understand until I saw the board functionality. However, there shouldn't be a problem. Administrators get all the privileges a writer account would, so if a member is changed to admin, they would receive the forum tag admin, and lose nothing as an admin.


If you need help, give me a call.

Disclaimer: I've never been an admin or mod of CHAOS, but multiple other forum sites since 2008

Permission settings wouldn't effect which tag is actually displayed though. Don't know the specific site but if it has a limit on how many tags are displayed, much like Chaos here, it may not be saving and once you back out of the window defaulting back to the writer tag. Which is probably the site's default tag for all members.

 

[Jeron Verity]

[member="Vengeance"]


Tags should only display what group you are in, Admin should replace Member. While some groups are joinable and leaveable, main/essential groups replace each other, or should. I've messed with it a lot, as I moderated Roleplay forums. But yes, it depends on the forum software

 

[Tefka]

Depends on the software you're using. What software are you using?

[member="Lord Misao"]

 

[Matreya]

As it is, just the ProBoards basic. Nothing more.

I am thinking of the switch to HTML coding, and using more customized extents, but on a cellphone alone, it is far to much.

 

[Tefka]

I've never worked with proboards, but the concept with IPB is to create seperate usergroups, apply the permissions to those usergroups, and then set those usergroups to display an indicator (here, we call them rank titles).

Then each subsequent usergroup you see, such as Jedi, Sith, etc. is indeed its own user group. However, none of them are utilized as primary, they're all secondary and actually apply no permissions to the account. They're merely aesthetic.

We then have an extra modification to our IPB software that allows our "rank titles" to display even if they're secondary. Then I limit that to 2.

I could have 30 rank titles showing under each avatar, but that would stretch out the page and be super annoying.

 

[Lief]

Hey there, if I read your question correctly then this should be of some help:

You add them to the Admin/Moderator group, and remove them from whichever group they were already in*. Whichever they're in first tends to override any groups they join after. For generic groups that don't affect staff membership this isn't an issue, but with staff membership it is.

Proboards is different from IPB/many other forum hosts, as you do all of the member edits through their profile and not the ACP (Admin CP); so to make someone an administrator or moderator, you have to go into their profile and there will be a "groups" tab.

*It should be noted that unless you specifically make a writer group, Proboards does not place anyone in a group. There is no default member group, and if you wanted a "Writer" group you would have to manually place everyone into it (unless you found a plugin to do it for you)

If you have any further questions (or require clarification on anything I've said) feel free to PM me; I use Proboards a lot so I should be able to help.

(EDIT: As a heads up: Proboards doesn't have rank titles the way that Chaos does - there is a way to add in something... similar... but it's very hands on and a pain to integrate)

[member="Lord Misao"]

 

[Ashin Varanin]

[member="Lord Misao"]

Kyra is far and away the best ProBoards admin I've ever seen. Heed her wooorrrrrrrrds.

 

[Captain Jordan]

As it is, just the ProBoards basic. Nothing more.

I am thinking of the switch to HTML coding, and using more customized extents, but on a cellphone alone, it is far to much.

Do yourself a favor and use something written in the last decade. SMF, phpBB and MyBB all have free hosts available. These are probably still not the most updated, but likely a bit more modern than Proboards.

If you can plunk down cash, there are plenty of cheap hosts out there (I'm happy to direct you to some reputable ones), but not everyone can. The advantage here is that you can use the absolute latest version of the software, including expanding your repertoire to just about any forum software out there. Vanilla, PunBB, bbPress, Flarum, FluxBB, esoTalk, and the paid ones like IPB, vBulletin, Xenforo, Burningboard, etc. If you're going this route, I'd be happy to help you get the initial setup done, and from there you should be totally fine.

Anyway, most of the software I've listed have a much nicer admin CP, which is more user friendly and doesn't require manual methods for much of what you're trying to accomplish.

 

[Kurayami Bloodborn]

[member="Lord Misao"]

Gotta back up [member="Captain Jordan"] on the suggestion of using something along those lines. I was an admin and moderator for a long while on a phpBB board, and I'm not the most organized person and usually don't do great with control panels. The UI is too confusing for my mind to easily streamline in most cases(lord knows how I managed the network mapping using software when I was going for my Network +, that was some of the least intuitive GUI i have ever used). However, with phpBB I had no issue taking care of any task I was handed. So from personal experience I would back the phpBB format.

 

[Lief]

Honestly, I find Proboards easy to use if you're not wanting to be too heavy on the CSS/HTML/etc. It's easy to find plugins which directly hook into your forum, the ACP is very easy to navigate compared to most. This is, of course, a personal opinion. Any forum can be "preferred" by an individual if they use it long enough.

I don't think the Original Post was showing concern toward Proboards as a whole, or even the ACP/layout/etc... Simply asking after information on a very specific part of it.

 

[Eralam]

I found ProBoards to be easy enough to handle in mobile format, but good luck coding anything.

 

[Matreya]

Thanks!

That answered the question! [member="Kyra Sol"]

 

[Matreya]

[member="Tefka"]
Your answer as well.

Thanks to you both!

 

[Matreya]

I found ProBoards to be easy enough to handle in mobile format, but good luck coding anything.

I took 5 years of HTML coding. Hopefully I can do it lol