Taking the Side roads?

[Akio Diachi]

So, this character is very--different. He is going for all his gear to be on a different path, with a different mindset, and a new look at the Force. Or at least what I consider to be a new look that is largely based on Zen Buddhism.

This led me to think about taking characters that are different. In the Pathfinder game mechanics, sorcery to make an iron gollum is on par with clockwork to make a robot made of iron. Advanced medicine is the same as a Cure heavy wounds spell.

As I have been making this character's gear some of the subs have received a level of...... what I consider strange phobia or resitance. Is this just because I am wording the subs wrongly or that he really is OP? As I see it, armor that is alchemized to lightsaber resistant is on par with phrik. A dart that is thrown to deal damage is on par with a slugthrower or a blaster. A razor-edged katana made of phrik is like a lightsaber.

All input is welcome, and thanks.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Uhm, no. No physical sword is equal to a lightsaber.

 

[Ellie Mors]

We don't operate on boardgame mechanics, so much of your issues lie there.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

Uhm, no. No physical sword is equal to a lightsaber.

Ehhh.... Really depends on perspective, there. Personally I've seen swords that are often better in some ways to lightsabers, but that's just me and usually those swords have a lot of development behind them.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Ehhh.... Really depends on perspective, there. Personally I've seen swords that are often better in some ways to lightsabers, but that's just me and usually those swords have a lot of development behind them.

Aspect-wise, in terms of abilities they can use that a lightsaber can, they are not better. Special powers, like cutting through a force power, isn't the same as improved cutting over a lightsaber.

 

[Matreya]

Force Imbued offers similar cutting power. Similar. Not even as good.

In my opinion, non contemporary weaponry is cooler, but as is the more mainstreams tend to be better. Unless a good amount of work is put into what you make.

Either way. A Dart that's thrown, is like a shell if its sped up through Ballistakinesis. Otherwise not. Swords are not on par. That's basically the biggest issues I see.

I like the Buddhist approach. Its semi unique

 

[Ellie Mors]

Regardless, a sharp phrik sword is not equal to a lightsaber. You can improve the sword with alchemy/the force, but it will not equal a lightsaber in terms of cutting power, weightlessness, and so on. You can come close, but not land right on superheated plasma.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

[member="Braith Achlys"]
You're arguing perspectives. In my mind, a lightsaber is okay for most, but lacking in some areas. To someone else, a lightsaber is a beat all, end all. Broad generalizations are fine, but expecting others to hold to the same perspective is a bit much. Monomolecular songsteel or phrik sword with some alchemical treatment? Almost if not just as light and almost if not completely similar in every way to a lightsaber, if not surpassing in some areas.

That said, for me personally, the only thing a lightsaber has that a sword doesn't have is that a lightsaber can cut in any direction.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Arrbi Betna"]
Referring specifically to cutting power/weightlessness.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

[member="Braith Achlys"]
I have a sword with one character that can cut beskar when focused on. Lightsaber can't do that. As for weightlessness, I agree to an extent, but argue that a sword is easier to handle because it's balanced. A lightsaber has its weight entirely in the handle and according to canon is highly difficult to use and requires a great deal of training to use. Swords take less training.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Braith Achlys"]
I have a sword with one character that can cut beskar when focused on. Lightsaber can't do that. As for weightlessness, I agree to an extent, but argue that a sword is easier to handle because it's balanced. A lightsaber has its weight entirely in the handle and according to canon is highly difficult to use and requires a great deal of training to use. Swords take less training.

A canonical lightsaber can cut beskar with proper adjustments.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

[member="Braith Achlys"]
Yeah, if you know what you're doing and put the time and effort into it, but you're missing the point. A lightsaber is not a God Weapon. It's all based on the perspective of the writer using it and the writer facing it. It's not a black and white issue, it's a gray issue. There are pros and cons to each one. They may not be equal in many ways, but the varied strengths and weaknesses put them on par with each other depending on what they are. It's akin to arguing existentialism or whether physical light or physical dark is heavier than the other.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

A canonical lightsaber can cut beskar with proper adjustments.

*Sprays water at Lightsaber Jockey, laughs as it shorts out.*

 

[Akio Diachi]

[member="Braith Achlys"]

I didn't say a sword was on par with a lightsaber. I said an alchemized lightsaber proof sword being the same as one made of phrik.

But what I am asking/saying is for all intents and purposes is one should be all the same as another in essence. A blade is a blade. Take it from someone who's been a student of martial arts for the better part of 14 years. The method of making it or the idea behind it is what I am wanting to put out there. Opening the forum for more unconventional ways to skin the proverbial cat.

 

[Arrbi Betna]

I didn't say a sword was on par with a lightsaber. I said an alchemized lightsaber proof sword being the same as one made of phrik.

One of my alts has an alchemized wooden sword to fight with. It's fun.

 

[Matreya]

[member="Braith Achlys"]Monomolecular songsteel or phrik sword with some alchemical treatment?

Per the responses to weapons made in the past, this is not accepted on site. At least not in the Factory.

Either way, perspectives aside, you simply have to recognize in many ways lightsabers are logically superior. First and foremost, your own like, that it can cut in any direction, thus be a proper defense as well in any direction. Secondly, superheated plasma can cut almost anything given enough time. Including solid walls of metal etc, a sword can do that with certain aspects. But even then it will take forever.

I have tried Alch, Rare, Force Imbued, hell an appendage made like a sword that moved roughly the speed of sound, and in the end Lightsabers tend to go better.

Now. Logic aside. Does that make it the preferred weapon? Far from it. Literally none of my chars on site have preferred a lightsaber. At one point Zaiden used one; because it was basically a Green Lantern ring. That's it.

 

[Matreya]

A razor-edged katana made of phrik is like a lightsaber.

@Akio Diachi

 

[Akio Diachi]

[member="Arrbi Betna"]

Dude..... Yes.

 

[Akio Diachi]

[member="Darth Pikiran"]

If your going to quote me, take it in perspective. Both the lightsaber and the sword are the same in intents and purposes; cut the other guy's arm off. It's not apples to oranges and I didn't say "as good as" or superior. In fact if my memory serves me correctly the wiki states that a force imbued blade can deflect blasters and is lightsaber proof. So, yes, given the right treatment according to cannon a sword is *like* a lightsaber in many regards. The same? No. But to say that a lightsaber is better that a sword is preference.

 

[Ellie Mors]

*Sprays water at Lightsaber Jockey, laughs as it shorts out.*

I thank Kit Fisto for the correction of that issue.