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Aella Zorathe

Sith are by nature chaotic. It is the core of their faith that conflict is necessary, and thus they create it even if it must be created within if they are to follow their own beliefs. Anything else is to not be sith.

Where as Atrisia is law and order above everything.

Though the biggest difference remain the view of Force users ruling versus Force user suppression.
 
Do you not remember the Resurgent Sith Empire in ToR? They were a seemingly perfect balance of Sith and Imperial Order and Stability. It's not impossible, or against canon to have Sith that value Order and Stability above chaotic impulses, as long as those impulses are put to good use against their enemies.
 
Akio Kahoshi said:
Sith are by nature chaotic. It is the core of their faith that conflict is necessary, and thus they create it even if it must be created within if they are to follow their own beliefs. Anything else is to not be sith.
Sorry, Mr. Takayama, but that is incorrect. You are awarded no points. Conflict does not equal chaos.

The core nature of the Sith is domination and the expansion of own influence and power. It is selfishness and subjugation that comprise the core tenants of Sith belief. Sith can be orderly in pursuit of their objectives, or they can be chaotic. They are not obliged to do anything other than what they want to do.
 
Tyrin Ardik said:
Sorry, Mr. Takayama, but that is incorrect. You are awarded no points. Conflict does not equal chaos.

The core nature of the Sith is domination and the expansion of own influence and power. It is selfishness and subjugation that comprise the core tenants of Sith belief. Sith can be orderly in pursuit of their objectives, or they can be chaotic. They are not obliged to do anything other than what they want to do.
I think what you meant to say was

"I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
 
Kaine Zambrano said:
Do you not remember the Resurgent Sith Empire in ToR? They were a seemingly perfect balance of Sith and Imperial Order and Stability. It's not impossible, or against canon to have Sith that value Order and Stability above chaotic impulses, as long as those impulses are put to good use against their enemies.
Which is why half of what I remember from the sith campaign was sith masters practising chronic backstabbing disorder, defending yourself from other chronic backstabbers, or carrying out chronic backstabbing yourself. Yup, no chaos there.
 
The Sith spent the entire battle of Corellia indulging in backstabbing. Really it was a pile-up of gambits that, while terrifically amusing, squandered resources. Indeed you ends up fighting more Sith than Jedi. Separating the wheat from the chaff is vital, but by the time the Makeb campaign comes around the Empire is losing. I suppose its chaotic nature had something to do with that, since they could not keep it contained and terminate each other after wiping out the Jedi.
 

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Akio Kahoshi said:
Which is why half of what I remember from the sith campaign was sith masters practising chronic backstabbing disorder, defending yourself from other chronic backstabbers, or carrying out chronic backstabbing yourself. Yup, no chaos there.
More or less anecdotal evidence, and in no way is an indication that all Sith operated in such a fashion. Not to mention that the core tenants of the Sith are in fact, embracing passion (not necessarily chaos), whatever that passion may be - rather than denying their passions and emotions, as the Jedi instructed. That passion did not necessarily have to correlate with a negative goal or quest. Creating and maintaining galactic stability could be a passion, just as much as wanting to backstab your best friend for the lolz.

Another core ideal was conflict as a means to test ones own ability, and to grow in relative power from the experience. Conflict, to the Sith, is akin to a Star Destroyer captain who readily volunteers for combat duty so that he can remain a sharp and effective officer. They utilize the same principles, to different effect.

As I said previously as well, non-Force Users do not necessarily need to be treated as second-class citizens by all Sith. The Sith Order exists apart from the Sith Empire in most endeavors. The military is free to run their operations as they see fit, with little interference from their Sith aristocracy. The notable exception being solely when a Sith Knight or Master takes personal command of a contingent of military forces, for their own Imperial state business. And even then, the military is free to enact the Sith's will in whatever way they desire, with limited interference.

The Sith Empire is, contrary to popular belief, a particularly smoothly oiled and operated machine.
 
Akio Kahoshi said:
Which is why half of what I remember from the sith campaign was sith masters practising chronic backstabbing disorder, defending yourself from other chronic backstabbers, or carrying out chronic backstabbing yourself. Yup, no chaos there.
The Sith, more often than not, betray each other in pursuit of their own personal goals. They are not backstabbing for the sake of chaos, as you are implying. Chaos is a byproduct in this case, not an objective. Sith are chaotic by nature, that much can be proven true. It is not a core tenant of their belief system.

You are, again, awarded no points, Mr. Takayama.
 
Moira Skaldi said:
The Sith spent the entire battle of Corellia indulging in backstabbing. Really it was a pile-up of gambits that, while terrifically amusing, squandered resources.

I played the Sith Warrior story, and the only Sith killing I did was against Darth Bara's loyalists, who was trying to usurp the Emperor by falsely becoming his Voice, and this wasn't squandering resources. The Sith Warrior literally tracked down the individual members needed to be slain and murdered them and then left.
 
I like Atrisia and the Sith
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