The point has already been made

[Noamd]

A friend and I were talking about this quiet a lot and I thought I would bring it up here

In you mind is the dark side evil or just the Sith?

Personally I don't think it is. The Dark side uses negative emotions yes but it can be used for good. Luke in episode 6 used the Dark side to defeat Vader. Well that's what we assume.

The ground this is based off is shaky at best I know.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Nomad Crimson"]
That's like saying you can commit genocide with good intentions.

Good intentions do not wipe away the bad.

 

[Lira Dajenn]

 

[Noamd]

[member="Lira Dajenn"]

I'm not delusional! okay maybe I am but that's not the point

[member="Silara Vantai"]
That can be said about creatures such as locusts.

 

[Oka Osaa]

Luke used emotions but it wasn't the darkside. If anything, it was Vaapad.

It depends on the user of the darkside. Everyone can be evil. We can't just judge a darksider and say they force shocked a Jedi for no reason. What if the Jedi attacked first and the darksider wasn't going to attack. Kinda like that but if a darksider just killed for no reason, for power, he's evil. But if someone's a darksider, they probably was good at some time so they're most likely bad. Sith are bad. Its in there code I thinkor iI may be wrong but some Jedi aren't sweethearts either but its usually (lightside = good)(darkside = bad) its common for that. Its something that is a common argument and probably has no real answer. Everyone is different no matter their allegiance.

[member="Nomad Crimson"]

 

[Oka Osaa]

This brings me back to Episode 3.

Mace was about to destroy a sith(Jedi do that) but dumb anakin stops him

 

[Lira Dajenn]

Darkside

 

[Noamd]

Okay never mind!

You've all proven my point wrong!

 

[Mrrew]

 

[Corey's OOC]

I'm a fan of the ends justifying the means. Using the full range of emotions to fuel yourself just has you connecting with what makes an organic organic, and sapient. All kind of depends on the species. But I think the Dark Side is the True Side.

#DarkSideIsEternal

 

[Fabula Caromed]

Oh darn. It's been a whole week without someone bringing up a "the Sith aren't really evil" or "the Jedi are the evil ones" discussion. We were about to beat our record, too.

 

[Oka Osaa]

[member="Fabula Cavataio"] dang, better luck next week?

 

[Noamd]

[member="Fabula Cavataio"]

That wasn't the discussion at all

 

[Fabula Caromed]

If you want to make a genuine discussion out of it (and I hesitate to do this, because we've already done this exact thread a dozen times), the fundamental definitions of the Light Side and Dark Side are a combination of the state of mind you're in when you use the Force and the intent for which you have at the time. The Light Side requires calmness of spirit and cannot normally be used for violent means, while the Dark Side requires a state of heightened emotion and is very frequently used for selfish means.

Whether or not this makes either one evil or good largely depends on how you decide to look at it. In-universe, there are several theories, and none of them is accepted as "correct" to the exclusion of others. It's an argument of opinion, which means there can be no satisfactory or concrete answer. If I believe that the Force is one big blob of interpretation that is as good or evil as it is used to be, and someone else believes that there are some aspects of the Force that are inherently good or evil, neither one of us can be "wrong" or "right." It's all opinion and theory.

Like...unless you're a movie!canon extremist. In which case the Dark Side is named so because it's evil and there's no room for interpretation.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

[member="Fabula Cavataio"]


This thread needs more tropes. They make everything better.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

Of course you do! Tropes are addictive.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Nomad Crimson"]
Wiping out every last locust would result in no food source for an entire species that preys on them, which would starve them, and then that would starve their predators, and an ecological crisis would occur.

See? I can twist "good" decisions into bad ones too. Semantics won't resolve this argument. The light side is "the better good" and the dark side is not. Sure, you can use the dark side "for good", but doing evil in the name of good is not good at all. That's all I'm trying to get at. In book canon it isn't that there is actually a potential for it to be good, it is that the characters are incapable of understanding that doing bad things with good intentions does not make them good. It makes them foolish and bad.

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

The Dark side uses negative emotions yes but it can be used for good.

Anger, hatred and passion are not negative in and of themselves.

The Jedi seek to purge all emotion from the being. In doing so, Jedi actually lose their humanity. If Star Wars was honest, it would be the Jedi who logically progressed into genocidal totalitarian maniacs.

 

[Judas of Vahl]