What Next?

[Valiens Nantaris]

Though I’ve been a member for quite a while, I’ve never paid a huge amount of attention to the inner workings of the Sanctum.

I would first like to sincerely thank [member="Coci Heavenshield"] and [member="Thurion Heavenshield"] for their kind assistance in my Dominion of Tygara.
I said I would repay the favour if asked and I stand by that.

However, looking over this faction and the forum in general, I’ve noticed little forward motion from LS after the event. Are there any future plans, is there any people actually here still?

Furthermore, I would ask the question; should SJO and LS merge? They seem like a compatible fit as they’re both decentralised light side groups against greater regulation and oppression. Perhaps that would give this faction a shot in the arm and help it get some steam again.

The reason I bring up this potentially unpopular topic is that staff are very much on the lookout for factions which are not keeping up with the flow, and I’d act before an ultimatum comes.

So is there anything we can do as a faction to keep things moving?

Thank you.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"] [member="Seydon of Arda"]

Honestly, I'd be all for a merge between our factions. I still very much consider myself part of both LS and SJO and know their inner workings equally well.

This would be a grand undertaking, of course, should we (our two factions) go through with it. We'd have to strike a balance between the two so that both memberbases can agree to it, as well as think of a new name, etc.

Were this to happen, we could potentially become sort of like the Republic (hear me out) with a non-Jedi "government" (loose term) and a Jedi off-shoot in the form of the Silver Jedi (rename?).

This is completely up in the air, and I wouldn't dream of doing anything that doesn't sit well with both factions, as well as [member="Coci Heavenshield"] who founded the Order. I may be Grandmaster and all, but it's her baby.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Thurion Heavenshield"]
Silver Sanctum? Levantine Order?

I'm not trying to push anything people think is bad, I just think there's safety in numbers with Sith and Primeval at the gates.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"] - I hear ya, brother. I'm all for a merge and think only good things may come from it, personally. But I won't involve the faction at large until we decide to officially propose something.

 

[Eun]

Furthermore, I would ask the question; should SJO and LS merge?

No.

In my mind and from what I could tell of its original intentions... Sanctum was just supposed to be that, a sanctum. It doesn't need to be foreword moving it just needs to be a safe part of the galaxy for people to have their own individual adventures and not get harassed by politics of the IC or OOC galaxy.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

I am about to go and cook dinner..

And I will have a think about all this while I do.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Katya Shorn"]
No problems, I understand this perspective.

The issue which may come up though is that LS, because it stays out of troubles and politics doesn't have a whole lot to do. Dominions and misc threads can only take you so far after all.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

I am neutral on the idea of a merger. Though if it happened, the end product would have to be something that's not just the Republic of Wild Space. And there'd have to be room for force-users who are not Jedi and who don't suddenly want to join them.



The problem with LS is that while it does an admirable job as a sanctum away from politics, it's...not really doing much. Maybe I'm missing something, but it's pretty inactive at present (and faction recall is a thing). Of course, it's not the faction's goal to be warmongering all the over place and going on imperialistic manifest destiny crusades (it not indulging in that sort of behaviour is its main draw). However, it cannot be a safe place for anyone if it vanishes from the map.

 

[Glade]

Speaking as Kei's writer here.

They do both have their place because they both offer something unique, neutrality in the LS, or a Jedi order that allows some freedom to breathe in the Silvers. So imho they are fine as is, I think that's important to add to start.

However if there was a merge, i've only had limited interaction with LS so excuse my brief summary of it:

LS - a neutral place that anyone can be a part of that stays out of politics, but protects their own, would that more or less fit?

The silvers for me are Jedi that try to help people, staying out of politics but not being afraid to step in if let's say their temple was on fire or lives were in trouble. It differs from the republic already because Kei would be hauled up for being himself (and has been) in the stricter republic setting.

I would personally like to keep the term Jedi in the name, because it's a big draw as an alternative, but I am not sure how that would fit for some here (like Nato for example). Sanctum Jedi, Jedi Sanctum, or Silver Sanctum? SS is more catchy but I think you lose something of a potential draw for new members if you do give up the idea of a Jedi faction especially with its own council.

Just my two cents PS the council doesn't only have to include jedi , it could just be a 'council' rather than a Jedi council. Or a Force Council, or whatever fits.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

Jedi Sancum

I... actually really like that name.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

Firstly, I believe this thread has began purely because of lack of activity. I am aware that you all know this and with the new rules it now has become a factor for this factions survival.

At this point I don't think LS should be considering merging, with SJO or any other faction, of their choosing but rather try and find a solutions to the inactivity problem. It is a great faction, and in the past very suited to those that form it's membership base, but now it needs to be proactive to stay afloat. I would hate to see LS go because, like stated already, it gives yet another alternative to those wishing to play Jedi or the like outside of the mainstream. SJO is a medium between the two groups in my opinion.

If, and this comes down to the leadership of LS, there is to be a merge, they may not necessarily wish to do so with SJO and that would be fine. Lets face it, some of your members do not consider SJO viable as an Order, let alone some place they would like to join. That is fine too, we all have our opinions.

If they (LS leadership) do consider SJO, then this would need to be discussed with SJO members firstly before we would accept to talk about merging and conditions etc.

I am not saying no to this, but I think I would like to hear from the leadership group before adding more.

EDIT:

Oh btw [member="Thurion Heavenshield"] SJO is your faction now, I am just helping out.

 

[Glade]

I... actually really like that name.

Thanks, seems a neutral haven type name. My failure to spell and eat at the same time notwithstanding

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

My failure to spell and eat at the same time notwithstanding

I just now noticed that.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

I agree with [member="Coci Heavenshield"].


The perinent question at this point aren't hypothetical merger talks (if a merge happens somewhere down the line, there'd need to be ooc discussions on both sides and IC development to make it happen in a viable way that does both groups justice), but drumming up activity to keep LS afloat.


Ergo I'd suggest focusing on that. I'd say there's several avenues for that, in terms of faction threads, even group training threads and so on. It all depends on which direction we want the Levantine Sanctum to go, now that Akala's netherworld antics are over. After all, Free Space offers plenty of opportunities for adventure. Needless to say we could also work out joint plotlines with SJO in the process.

 

[Judah Dashiell]

I wouldn't mind more adventure threads. Any activity at this point would be an improvement.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

What [member="Judah Dashiell"] said.

 

[Kaia Starchaser]

More adventure! I have two alts here that love adventure, even if school has been eating these two muses.

Sad.

ADVENTUREEE
CHARLIEEEEE

 

[Arage Bao]

Honestly, I have always seen the Levantine Sanctum as an enclave. A place where people who like their slow-paced threads, their personal storylines, while also wanting to be part of something... bigger than themselves.

In that capacity the LS ain't dead, it's alive.

With that being said, I understand the danger of faction recalls, if staff is of the opinion that this sort of activity ain't enough to warrant a spot as a major faction.

I'd think then that the best course of action is to start focusing on trying to retain that Sanctum-vibe, while bringing out the activity.

With that being said, if the notion of a merger is ever put forward, I would stress that it is important that the Sanctum's attitude is forwarded in the new faction that is created. Namely that -anyone- can come here and set shop, as long as they don't make major problems.

As it stands the Levantine Sanctum has Sith, Dark Jedi, Jedi, Neutrals and everything in between, while the SJO is primarly a Lightside-faction. That is a thing that would have to be resolved.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

Well, since we've established that keeping LS afloat is a good idea, what are the suggestions to...get active again?

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Playing up the Sanctum aspect is the way to go. Since LS is not about war and conquest we should be helping. The Netherworld event left worlds ruined, the wars have caused homelessness and misery.

This faction is the perfect one to go to now neutral worlds, not to dominion them, but to help their inhabitants.

We could also create technology through the factory to help with this. We could even act as negotiators and arbitrators like the Jedi used to before they became part of an ideological war.

There’s so much that a non-expansion state like LS can do.

By all means revive the Flagship plans, but use them not to create a WMD but a home for displaced persons or a research centre.