Approved Tech VOID | BHB-1398 Series Kardia | | Artificial Heart

[Zori Kapshan]

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OUT OF CHARACTER INFORMATION

• Intent: To create a neat-o heart for Agrippa and others.
• Image Source: Benjamin Louis
• Canon Link: N/A
• Permissions: N/A
• Primary Source: See bottom, there's alot.

PRODUCTION INFORMATION

• Manufacturer: Void Inc.
• Affiliation: Void Inc.
• Model: BHB-1398
• Modularity: No.
• Production: Limited.
• Material:
  
  Neuranium​
  Solarium Glasteel​
  Black Hole​

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

• Classification: Internal Organ
• Size: Small
• Weight: Heavy
• Resistances: Average
  • Energy (And other Blaster type weapons): Average
  • Kinetic: Average
  • Lightsabers: Average
  • Ion: Average
  • Other: N/A

OOC Meta
Simplified Descriptions

This item is like a fusion reactor that generates a small bubble of gravity around the host.

STRENGTH
Simplified.

• The device is a reactor that creates a lot of energy.
• The device creates a 1 meter bubble of gravity manipulation similar to a small AOE of tractor beams or repulsor beams.

WEAKNESSES
Simplified.

• Energy production, while theoretically infinite, is not instantaneously transferred.
• Gravity manipulation affects the host as well.
• Too much gravity = you can't move. Too much gravity = your bones break. Too much gravity = you're slow. Too much gravity = you can't breathe, your body collapses.
• Too little gravity = you uncontrollably float. Too little gravity= you can't maintain equilibrium. Too little gravity = Can't maintain friction.

SPECIAL FEATURES

• See Strengths & Weaknesses.

STRENGTHS

• The gravity within the Kardia's shell is so intense that the outer plating is nigh invulnerable to being meticulously tampered with - it is mathematically impossible for known materials to pry open the mirror shielding.
• It can provide theoretically exponentially limitless energy, at the cost of stability and usage of the infrared mirror.
• The Kardia has no currently measurable expiration.
• Provides the user a small 1 meter bubble of gravitic distortion that can be increased or decreased to combat against other forces that would manipulate gravity, such as the Force, personal tractor beams, high or low gravity environments, etc.
• There is an option for an external outlet to the powercell, allowing the host to use the BHB-1398 to charge external technology.
• The BHB-1398 provides both inputs for pulmonary arteries to attach to organic hosts and outlets to provide energy to inorganic hosts.​
• Can operate as a substitute for an organic heart when applied to organic hosts.​

WEAKNESSES

• The infrared receptor mirror technology will occasionally require maintenance and/or replacement, as required, though it is rated for 15-20 standard years of usage.
• The host will appear on almost every known spectrum of electromagnetic radiation detection, unless otherwise shielded.
• Energy produced is infinitely intense but can also be occasionally unstable, depending on the amount of gravitons and other exotic materials produced by Hawking radiation.
• May rarely cause temporal anomalies, corporeal distortions, that may affect both the host and it's environment.
• Has an escape velocity displacement field that, if disrupted, will cause the character to exhibit gravity that of 10^100, or a googol, of current Earth-like gravity within the bubble and only affecting the host.
• Will have unknown effects when exposed to other gravity field generators or temporal anomalies.
• As a safety measure, if the device is tampered or damaged, the oscillators of this device will stop working and the black hole will evaporate.

DESCRIPTION

Breaking The Equivalence Principle


As originally formulated by the Imperium Scientific Exploration Commission, difficulties can be presented in the following approach of the conservation of energy when dictated by the point principle or other classical principles. Conservation of energy, as determined by the Equivalence principle in it's general context of the Theory of Relativity, can be argued as the single most important bar raised for the generation of the same. Classical theories from my colleagues underline the same observables of this point particle, in specificity of it's position, energy, and mass within the confines of the pillared Equivalence Principle. Yet, when introduced to the quantum mechanics of a Black Hole, there has been a great deal of controversy when discussing the conservation of energy and the formulation of the principle spatially imposed superpositions of the Black Hole.

First, we need to identify how to generate the Black Hole - a creature of such great mass and energy that it operates as a spatial and chronal vacuum. It is assumed in this Institute as fact that black holes are not the summarization of the mass they induce, but rather great titanic anomalies that signify the location of a distortion of space, time and gravity. Using this knowledge, we can proceed further to assume that this distortion does not obey the observed laws that govern information in the universe, as dictated by the Mygeeto Simulacrum's Holographic Principle. Black holes are the one rebel of nature that deter and rage, warp and corrupt these learned lessons. In our data collected, it is observed that the function of a particle's mass and other masses would deter differently from the same gravitational fields that they would generate. It is here that, because of these determinations, do we reference once again the Equivalence Principle and it's subsequent sundering by these astronomical rioters.

With the assumption lifted that the principle of Equivalence does not equivocate naturally in the state of a Black Hole, it can be assumed that exponential gains and losses of mass and energy differ entirely with the fuel placed in such a quantum system. When inertial and gravitation mass are the same constant, introducing energy into this equation should - in a normal environment - always equivocate the output with the input. It is the Imperial Order's stance, however, that upon entering the Event Horizon - in conjunction with Hawking Radiation - that this is not the case and rather the opposite stands observed.

Gravitational Scaling Relations

How does one quantify the density and spacial reserve of an undead gluttonous star? Black holes at the terascale are natural relative phenomenons, but particle dense black holes are an uncertainty at even the scale that must accept that quantum principles cannot be ignored. At the planck scale, it is highly problematic for energies far beyond that of any ground-based particle to explore, as the highest energy that can be subsequently performed is would not require the density of mass that the construct could perform. This is when gravitonic energy, instead of mass, must be introduced artificially to accept as the new mechanism for judging density at the particle level, in addition to having the gravitational coupling lowered to a new fundamental energy level that would permit the modification of gravity at short length scales. Permittable levels of spatial dimensions, to allow for the construct to accept spacetime to form at the particle levels, is referred to as the bulk in this layman's exploration of the quantum generation of an artificial black hole. Though the data from large hadron colliders is sufficient enough to provide the spherically symmetric metrics to provide the gravitonic proximity of the actual space-time geometry, it can be severely constraining on the metaphysical requirements of the scale.

During the creation of the miniaturized black hole, it can be assumed at every construction that the density of gravity undergoes the following four phases, as described in the papers published by the Small Hadron Institute at the Csilla Scientific Academy:

1. Balding phase: Upon the formation of the black hole, it will introduce as a highly asymmetric object with guage field hair, generating massive amounts of Hawking Radiation and assimilating pair production at the highest of rates imaginable.
2. Spin-Down Phase: At the end of the balding phase, the highly spinning neutral black hole loses mass and angular momentum, with rates of Hawking radiation lowering slightly though still insanely high.
3. Schwartzchild Phase: At the end of the spin-down phase, the resulting spherically symmetric black hole now generates hawking radiation at mild levels and will continue to do so as it gradually decreases it's mass and increases it's temperature.
4. Planck phase: When the mass and gravitonic radiation levels approach the fundamental scale required for particle level, gravitonic coupling is introduced to stabilize the mass for as long as radiation is introduced for pair production.

Upon the destabilization of the black hole, concurring after a millenia or perhaps longer, it is the New Imperial Scientific Research Academy's thesis that the exponential event of heat death could occur if new mechanisms requiring theories in quantum gravity are not introduced to control the phenomenon. This would require new reflective coefficients to be installed as stop-gaps to reduce the anomaly through Hawking radiation until mass at the Planck phase has reached it's natural conclusive ending and the Black hole will cease to exist. Gravitational radiation would continue, though sparsed, throughout the Dark Heart construct in order to dissipate the gravity into energy through standard model particles such as scalars and fermions.

Utilizing the gap between the heaviest neutron stars and the smallest black holes begins to fill the unknown mysteries that prevented previous orchestration of miniature artificial black holes. Originally, the stellar mass equations did not previously allow for the size projects of black holes to fit on the Planck scale. However, due to recent breakthroughs in the field, alongside the evaporation of Hawking radiation to be known to reduce a black hole down to bursts of dark matter, it is known to be feasible to shrink a black hole while retaining it's information. Though this violates several principles on the physical level, on the particle level the quantum explanations of those principles - including the Uncertainty principle - remain intact. Because of this, the phases of the black hole are maintained, and evaporation can be safely distilled and altogether avoided by constantly feeding the artificial black hole through the means of a black dyson sphere.

Energetic Pair Production

It is this institute's finding that the pair production is the creation of a subatomic particle and it's antiparticle from a neutral boson. Upon the event horizon of the artificial black hole, pair production begins by removing the anti-particle and leaving the particle. Is this inclination to "steal" energy from the artificial black hole in a manner that generates radiation, due to Hawking radiation. For the pair production to naturally occur, the incoming energy of the photon arriving must surpass that of the total rest mass energy of the two particles, and the situation must conserve both the energy and the momentum of the original rest rate of both the boson and mass of the object. Basic kinematics dictate that in a natural environment, this should not be possible without quantum correction, which is provided by the black dyson sphere. This is defined, in this environment, as superradiant scattering. Superradiant scattering is caused by the waves bouncing between the infrared receptor mirror of the black dyson sphere, through the event horizon, then the ergosphere, and finally the curvature of spacetime within the void of the artificial black hole itself. With each bounce, and each phase that it passes through, the electromagnetic energy creates more and more pair production at an exponential rate - greatly surpassing the production of radiation contained within a fusion reaction of stellar mass.

An electron-positron-photon plasma and a quark-gluon plasma form around the black hole in regions called the photosphere and chromosphere, respectively. Occurring at different intervals, the temperatures reached in each plasma around the outer edges of the black hole result in thermal fragmentation, erupting in emissions of high gamma and beta radiation. Because of the law of conservation of energy, the proliferation of particles leads to a lower average energy per particle, which in turn leads to a lower output of temperature in the plasmas generated by both. To resolve this, several thermal absorption pads are placed within the Black Dyson Sphere to convert the transmissions into useable energy, while the infrared receptor array will utilize the Hawking radiation as the main energy source.

In addition to and in conjunction with, the rotational spacetime environment provided by the dyson sphere allows for all objects within the construct to propel in locomotive concurrence with the aforementioned spacetime. This happens in the ergosphere, allowing it to operate individually of the superradiant scattering mechanism, and allowing gravity to begin the generation of that rotational energy. This can be assumed that the momentum of the two pieces of matter when separated, one piece of the matter can escape - and the other remains. This is because of "negative-mass energy", and that while momentum is conserved, the effect is that more energy can be extracted than was originally provided - thus breaking the conservation of energy within the ergosphere. This is provided by the black hole itself, so while not a true break of physics, it is as close as one could get in science. This transference of energy will result in a exponential loss in the angular momentum of the black hole, though the black dyson sphere will perform the quantum calculations to reprioritize the gravitational momentum of the environment to safely prevent a total loss of momentum. The maximum amount of energy gain possible for a single particle equivocates to a 20% gain in energy total, per rotational loop, given any amount of charged mass inflation.

In summary, the energy production of the black hole can be described as thus:

1. Superradiant scattering of foreign waves.
2. Thermal radiation provided by Hawking radiation.
3. Penrose's process of rotational energy.

Black Dyson Sphere

Due to the nature of gravity within the sphere and surrounding the black hole, as well as the intense heat in which the sphere is subjected to, several neutrino oscillators are provided to help dissipate and rapidly hypercharge the radiation emitted within. Several panels of thin solarium glasteel are provided to help conduct, absorb, and transmit the radiation from the oscillators. This was mostly chosen due to their innate ability to be able to reduce the heat radiation, as well, as being able to withstand the intense pressure of the small chamber. The gauge coupling strength of the glasteel provides a distinct advantage in this environment, as the particle physics of the quantum interaction within the black dyson sphere provide the model that is most able to withstand the paradigm shift of the boson particles within. It is because of this interaction that the energetic exchange from radiation, dark matter, and gravitons are provided safely - as well as the ability to receive and bounce infrared radiation without evaporation it completely.

In addition to the glasteel that negates the thermal radiation, several thin layers of neuranium were plated on the outside of the sphere. This metal was chosen for it's density and properties of warping spatial spacetime, as well as it's ability to contain the gravitational anomalies created by the artificial event horizon and ergo sphere of the curvature contained within. While this doesn't entirely negate nor evaporate the effects of the gravitational anomalies, the neuranium is the best material derived to be able to handle the constantly changing environment. Because of the pressure induced on the sphere, once constructed, it is nigh invulnerable to break open with physical force. Quantum correction would need to be instructed and utilized, leaving the largest danger to the chassis itself to be the black hole's curvature of spacetime within. It is entirely possible that if too much energy were to be introduced to the curvature at once, the mass of the hole would increase to the size that it would swallow the black dyson sphere itself and begin to absorb the host. It is ascertained by this institute that the host would not feel any pain - the host would just simple erase from existence, forever mapped as information on the surface of the black hole itself.

Infrared Mirror Receptor

The weakest point of entry to the black dyson sphere is the fusion cell storage device and photobiomodulator, the Infrared Mirror Receptor. With functions applied to each of the solarum glasteel panels within the sphere, the Receptor is capable of sending infrared imaging shots and beta particles into the chamber to trigger the processes that both capture and generate the energy provided. The receptor is capable of storing up to 100 petajoules, theoretically - though it is unknown exactly what it's maximum capacity could be, due to the information shared with the spacetime curvature. This construct, aside from the energy storage system, is rather simple. Beta and infrared particles are introduced as a wave, which begins the superradiant process, which powers the rotation of the black hole, which succumbs to hawking radiation and the penrose process. Any energy in excess is sent back into the black hole, recuperating it's mass while fueling the quantum calculations needed to manage the safety of the density of the sphere. Another strange phenemonon is the gravitational aura provided by the receptor, allowing for a small exchange of influence surrounding the host and providing the capability to adjust that influence. For safety precautions, it is not recommended to allow complete control, as the host could accidentally succumb himself to the total stellar mass of the black hole. The amount of gravity generated could far outweigh the amount of gravitational influence any biological being could feasibly survive.

The receptor also provides a number of attachments, provided by this institute, ranging from pulmonary artery attachments that would allow for biological integration in a living host to external ports that would allow the host to expel charges of energy to other outlets.

Safety Warning

It is imperative that this institute remind the reader that this research is not recommended for field use. While inherently a powerful step forward in terms of energy production, the dangers of utilizing artificial black holes for energy are still too incredibly high. Though it is unknown how long the black dyson sphere can remain stable, and it is far more likely that the artificial black hole within resolves to eat it's host - and anything else found in it's path.

It is also suspected that gravitational anomalies, including those found outside of the spacetime curvature, are not only possible but likely.

OOC Meta

The weaknesses of this item can vary greatly, so we'll run through some hypothetical scenarios to help understand the limitations of the BHB-1398.

Q: A Force User attempts to break the Heart. What happens?

A: Well, the Force is an all powerful, mysterious Force with no real world equivalent. Force Pushes are described as "just happening" in the Wookieepedia, disregarding size, mass, density. It seems the limitations are based completely on the Force User, so it's hard to gauge what would happen. They could very likely succeed, bypassing gravity. This would understandably destroy your character, and likely result in player death - so, to write it, you might have the chassis of the device, the neuranium hull "fracture" or dent or become incapable of transmitting "as much" power - something to that effect. Similar to an actual heart.

Q: A lightsaber burns the heart, or the heart takes a direct hit. What happens?

A: Substantial force would need to be applied to break through the neuranium - it's noted as being able to withstand even lightsabers. I wouldn't be too worried about writing that damage off, you could still function with your character with it. Still, it's up to your writing and how you wish to interact with it, but I'd strongly advise suffering some sort of mechanical failure that causes the weaknesses of the device to exacerbate.

Q: I've increased the density of my mass shadow, projecting the weight of a starship on my character. What does that mean?

A: It means ideally, you exert as much force in the 1m bubble as a starship weighs - but that weight is also on your character. Imagine a X-wing falling on top of your character from a short height - not only are you projecting that outwards, you're projecting it inwards, too. If you'd like to survive the increase in density, you'd want to keep it to a small number of levels. This doesn't mean you can punch people with great force - because you'd have to swing your arm at the same rate you could in normal earth gravity, if you have the strength. You won't, so it's difficult to judge.

Q: What are the anomalies?

A: Whatever you want! It gets wild in the ergosphere of a black hole - theoretically. Limitless number of possibilities. The anomalies wouldn't last forever, but it could be a bit crazy - your imagination is the limit. Yes, they could experience object permanence.

OOC Sources

Beta Particle - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

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Black hole - Wikipedia

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On the Testability of the Equivalence Principle as a Gauge Principle Detecting the Gravitational t3 Phase

There have been various claims that the Equivalence Principle, as originally formulated by Einstein, presents several difficulties when extended to the quantum domain, even in the regime of weak gravity. Here we point out that by following the same approach as used for other classical...

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(PDF) Micro black holes in the laboratory

PDF | The possibility of creating microscopic black holes is one of the most exciting predictions for the LHC, with potentially major consequences for... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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Grand Unified Theory - Wikipedia

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Pair production - Wikipedia

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Physicists Verify Half-Century-Old Theory about Rotating Black Holes | Physics | Sci-News.com

Physicists from the University of Glasgow and the University of Arizona have experimentally verified a half-century-old theory that began as speculation about how an advanced alien civilization could use a rotating black hole to generate energy.

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Penrose process - Wikipedia

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Infrared - Wikipedia

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[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan , I've see that you've clearly put a lot of work and thought into this about energy production regulation.

I've got a few basic questions though before we delve too deeply into this?

1) This is listed as an artificial heart (and the picture looks like an artificial heart), but I don't see a lot about here about its interaction with biology. Does this work as a basic, simple pump then that's powered by a black hole?

2) How is the physiology of an organic body affected by this gravitational pull? Or should I say, how is it shielded from the effects of the intense gravity of this device? (Not only does the black hole produce gravitational pull, but so does its neuranium shell).

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Gir Quee

1. It's mentioned that it can be attached for organic hosts - I didn't want to go too into detail on the biology, because it's not really relevant other than "it can act as a substitute for a organic heart". Say the word and I'll throw down on explaining how it can be modulated to create the electricity to pump blood, but I didn't personally find it important to go into detail on, and it'd be kind of impossible to provide enough "filler" description for all the alien physiologies this could adapt to without handwaving it.

The BHB-1398 provides both inputs for pulmonary arteries to attach to organic hosts and outlets to provide energy to inorganic hosts.

2. In short, it's pretty much left to the writer to expand on this specific interaction, allowing for limitless story potential in how the item interacts with gravitational forces.

• Has an escape velocity displacement field that, if disrupted, will cause the character to exhibit gravity that of 10^100, or a googol, of current Earth-like gravity.
• Will have unknown effects when exposed to other gravity field generators or temporal anomalies.

Neuranium doesn't go into detail on exactly how deeply it can affect gravity, nor did I want to try and apply any definitions to it - but it was introduced as the shell because the only way I could determine to house hypothetical gravitational forces was with a metal that exhibits hypothetical gravitational force. Basically, if the neuranium shell were to be removed from the equation, the person would experience the googol of Earth gravity in an instant.

For relevancy, this article suggests that the greatest strongman on Earth could barely move under the constraints of only 4.6 times Earth's gravity.

To the human eye, I'd imagine the person would instantly disappear, compressing to smaller than a speck of dust, but scientifically speaking, I don't actually know. Would a black hole be left in his place or would it lack the energy to stay present, supernovaing the host's particles? Scientifically speaking, it's impossible to know, I think. So science fiction fills the gaps.

As for how the host is protected, the submission mentions oscillators using the energy provided to also provide "safety from the energy produced", including gravitons - the subatomic particles that provide the gravitational waves from both neuranium and the black hole dyson sphere.

This was mostly chosen due to their innate ability to be able to reduce the heat radiation, as well, as being able to withstand the intense pressure of the small chamber. The gauge coupling strength of the glasteel provides a distinct advantage in this environment, as the particle physics of the quantum interaction within the black dyson sphere provide the model that is most able to withstand the paradigm shift of the boson particles within.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

I know question 2's answer is convoluted, so let me try to paraphrase:

To counteract immense gravity of the energy producer, the produced energy + oscillators + immense gravity of neuranium is introduced.

Like the balance of two stars falling into each other's orbit. If balance is lost, catastrophe ensues.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan , the complexity of the science involved combined with potential issues on the board means that there's going to be a lot to unpack. Some of my commentary may appear nit-picky, but I want to be clear upfront that I think the basic concept of having an experimental power source that provide large amounts of energy and have some effect on gravity (more on this later) is entirely possible and something I'm willing to approve. We do have some things to hash out though.

The BHB-1398 provides both inputs for pulmonary arteries to attach to organic hosts and outlets to provide energy to inorganic hosts.

I didn't initially see this, but I think putting something like "Can function like a typical heart" somewhere in the description or the special features would be adequate. I do agree that we don't need to get super involved in a bunch of different alien physiologies.

In short, it's pretty much left to the writer to expand on this specific interaction, allowing for limitless story potential in how the item interacts with gravitational forces.

While I'm not interested in forcing you to write down the exact minutiae, we could really use general guidelines here. This is what I imagine when someone using this heart enters a PVP situation.

1) The user exhibits some power (either in providing high amounts of power for electronic devices or using gravity manipulation)
2) Opponent immediately seeks to damage the artificial heart in some manner; possibly applying some gravitational weapon of their own against it
3) ???Damage or ill effects occur???

This third step is something that needs to be discussed. What happens if it gets damaged? It goes without saying that a black hole might occur with catastrophic results, but there is some inbetween state where it might not experience catastrophic failure, but the wearer might experience some adverse effects?

As for how the host is protected, the submission mentions oscillators using the energy provided to also provide "safety from the energy produced", including gravitons - the subatomic particles that provide the gravitational waves from both neuranium and the black hole dyson sphere.

This is tricky because of this submission's power and potential for abuse.

Most things that we use to explain submissions are either going to be theoretical real world science or existing technobabble in Star Wars lore. If it doesn't, this starts to veer very quickly into violating the "All submissions need to conform to the general idea of Star Wars." rule. Can you provide me with a link or other reference to these oscillators?

Neuranium doesn't go into detail on exactly how deeply it can affect gravity, nor did I want to try and apply any definitions to it - but it was introduced as the shell because the only way I could determine to house hypothetical gravitational forces was with a metal that exhibits hypothetical gravitational force. Basically, if the neuranium shell were to be removed from the equation, the person would experience the googol of Earth gravity in an instant.

For relevancy, this article suggests that the greatest strongman on Earth could barely move under the constraints of only 4.6 times Earth's gravity.

The specifics of neuranium are pretty vague but there is this noticeable line from the wookiee article:

Neuranium was so dense that some gravity-sensitive species noted its warping of the space-time fabric of gravity itself that a large piece created.

"Large" is a relative term, and maybe it's possible that the amount used on here isn't large enough to cause immediate, significant effects. But long-term, even minor forces can cause catastrophic effects if they are consistently applied to a body. Perhaps more immediately practical for our reasons, the ability to create a " small 1 meter bubble of gravitic distortion that can be increased or decreased to combat against other forces that would manipulate gravity, such as the Force, personal tractor beams, high or low gravity environments". If gravity is projected outside of the heart's shielding system here, its forces are being applied to the immediate area around it, including the rest of the user's body.

I'm going to reference human biology here a little bit, since as I think you've hinted here, alien biology is going to be theoretical and vague at best analysis.

The human cardiovascular system is essentially a pump system, and most people almost focus completely on the heart as the main piece of this system as the pump. Now with an artificial heart like this, many of the typical cardiovascular system issues with a heart are going to be gone - there will almost always be enough force present to pump; there were almost always be a consistent rhythm to provide adequate perfusion. But this doesn't address arteries, veins, blood vessels, and the blood itself. Gravity fluctuations like this are going to have some effects on this systems. Increased gravity is going to start pulling blood through the vessels back to the heart. Reversing flow like this is not good for perfusion, meaning that we'd likely see a bunch of areas going without oxygen, which leads to tissue damage and death. Conversely, projecting low gravity means that we may see issues with a user's senses (especially balance), and in long-term use (based on astronaut studies) see decreased bone density and muscle strength. If we're talking about projecting gravity away from this heart, there's also the obvious issue of it pressing the user's own body tissue outward - which has almost unnumerable problems, from creating wounds and fractures to the halting the ability of the lungs to properly fill up on air. There are probably countless other possible and/or likely effects on a human body from different elements of gravity being applied to a human body.

I'm pointing these issues out not to say that you can't create a heart that can create interesting gravitational forces on a person, but that if you do, safety constraints are going to limit the amount of gravitational force available to combat other external forces. It's entirely possible that there are gravitational forces out there that would be capable of overpowering this heart past these safety constraints. I think your strength for this area should be focused more on its ability to allow the user to better adapt to different gravitational environments, rather than having combat-based effects.

Will eventually, after trillions of years, lead to the heat death of the universe and the largest explosion imaginable.

This is probably correct from a theoretical scientific standpoint, but it's going to run afoul of the no superweapons rule of the board. Please remove this.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

the complexity of the science involved combined with potential issues on the board means that there's going to be a lot to unpack. Some of my commentary may appear nit-picky, but I want to be clear upfront that I think the basic concept of having an experimental power source that provide large amounts of energy and have some effect on gravity (more on this later) is entirely possible and something I'm willing to approve. We do have some things to hash out though.

FOR SCIENCE.

I didn't initially see this, but I think putting something like "Can function like a typical heart" somewhere in the description or the special features would be adequate. I do agree that we don't need to get super involved in a bunch of different alien physiologies.

For the sake of clarity and transparency, I'll be adding it as a separate strength to really drive your request home.

While I'm not interested in forcing you to write down the exact minutiae, we could really use general guidelines here. This is what I imagine when someone using this heart enters a PVP situation.

1) The user exhibits some power (either in providing high amounts of power for electronic devices or using gravity manipulation)
2) Opponent immediately seeks to damage the artificial heart in some manner; possibly applying some gravitational weapon of their own against it
3) ???Damage or ill effects occur???

Naturally someone's gonna wanna break it, but it's described as nigh invulnerable. I theorize much farther below that a Force User stands the best chance of doing it, because below I'll argue that the Force =/= gravity, and could likely handwavium it's way past the real-world defenses of the device.

However, destroying it would likely resort in instant player death for the host - which is against the rules if it's a player character. So, like any other normal heart, destroying it would destroy the character - it'd just be more interesting to write this device's destruction than it would for a human heart.

I hope this suffices for an explanation of why I'm not worried about #1 and #2. I will address #3 in a separate post, as this one is getting to be a bit much.

This third step is something that needs to be discussed. What happens if it gets damaged? It goes without saying that a black hole might occur with catastrophic results, but there is some inbetween state where it might not experience catastrophic failure, but the wearer might experience some adverse effects?

I agree, and will comply, see my next response for the addressing of this topic. I'm going to continue on to the other points you raise, but we'll circle back to this one quickly.

This is tricky because of this submission's power and potential for abuse.

All subs are, the Force is, all writing is - but that's the easy answer to an obvious statement. I'm totally down with applying as many weaknesses as deemed necessary to pave the way to explore theoretical science.

Most things that we use to explain submissions are either going to be theoretical real world science or existing technobabble in Star Wars lore. If it doesn't, this starts to veer very quickly into violating the "All submissions need to conform to the general idea of Star Wars." rule. Can you provide me with a link or other reference to these oscillators?

I'm going to first focus on the "conforming to the general idea of Star Wars", then I'll address the oscillators.

Here are items that create similar effects to this heart that are not only available in Star Wars, but are commonplace.

Interdictors create gravity wells.

Spoiler

Simulating the gravity anomaly (mass shadow) of a planet - that pull starships out of hyperspace. As far as I know, they can be mass produced in Star Wars.

Artificial gravity wells became common place (basically the same as interdictors, and used on interdictors.)

Spoiler

with the superweapon Centerpoint Station being rumored to be able to hypothetically shut down the entire Galaxy's ability to use hyperspace routes using gravity.

The Hapan Battle Dragons had pulsematter mines.

Spoiler

demonstrating the ability to miniaturize the effect of creating these gravity wells, with similar effect, as they are described as "small enough to fire from a weapon's tube." These mines were able to simulate the gravitic mass large enough to pull battlecruisers out of hyperspace.

Artificial gravity generators. Every starship seen in the movies has one of these, and all of them are able to pinpoint their gravity or create a "bubble".

Spoiler

They're described in the wiki as being able to both push and pull. As seen in the movies, they can even do so in hyperspace.

And then you have tractor beams. Extremely common place. The first instance we see in the very first Star Wars movie.

This is my case for why weaponized gravity not only conforms to Star Wars, but it's a core part of Star Wars.

Can you provide me with a link or other reference to these oscillators?

The items themselves, no. I didn't deem them important enough for their own submission, it's just technobabble (theorized use) for the safety regulation of the gravity well, the mass shadow, the artificial gravity, the gravitic density the device can create in that 3 meter bubble.

There's this, though. Basically, Star Wars got to it before I did by assuming that for common place items like tractor beam technology - there would be an equal and opposite technology created to counter it, similar to how I did with neuranium/oscillators to the gravity well/black hole produced inside the device.

It was even so accurate as to literally stop a person from hemorrhaging in Legends, and is also described as common place as tractor beams. Honestly, I could replace "oscillators" with a pressor field generator if requested to, but I don't see it important enough to change up the technobabble.

The specifics of neuranium are pretty vague but there is this noticeable line from the wookiee article:

Yes, I referenced the same line. The reason it was chosen was because black holes cause such large gravitational effects that they are described as curvatures in space-time - which is why the anomalies are described as a weakness, and why neuranium was chosen to be a counterweight.

"Large" is a relative term, and maybe it's possible that the amount used on here isn't large enough to cause immediate, significant effects. But long-term, even minor forces can cause catastrophic effects if they are consistently applied to a body. Perhaps more immediately practical for our reasons, the ability to create a " small 1 meter bubble of gravitic distortion that can be increased or decreased to combat against other forces that would manipulate gravity, such as the Force,

For the sake of purposes of "the Force", which drives us head first into the realm of science fiction, I just want to state that I don't think we should use it in comparison to gravitational waves. The Force is it's own thing, and wouldn't be counteracted by gravity directly... I don't think. We've all seen the Force countering gravity (Leia flying through space, Rey grabbing a spaceship during takeoff, Luke lifting an x-wing) but I've never seen a gravity wave directly fight against the Force. I'm not sure. Does the Force control the gravity? Is it's own thing? The mystery, I think, is there and intact. No amount of science can really combat the Force directly, imo, but given how subjective that topic is I'd rather not touch it with a ten foot pole because nobody is going to end up being correct.

For example, if someone were to Force push the host of this heart, the host couldn't "gravity push" back to counter the Force. The Force can't be countered like that, I'm not aware of anything supporting the idea that it could be. For all intents and purposes of Star Wars, I imagine the Force itself would just ignore it, but again, that's just my opinion and it's equally easy to say it would because there's no real basis for it other than the imagination.

personal tractor beams, high or low gravity environments". If gravity is projected outside of the heart's shielding system here, its forces are being applied to the immediate area around it, including the rest of the user's body.

That's the intent, yes. The user's body would be subjected to the amount of force exerted. For example, let's continue the idea that the host is Force pushed. I've suggested that, theoretically, the host could increase his gravity's density to the point that he could not be moved in response to the Force, or be considered the weight of a starship, or a skyscraper, and the Force User applying that amount of Force would have to increase their strength on the push to accomodate.

It's also been suggested, to the writer that this was built for, that the host could increase their density to the point that they weigh so much they could fall through a planet.

The downside to this is, their organs, their bones, etc. would be subjected to that same force. Doing so would have detrimental effects, like standing naked at the bottom of the ocean with all of that weight and pressure folding the host into a thin square of paper.

Another downside is, let's theorize they actually survive increasing their density to the point that they'd start breaking through the planet's crust and tectonic plates and iron cores, etc.

They also fall through the planet.

I'm going to reference human biology here a little bit, since as I think you've hinted here, alien biology is going to be theoretical and vague at best analysis.

The human cardiovascular system is essentially a pump system, and most people almost focus completely on the heart as the main piece of this system as the pump. Now with an artificial heart like this, many of the typical cardiovascular system issues with a heart are going to be gone - there will almost always be enough force present to pump; there were almost always be a consistent rhythm to provide adequate perfusion. But this doesn't address arteries, veins, blood vessels, and the blood itself.

Not to mention muscular deterioration, the pain felt from your nerves collapsing, etc.

Gravity fluctuations like this are going to have some effects on this systems. Increased gravity is going to start pulling blood through the vessels back to the heart.

Probably a good thing if you're falling through the planet as it'd probably take a day, maybe a week or so to do that. You're likely gonna wanna die prior, this is a nice out.

Reversing flow like this is not good for perfusion, meaning that we'd likely see a bunch of areas going without oxygen, which leads to tissue damage and death. Conversely, projecting low gravity means that we may see issues with a user's senses (especially balance), and in long-term use (based on astronaut studies) see decreased bone density and muscle strength.

I don't think we'd be seeing more than just a roleplay thread's worth of time of use of this device manipulating gravity. I don't think "living in space for a month" IRL equates the use-case for this device, I think that's a bit extreme - especially when you consider that the same artificial generators linked above and used in Star Wars prevent this from actually happening. I don't believe there's any reason to believe we can hold writers to that sort of long term effect, either. If they didn't slowly become decrepit over time, could the player be reported and this submission rejected? I know that's hyperbole in response to hyperbole, but I just don't personally see the need to address long-term effects of using the tech. I'd prefer actionable weaknesses, such as those provided (and suggested) for immediate repercussions in role-play threads. If a player character suffers from this device in pvp, the effects would likely be more instantaneous, so I stuck with immediate repercussions - those that could expand on the story in a succinct manner.

As for long-term effects, I'd rather leave it up to the writer, due to so many unknowns and not wanting to create a device that will force player death.

If we're talking about projecting gravity away from this heart, there's also the obvious issue of it pressing the user's own body tissue outward - which has almost unnumerable problems, from creating wounds and fractures to the halting the ability of the lungs to properly fill up on air. There are probably countless other possible and/or likely effects on a human body from different elements of gravity being applied to a human body.

Yeah, that's kind of why I prefer the idea of leaving it open ended for the writer to interpret. None of these things would win an Invasion, cause a report, give you extra posts in a Dominion - they're all just sciencey after-effects. Most of which are real world examples - so I'd prefer to leave it to the writer's interpretation of it's after effects. Similar to how every Sith can determine the effects of using the Dark Side on their body without getting these actions approved in the Factory.

I'm all for doing our best to explain the science fiction and make it seem immersible mad science in Star Wars, so ideas are great to present - but I didn't want to hardcode that much into the device. These effects are as open to interpretation by the writer as they are for you (Factory Judge) and I (the submitter.).

I'm pointing these issues out not to say that you can't create a heart that can create interesting gravitational forces on a person, but that if you do, safety constraints are going to limit the amount of gravitational force available to combat other external forces. It's entirely possible that there are gravitational forces out there that would be capable of overpowering this heart past these safety constraints. I think your strength for this area should be focused more on its ability to allow the user to better adapt to different gravitational environments, rather than having combat-based effects.

I've told the writer, and anyone using this, that they shouldn't go on Interdictors and they definitely shouldn't visit the Maw.

The 1 meter bubble is arbitrary - we can reduce or negate it altogether if you see fit to do so.

This is probably correct from a theoretical scientific standpoint, but it's going to run afoul of the no superweapons rule of the board. Please remove this.

Removed the theoretical heat death.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Can operate as a substitute for an organic heart when applied to organic hosts.

The above strength was applied as requested.

1) The user exhibits some power (either in providing high amounts of power for electronic devices or using gravity manipulation)
2) Opponent immediately seeks to damage the artificial heart in some manner; possibly applying some gravitational weapon of their own against it
3) ???Damage or ill effects occur???

Basically, I want to just provide a manner of "hypothetical weaknesses" to answer this issue, given randomized situations, to give the writer an "idea" of how to respond. A writing prompt of weaknesses and reactions the device could encounter.

Before I do so, though, would this suffice to resolve your issue with #3? I only ask because, I don't want to delve too heavily into hardcoding more weaknesses on PVP without severely constraining how a writer could interact with the situations that might arise due to this device.

I say this because, the device is intended to provide character depth, ultimately. Nothing can happen with this device you couldn't already do with the Force, and is already much more limited with several of the hardcoded weaknesses already available. However, if hardcoded weaknesses is what you want, I would use a human as a baseline and write you a few that would definitely suffice, but I'd ask that you please reconsider before you deem it necessary to do so.

Let me know what your decision is, and I'll sprinkle some compliance on it shortly after.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan

Basically, I want to just provide a manner of "hypothetical weaknesses" to answer this issue, given randomized situations, to give the writer an "idea" of how to respond. A writing prompt of weaknesses and reactions the device could encounter.

Before I do so, though, would this suffice to resolve your issue with #3? I only ask because, I don't want to delve too heavily into hardcoding more weaknesses on PVP without severely constraining how a writer could interact with the situations that might arise due to this device.

Absolutely. I too do not want to see using writers get absolutely boxed into roleplaying certain actions. That's actually one of the reasons why I'm asking for it, because as I see it right now, they have two options:

1) Take no hit to this system (which can lead to accusations of power-gaming or poor judgement in invasions)
2) Take a hit and completely die

I don't think that either of these are really optimal outcomes for the writers involved.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Gir Quee

I've added a "OOC Meta" section to cover hypothetical weaknesses, let me know if there's anything else you think should be added and I'll address them there.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

I've also added a "OOC Meta simplified description" area that re-explains the strengths/weaknesses of this item, but in simpler terms for the writers to understand the basics of this item in pvp.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Added new weakness:

• As a safety measure, if the device is tampered or damaged, the oscillators of this device will stop working and the black hole will evaporate.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan , sorry I haven't replied sooner, I've been doing some research of my own to make sure I understand everything and to think of some possible solutions to what we've been talking about:

As a safety measure, if the device is tampered or damaged, the oscillators of this device will stop working and the black hole will evaporate.

You beat me to it, but this was something I was going to suggest to give people some middle ground in taking damage. This has the obvious issue of also stopping the user's heart. I'm not sure if that's something you want to add into the weakness, or potentially give them an emergency reserve battery/power source somewhere to give the user a little bit of time to fix themselves or get some help.

I like your OOC meta addition to this as well, though it does blur into another area I need to cover with you:

Resistances: Very High

• Energy (And other Blaster type weapons): Very High
• Kinetic: Very High
• Lightsabers: High
• Other: Susceptible to ION damage.

From the rules:

Ratings found on templates should balance. For every increase you should either reduce the production value, reduce another rating or provide balance with a genuine, significant weakness.

There's no overall resistance rating; each resistance (energy, kinetic, lightsaber, etc) works as a separate value for balancing purposes. So for balancing purposes aside from resistance ratings we have:

Limited Production: -2
Small: +1
Heavy: -1

This means that we currently have 2 ratings to spend on increasing any of the resistances above "average". I see that you listed "susceptible to ion", which is something that we can add as a resistance rating for balancing purposes. If we give that a negative rating like "low", "very low", or "none", that gives us respectively a +1, +2, or +3 points to spend respectively on buffing some of these other ratings. Obviously, depending on what rating scheme you use, some of the writing within the submission itself may need to change to reflect the values you choose for ratings.

I think that I have also found a canon solution to the issue of gravitational force from the black hole exerting itself on the body: Micro-Repulsor chips. Essentially, these tiny devices can theoretically project an anti-gravity force against the black hole to cancel out the gravitational force incurred by the black hole. This obviously becomes an issue if they suddenly don't get power, but if the black hole itself cuts out like you've just stated, it's no longer an issue.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Gir Quee

Is it okay if I just average out the resistances across the board?

I really just don't think the rating number values will ever impact this, or any other, submission. I've never seen a duel resolved because "well, my rating was higher on my factory item." I'm not attempting to be combative, just evasive, but I'll tackle it I guess if you ask me to not average it out.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan , by all means, absolutely. I don't think anyone is going to object to something that's average (and technically underpowered).

Things on the board currently (from little I've seen of it) do seem to be much more relaxed than at certain times in the past. However, I have seen in the past where people have compared ratings when they've had OOC disagreements about results/actions in roleplays.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Gir Quee

Yeah, if that happens I’m perfectly okay with folding to the writer/RPJ.

If someone argues ratings and numbers via RP with me/the host of this device, they need the win more than I.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan , awesome, we're nearly done.

Other: Susceptible to ION damage.

"Susceptible" technically isn't a rating. If you want, you can simply delete this, or change it to something like "ION damage: Average", "ION damage: Low", etc.

 

[Zori Kapshan]

Gir Quee

Done.

 

[Gir Quee]

Zori Kapshan approved!