Stealth Ship Review - Post All Links Please

[Ashin Varanin]

Due to various mistakes, edge cases, and poor judging, I've decided that it's absolutely imperative that we reexamine every ship we can find containing one of the following technologies.

• Stygium cloak
• Hibridium cloak
• Cloaking-equivalent stealth, or close enough
• Gravitic modulator
• Crystal gravfield trap (my primary concern with this is level of production - limited or unique should be the highest)

Please post links to every stealth ship of which you're aware. We need to reexamine standards, and we need to start with a comprehensive list. This stuff is getting abused by submitters, fleeters, and PVPers, so let's take a look at it, for deniability if for nothing else.

Off the top of my head, here are the ones I've made:
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/19117-seroth-class-frigates-ferocity-and-defiance/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/4693-the-chimaera/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/3275-monitor-class-corvette/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/4273-the-peregrine/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/20878-sekairo-class-stealth-transport/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/30072-libertys-veil-resubmission/

 

[Arage Bao]

Top of my head..

http://starwarsrp.net/topic/29650-the-bane-of-coruscant/

 

[Danger Arceneau]

Chloe Blake's Aurora Hawk - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/6375-yz-1200-aurora-hawk/
Nemene's http://starwarsrp.net/topic/30511-sicarius-class-stealth-yacht
Blackbird - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/12879-the-blackbird
Blackbird Adens http://starwarsrp.net/topic/29851-reaver-alen-navarros-personal-blackbird
Disciple - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/6909-the-disciple/
Gypsymoth - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/5368-gypsymoth
Coronet - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/30125-the-coronet
Shel'va Class - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/9159-shevla-kal-class-stealth-cruiser/

 

[Arage Bao]

http://starwarsrp.net/topic/31627-inquisitor-class-stealth-frigate/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/29851-reaver-alen-navarros-personal-blackbird/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/29525-cis-languor-class-elite-starfighter/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/29527-lo-203-furia-class-frigate/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/26806-deathbell-supremacy-fighter/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/24972-espada-class-stealth-transport/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/22939-x-17-liberator/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/22895-penumbra-class-interdictor/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/21492-ysmr-3-scythe/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/20199-the-blue-krait/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/19674-the-lightbringer/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/19390-skira-class-heavy-cruiser/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/19139-cabur-class-starfighter/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/17796-nynir-class-heavy-frigate/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/16803-imperial-ii-class-star-destroyer-chimaera/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/14878-rogue-class-infilitrator-class
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/14549-celestial-empress/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/14401-tie-spectre/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/8864-sentinel-class-cruiser/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/12783-scion-class-stealth-corvette/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/9159-shevla-kal-class-stealth-cruiser/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/11024-reason-class/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/11417-aether-dreamer/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/5232-maw-class-stealth-fighter-revised/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/11711-yun-harla/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/3239-rampant-class-assailant-monitor/
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/528-br-0100-netanorac
http://starwarsrp.net/topic/408-br-0117-resolnare/

 

[Danger Arceneau]

Sensor Masks

The Valkyrie - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/6485-the-valkyrie/

The Shadow Phoenix - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/9940-shadow-phoenix/

The Knight's Helm - http://starwarsrp.net/topic/10102-the-knights-helm/

 

[Ashin Varanin]

This ain't rocket science, but just as a reminder, once we get these lists up and running we're primarily looking for three things:

• Vessels that don't make sufficient tradeoffs for stealth capability, or that are overpowered even without stealth capability
• Vessels whose development threads are absent or insufficient (as a reminder, development threads of some kind are mandatory for stealth technology, and stygium requires special kinds of development thread - killing a character of 500+ posts, or performing mining/raiding/whatever operations on Aeten, Maramere, or a factory-approved stygium world)
• Vessels which are too powerful or well-outfitted for their level of production (none of these should be Mass and precious few if any should be Minor, in my opinion)

 

[Ashin Varanin]

In the interests of streamlining, I'm going to review all of these, even those I made at one point or another. Please double-check my evaluations of my own ships.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Seroth-class Frigates - Stygium, gravitic modulator, thrust trace dampers
Tradeoff for stealth: Zero hangar or passenger space
Development threads: 3 + event reward
Level of production: Semi-unique (2 ships)

The Chimaera - Crystal gravfield trap
Tradeoff for stealth: N/A (A CGT is not a stealth device)
Development threads: None cited
Level of production: Unique

Monitor-class Corvette - Crystal gravfield trap
Tradeoff for stealth: N/A
Development threads: None cited
Level of production: Minor (dropping to Limited)

The Peregrine - Hibridium
Tradeoff for stealth: Poor weapons
Development threads: None cited (grandfathered, but some were provided for a round of edits; I'll add those links)
Level of production: Unique

Sekairo-class Transport - Stygium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff for stealth: Otherwise unimpressive/weak
Development thread: Death of Ven'Rain Sekairo
Level of Production: Minor (dropping to Limited)

Liberty's Veil - Stygium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff for stealth: Unarmed
Development thread: 2
Level of Production: Unique

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Bane of Coruscant - Stygium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff for stealth: None (but it's an event ship)
Development thread: Killed Darth Ferus
Level of production: Unique

Aurora Hawk - Hibridium
Tradeoff for stealth: It's minor stealth and is just a non-combat freighter
Development thread: 1 (substantial)
Levle of production: Unique

Sicarius-class Stealth Yacht - sensor negator, gravitic modulators, photon absorber, thermal dissipator (cloak-equivalent stealth tech)
Tradeoff for stealth: It's a 55m yacht that moves like a Y-wing. It is, however, fragile and underarmed.
Development thread: 1 (basic)
Level of production: Minor. (Reducing to Limited)

Blackbird - sensor negator, gravitic modulator, photon absorber, thermal dissipator (cloak-equivalent stealth tech)
Tradeoff for stealth: A bit brokenly powerful. The speed, especially, is a problem. It's a cloaked A-Wing...
...with no development thread...
...that's mass-produced. (Reducing to Limited.)

 

[Ashin Varanin]

The Disciple - Stygium
Tradeoff for stealth: Low on weapons
Development thread: 3
Level of production: Unique

The Gypsymoth - Hibridium
Tradeoff for stealth: Significantly reduced what was, at the time, Wookieepedia's stock weapons loadout for the YV-929. Still a bit broken. Reducing warhead counts.
Development thread: 1 ( substantial)
Level of production: Unique

The Coronet - Hibridium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff: No hangar
Development thread: 1 ( substantial)
Level of produciotn: Unique

The Shev'la Kal - Stygium
Tradeoff: Not really, but has no gravitic modulator
Development thread: 4 (substantial)
Level of production: Unique

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Inquisitor-class Frigate - nightshadow, stygium, TibannaX, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff: Cuts to weapons and hangar space
Development thread: 1 (very basic) - [member="Ayden Cater"], I'd suggest including the link to OP's initial acquisition of Maramere to prove stygium ownership; this thread alone isn't enough, especially not for a capital ship
Level of production: Limited

Languor-class elite starfighter - stygium
Tradeoff: Gets slower while cloaked
Development thread: 1 (large)
Level of production: Limited

Furia-clsas frigate - stygium, tibannaX
Tradeoff - poor weapons and fighters
Development thread: 1 (link broken) - [member="Jared Ovmar"], care to toss us the link?
Level of production: Unique

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Deathbell-class fighter - Adegan cloak variant (pontite)
Tradeoffs: Not really. Smells a little broken but not too bad.
Development thread: 1 (pretty poor - never once uses the word 'pontite' or 'adegan'; had to go to the planet sub to verify it had any adegan crystals at all)
Level of produciton: Limited

Espada-class Transport - stygium, gravitic modulator, basically just a Sekairo ripoff
Tradeoffs: Not really.
Development thread: Killed Ashe the reaper
Level of production: Minor (dropped to Limited)

 

[Arage Bao]

[member="Ashin Varanin"] I think this was the thread, supplied to me by Alli.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

X-17 Liberator - Nightshadow, stygium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff: Way overgunned for a support frigate.
Development thread: 2 (1 absolutely worthless, 1 apparently irrelevant and low-quality)
Level of production: Unique
Not even sure what to do about that one.

Penumbra-class Interdictor - stygium, gravitic modulator
Tradeoff: No weapons
Development thread: Death of Zaiden
level of production: Minor (dropped to limited)

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Ysmir-3 Scythe - low-level stealth
Not a problem.

The Blue Krait - a Scion-class, to be handled later.

The Lightbringer - Stygium, gravitics
Tradeoffs: Undergunned, low hangar count
Dev threads: 6, 4 of them especially relevant
Level of production: Unique

Skira-class heavy cruiser - sensor mask
Tradeoffs: None
Dev threads: 2 (not hugely relevant but whatever)
Level of production: Minor

Cabur-class starfighter - sensor mask
Tradeoffs: Tough to say
Dev thread: No
Level of production: Minor

Lussk's Chimaera - Stygium
Tradeoffs: Not really, but it's got no gravitics
Dev thread: 1, adequate
Level of production: Unique

Celestial Empress - Stygium
Tradeoffs: Not really
Dev thread: 1, adequate
Level of production: Unique

 

[Ashin Varanin]

TIE Spectre - Stygium
Tradeoffs: Can't fire or shield while cloaked, lacks a laser cannon
Dev threads: 1, adequate
Level of production: Minor (dropping to Limited)

Sentinel-class Cruiser - Crystal gravfield trap
Tradeoffs: Not really necessary
Dev threads: 4, unverifiable relevance
Level of production: Mass (dropping to Minor rather than Limited due to dev threads)

Scion-class stealth corvette - adegan cloak
Tradeoffs: Just lacks gravitics
Dev threads: 4, of varying quality
Level of production: Limited

Reason-class - adegan cloak, nightshadow coating, gravitics
Tradeoffs: Speaking as the person who approved it, it's seriously, seriously overgunned when it comes to defensive guns. Depending on what math you use, and not counting the 200 fastmount light quad turbolasers, it's got the equivalent of 1000 defensive guns - as much as the Executor and the Emperor's Shield put together. [member="Domino"], might want to look to nerfing that pretty hard.
Dev threads: 3
Level of production: Unique

Aether Dreamer - Stygium
Tradeoffs: Low on guns and hangar space.
Dev threads: 1, adequate
Level of production: Unique

Maw-class stealth fighter - sensor jammers, gravitics, ultrachrome armor???
Tradeoffs: None
Dev threads: 1, quality unverifiable
Level of production: Minor (reduced it to Limited)

 

[Ashin Varanin]

Yun-Harla - Stygium
Tradeoffs - nope
Dev thread - 'wip'
Production - Unique

Rampant Monitor - sensor shroud
Tradeoffs - really freaking slow
Dev thread - nope
Production - mass-produced

Neta'norac - hibridium cloak, sensor jammer
Tradeoffs - Nope. Overgunned, as it happens, or too fast for its loadout. Plus advanced shields.
Dev thread - nope.
Production - Minor (nerfing to Limited)

Resol'nare - See Neta'norac.