Tribe of the Mando Project Discussion

[Beskadala]

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"SUNDERED BUT, UNBROKEN"​

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It is a time of loss, of mourning and of searching - in Mando'a it is lamented as the Time of the Lost, the Echoy'la Ca'nara. Splintered and scattered from their homeworld of Mandalore the remaining Mandalorians are forced to engineer their new destinies as a diaspora family. But, even in this age of strife - the Way can be found. Mandalorian Clans survive on their own, rebuilding and renewing. Together, although divided and disparate, they are one Tribe. A Tribe of the Mandalorians.

I understand it is a difficult time for Mando RPers. And I am still very new, so excuse me if I am speaking out of turn. But, in this decentralized and separated state there is some real potential to RP some very cool plots. Inspired by the Mandalorian, I am proposing the formation of a loose, very loose, coalition of Mandos to form a Tribe of the Mandalorians. Not a faction, nor any real government, just more of a Plot Theme - where Mandalorian form underground covens, i.e. Tribes, that operate across hundreds of worlds. They can literally be underground - hidden below the cityscapes across the Core, Expansion, and Outer Rim regions, doing their own thing until the day comes that the bulk of RPers are ready for a major faction again. OOCly it would act like the Bounty Hunter Network - a single place on the site for Mandos to discuss and work plots and ideas. (Not necessarily strive for a new Empire - it seems now is not the time for those things).

There is a lot of potential here to RP inter-tribe plots, stories of rebuilding, loss, processing, and special missions/raids etc. This time of separation is really a good breeding ground for building many new covens, new stories and new locations to lore build. And while separated, the Mandalorians can gather periodically at safe-haven worlds like Shogun or Taintang (newly formed Mongol styled Mando world).

Anyways just an idea, I might work my Mando into forming a Tribe hidden on some world (maybe Nar Shaada or some Core World) idk. But, I would love to open a discussion with the big Mando RPers to see their take?

This is the Way.

 

[Obran]

The words "group" and "Mandalorian" don't really belong together on this site right now. Trust me, I wish they did. Too many egos that won't let go of things for reasons good, bad, or otherwise. Myself included. I'd let it rest for right now, personally.

 

[Darth Assimilus]

[member="Beskadala Ordo"] - Dont listen to [member="Obran Mereel"]. He's just a grump like me. If you got an idea go try it out and roll with what you get. I think your idea is very nice and has potential

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Obran Mereel"] [member="Kezeroth"]

No worries. I am well aware of the fallout of the ME and the like.

And I take advice from everyone. I am a new comer to this style and character type - so I look forward to any guidance. Orban has made some points to me in PM and I have heard from other folks.

So I shall elaborate here:

1. This idea is EXTREMELY DECENTRALIZED - IC'ly it is ripped right out of the show. Disparate, divided, separated covens of Mandos that network together into a single Tribe. OOC'ly its just a way to keep in touch with each other.

2. The Tribe HAS NO ALOR, IT NEEDS NO ALOR, THERE IS NO ALOR. The entire theme of this idea is division, loss, and survival. Mandalorians of the Tribe are survivors trying to survive but, keep their culture.

3. It is a super open group - initiates are allowed, but, veterans can RP their disdain for the dilution of the Resol'nare and culture too. Just dont let it bleed to OOC. RP that loss and strife don't project it.

4. It really is nothing more than a THEME - and everyone is welcome to explore it. NO faction, NO unified government or goal, it is just a Tribe. A Tribe of many Covens hiding out across the galaxy.

The potential is we have mnay active small covens (rather than large Houses/Clans) operating underground across many worlds that later can converge (when they feel ready).

For the mean time you can explore so many plot-lines - individual Coven operations, recovery of Beskar, inter-coven/tribe plots, the creation of Foundlings etc.

In general, this is a CLEAN SLATE, a totally new creation with a new motto and style - it is a DIASPORA TRIBE. We're survival and family is more important than creed and tradition.

 

[Obran]

[member="Beskadala Ordo"] - Anything Mandalorian I will check out. Just don't hate me if I bow out due to climate issues.

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Obran Mereel"]

Honestly, the idea came from plotting how my Mando gets back into the fold. She was there for the Civil War and after. Then F'd off to Nar Shaada to drown her sorrows in Deathsticks, cheap Bounties, fighting pits, and booze.

But, had the idea that one job - recovering Beskar from a Sith Trade Shipment kinds snaps her back to the family of the Mando - and maybe the idea of the "Tribe" materializes after holding those slabs of Beskar.

A thread I hope to RP at some point.

 

[Obran]

[member="Beskadala Ordo"] - I'm very much down for that. I have some backstory i'd love played out that i'm working on doing.

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Obran Mereel"]

For the thread the idea is a VERY OLD Mando - like in his eighties, last of his Clan, puts out one last "Call" for a bounty on a shipment of Beskar leaving Sith Space for either like the Core or whatever.

And everyone can RP how they know this venerable old Mando NPC - and that brings together a wide group of old mando. This kinda lays the grounds of the Tribe. Working together for the sake of this old and dying Mando makes even the broken feel like "well feth, is this what it used to feel like?"

 

[Obran]

[member="Beskadala Ordo"] - Tag me when it goes up.

 

[Careena Fett]

As [member="Kezeroth"] put it simply, the idea certainly has a lot of potential and fragmenting the system down to a decentralized one where there is no one person being greater than the other - we are all equal and one in the same. The idea of a fresh slate and clean start for the Mandalorians is always a welcome one until someone comes along to try and take the title of Mand'alor (And I can almost guarantee you that will happen again, because I am fairly certain no Mandalorian worth their Beskar'gam is going to take the Sith Emperor taking that title lightly) and end up pushing ideals that conflict with everyone else as a whole to once again divide them.

Here are my thoughts on the idea as a whole -

Pros
+ The concept of a Coven/Tribe being comprised of many Mandalorians from different clans has a lot of room for IC development and roleplay. Clans that were once at odds with one another and at each other's throats can come to an understanding that their very way of life and heritage is at risk and they need to set aside their differences for one goal - preservation and restoration of the Mandalorians. Personally I think the idea of a Tribe is great and one way to get over/rid of Clan names is just giving them a name like Native Americans do, something that is defined by their feats/deeds.

+ The removing of a centralized system of Alors/government makes for a lot less egos to be headbutting each other to force one clan's ideals over another. So long as you maintain that one cooperative goal/vision, they all have something to work towards - How they go about it is up to each of them, but the results of all their efforts lead to that one goal. Very few things have come from the Mandalorians having a Mand'alor, especially one that had views/ideals/actions that were extremely questionable to those who have a multitude of understandings/interpretations of what is and isn't Mandalorian behavior. While you will always have those types of people, the lack of Alors or a Mand'alor will certainly minimize it for a time.

Cons
- As [member="Obran Mereel"] also put, the clashing of egos from different Mandalorian writers may cause some IC problems. Ideas like 'Why would I ever consider myself working/fighting alongside this dar'manda piece of trash that got us all in this mess to begin with' are likely going to result in a lot of in-fighting until an extremely favorable/universal goal has been put in place that all people can get behind is found. You find one that isn't going to end in a powergrab for the title of Mand'alor and you don't even need to worry about this.

- Clean slates are awesome and all, but what are your plans for things once things reach a point where the Mandalorians don't need to hide anymore and are actively fighting back as a unified force (If they ever do reach a point where they actually are all unified)? What is going to be different about this compared to anything the Mandalorians have done in the past apart from being a story arc because I can certainly guarantee you that in the near/far future there is going to be another Mandalorian Major Faction. What will be the groundwork that you lay for that future and the legacy you want that faction to take up?

- You say this is just a theme and not a faction, but ultimately no matter how you look at it, is going to be one. You're asking any and all Mandalorians to partake in this idea. Assuming you do get a significant/hefty number of writers onboard, you're going to have to put together a faction to streamline things to make sure every Mando writer know's what's up, what's going on, when things are going to happen. It will certainly be a hub of activity that you are going to need a faction for to organize.


Please do keep in mind though that there are some rules in place regarding content from The Mandalorian in place, so try to avoid any direct ties or storyline defining/spoiling bits for the people who are waiting till the series end so they can just use the free trial for DisneyPlus to just binge it all. Things like the group and such are alright as it is ambiguous enough and already fairly similar to things found on Chaos, but do keep in mind that the show opens up a lot of EU stuff for Mandalorians in general so be just a tad bit cautious. Enthusiasm and hype is great, especially for getting something going that everyone will likely be onboard for, but there are some things to keep in mind.


[member="Beskadala Ordo"]

 

[Obran]

[member="Careena Fett"] - I like most of your points. As for a goal, at current it is a pretty simple one... Mandalorians as a people, outside of the Empire loyalists, are scattered to the wind and roaming. Reconnect. Forge new bonds. Build friendships and alliances IC to get a cohesive whole formed again. I assume at some point along the way we will tackle bigger goals (base of operations, military actions against the TSE, creation of some sort of coherent fighting force or whatever else) BUT for now, it's more important to get things working. IC and OOC need to be cut and not together. BUT we mando writers have done a FINE job of blurring that. Kinda famous for it really. So going slow, starting with the small time raids and social threads and the like, is the perfect step for *right now*. Once we can reliably do that, and have carved out a group of regular writers to depend on, we can look to being something bigger.

That being said.. I don't think we need to have a plan in place for later right here and now. This is just getting up and going. You don't need every little detail from start of the group to the end of it planned out. That doesn't work anyway, because as soon as you get to recruiting, whether actively or by passive nature due to people seeing you about and wanting in, it's gonna have to change. When new people/ideas come into place, that always and must happen as all members should have some degree of voice. People will show up to write with different ideas. You will interact with other groups in ways not expected. And that can and should change things.

I think, more important than planning all that out and putting the cart before the horse is to just get Mando writers on the same page, doing things together, and not murdering each other IC because of old grudges or OOC perceived slights or hating each other OOC for IC actions. And we've already experienced small hints of that since this was posted. Two threads planned and a few more ideas kicking between a half dozen or more people. All without a Faction page yet, or a Discord (though both will probably be smart eventually/very soon) or even public advert of either idea. I can only expect that to grow and snowball from here.

Also... Site rules stuff should be left to site staff, neh? Nothing she said even remotely approached spoilers, so we can let that rest easy. Unless staff thinks otherwise.

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Careena Fett"]

For sure! And I totally agree with you. The show is purely inspiration - I wont spoil or rip the actually story.

And as for the points, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The idea is to just foster a clean slate RP. RP the survival and underground themes of the Tribe. Organically and through RP not OOC jostling - development of this Tribe.

As for what happens when we no longer need to hide, frankly I'll leave that up to the folks themselves. Hopefully the RP and IC stories will guide what comes next after that.

In general the Tribe is not a substitution of the old ME or for having a real Faction. It's just a soft-reboot and story plot people can join.



SPEAKING OF WHICH: [member="Obran Mereel"]

- Here's one story now: https://starwarsrp.net/topic/150736-the-house-of-broken-steel-mando-open-thread/?p=1999596

- Premise: An old venerable Mando of the destroyed House Ori'Verd has put out a bounty on a shipment of Beskar traveling from the TSE to the Confederacy. The Mando's bounty instructions inform any Mando's who choose the job, to meet an old and forgotten Mando hide out in the countryside of Lujo.

- Feel free to ask questions here and to use this place as a OOC thread too for it.

THIS THREAD WILL ACT AS CHAPTER 1 OF THE LARGER "TRIBE OF THE MANDALORIANS" STORY ARC

 

[Obran]

As a note... Once the above thread is done rolling... A follow-up will be done. So.... Get ready

 

[Careena Fett]

No arguments with starting off small and building momentum, but it is important to have some sort of vision for what you want to steer towards in the future. While yes new ideas/people will come and go, it's not about how forcefully/fluidly you direct that vision, so long as there is one. There will certainly be points along the way that you choose to add and perhaps discard old/outdated ones, but so long as you move towards some semblance of an end goal, things will just be that more fluid ICly. There already is the goal of get the Mandalorians together again with a newfound trust in each other and a common enemy. How we go about it is completely up to all the writers, but that should be the primary goal at the end of it all and not one we lose sight of as we write our stories. Don't want to do all this wonderful buildup only for it to just be dropped on the floor like a stack of fine china at the end of it all. You'd want it to be put somewhere nice and in good hands for future people to admire the collective handiwork and base future efforts on.

Not much can be done for the people who blur the line between IC and OOC. Personally, I never understood how people get them mixed up together. IC actions result in IC consequences - my only disdain for people OOCly only comes from their behavior as a person and not their character - I could care less if the writer wrote their character as massacring children; if it fits the character react to the character not the writer. Which brings me to another point that some people would be wise to take after. Hate a character for what they do in character, not the writer for writing it.

I also only mention the rules because the site Discord has announcements from several staff, including the owner to avoid any spoilers/content being pushed through to the Codex/Factory or spoilers in general. Not saying that anything [member="Beskadala Ordo"] said is remotely spoilers, but if this idea is going to be based heavily on The Mandalorian, then there might be some things to be careful of when moving around. I know from experience that being too hyped for something results in people being a little too overzealous and not realizing that they are stepping into spoiler territory because they assume it would be common knowledge.

[member="Obran Mereel"]

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Careena Fett"]

You are very much correct about the vision - to be honest I just wanted to kick the ball and RP covens and underground Mando's outside of the reconquesta plots.

But, that doesn't mean the two are mutually exclusive. They can even blend into one another or assist one another. It is extremely malleable. The "Tribe" is purely a theme for RPing.

And I will of course be VERY mindful of spoilers. The Tribe is just inspiration - it'll operate within the context of Chaos. Not the other way around.

Like I mentioned in the post above "The Tribe of the Mandalorians" is a episodic story arc where each thread we RP is a Chapter in its story.

Honestly, its just one big multiple thread spanning storyline that acts like a novel almost - and we are all the authors. Thats the vision.


Btw Careena looks dope. I like the white armor. I hope I get to RP with her in the thread I posted.

 

[Obran]

[member="Careena Fett"] - We are on the same page at least. I think we should sort this arc out. If we can come togethet abd do that as a group without one of us blowing up a planet... Time to start a Faction & discuss the next steps at that point. Sound good?

 

[Startorn]

So I only have two problems with this, and it's not the idea it's how you started the thread, don't you think attacking a imperial fleet is a little much? Also I myself cannot join as I am apart of the Confederacy soooo, yeah that's about it

 

[Obran]

[member="Startorn"] - Didn't realize you couldn't be in multiple factions?

Also, it's a freighter... Not a fleet. Very doable either way, buuuuut...

 

[Beskadala]

[member="Startorn"]

Oh we'll just be taking on the frieghter. The escorts is fluff. We're going to ambush the shipment when it lands at a neutral space station.

Also, ah sorry my dude! I can make it like some random warlord instead of a real faction if you want to join?



Edit: I actually went and checked and I didn't mention where it's destined so you are all good my dude. I can just say its to some Imp Remnant or whatever.

 

[Startorn]

[member="Beskadala Ordo"]

Ok, but there is something kinda like what your talking about, if you go to factions and look at the minor factions there's a faction called Mandalor or something like that, we think of it more like a comm channel we all share, I would suggest you check it out