Any other fleeters in this faction?

[Darth Ayra]

@Melakoth Tyrin

I can join you on your campaign.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

Thankyou, old friend. I hear you were quite a fleeter back in the day--care to join the space operations?

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

Perhaps you gents could handle the ground invasion? Perhaps one of you leads the attack on the planet itself while the other leads the capture of the orbiting facilities? It'd be really cool to have a triple battle going on.

You've got it.

As long as we'll actually be able to land ground forces planetside. I'm assuming they have defenses in place to prevent that. In which case it will be the fleet's job to punch a hole for us first.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Ludolf Vaas"]

Naturally.

 

[Darth Isolda]

If so, I was wondering if you'd like to take part in a large scale naval operation. I'm not sure how well fleeting is going to work after the reforms to the system, but I'd still like to give it a try. A while ago, myself and [member=[SIZE=14px]Cyrus Tregessar] launched a raid against the Republic's Kuat drive yards, but the RP fizzled out due to inactivity. These shipyards are too valuable to destroy, but the objective would be to capture the planet itself and use the shipyards for our purposes. [/SIZE]

Hmm, per the rules, for such a thing to work out it will have to be an invasion. Which we can do, but it isn't the current invasion we are planning. That would have to wait for further on on the road.

A raid or sabotage on the other hand will be a skirmish.


HOWEVER,

You can prob do a campaign not to "occupy" the planet, but to an attempt at occupying the Drive yards in it of itself.

Not a small feat mind you -- and hell with odds.

But that would leave other major factions to help out

 

[Judas of Vahl]

Perhaps it would be best to discuss this at length with the opposing side before rectifying points with people who are more likely to agree with you, bud.

This isn't a bad idea at all, it just requires more starting effort than most because you want it to have real effects.

@Melakoth Tyrin

 

[Darth Ayra]

@Melakoth Tyrin

Late reply, my apologizes. Is the thread up?

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Mordecai Zambrano"]
[member="Darth Isolda"]

Corvus Raaf has already posted the following in the Republic faction forum:

Hello, Republic scum! Myself and a few other Sithy buddies have decided that since we haven't actually had a proper fleeting battle yet, it's time for a showdown. The prize? Kuat drive yards. We attack it with everything we can muster, you defend it with everything you can muster, and hopefully plenty of fun is had along the way. Since this is a surprise attack, I'm thinking you guys could call in reinforcements in stages (since you already have massive planetary defenses on your side), so, for example, a new Republic player joins every 10 posts or so--it doesn't really matter, just so long as it's fair. Also, I was thinking to shake things up a bit, we could make the ground invasion tactical based rather than PVP, especially since so many people will be participating in normal faction invasions. Again, though, I'm open for debate on this topic. Anyway, I don't know how many fleeters you guys have, but if you're interested in a good old fashioned giant space battle, please let me know via PM.

I did consider a raid against the drive yards themselves, but I figured they would require the planet's infrastructure to work properly. Also, any ground based planetary defenses could fire on the shipyards themselves. However, if the Republic agrees, we can have a tactical ground invasion, involving only a couple of people commanding large numbers of ground troops and vehicles, and so it wouldn't need nearly as much effort as normal invasions.

@Melakoth Tyrin

Late reply, my apologizes. Is the thread up?

No, not by a long shot--still trying to sort things out with the opposition atm.

 

[Darth Ayra]

@Melakoth Tyrin

Apologizes, but what will be invading? Tl;dr would be nice.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Darth Ayra"]

• One Sith invading Kuat, which is held by the Republic.
• Fleeters will punch a hole through defences in order that ground troops be landed both on the planet and in the shipyards themselves.
• Invasion will hopefully be tactical, meaning it's basically PVE, with a couple of people acting as the commanders on each side.

 

[Darth Isolda]

@Melakoth Tyrin

As far as for an invasion, the faction admins and i don't mind --- however as an invasion this has to be discussed by the admins and then the admins are the ones to discuss the terms with the other faction's admins as per the "Warring faction rules"

So, if you are going along for a skirmish, that's fine --- but it is unlikely that an invasion would be anytime soon as we are currently in discussions with the Republic over another different planet we are doing. ( Which one of the objectives WILL be fleeting! )

However, a skrimish will not determine planetary control of the planet. The current rules do not allow that as an option.

However, let's see what we -can- do .

A campaign attempting to hit various republic shipyards can certainly be fun. But instead of just focusing on Kuat -- we can focus on smaller shipyards to raid and sabotage.

All of which can actually lead into an awesome storyline to an eventual invasion. Does that make sense? and that way done at a time where we can focus all of our forces in it instead of splitting it into two invasions.

Like right now there are other smaller drive that can certainly give some interesting things to flesh out.

Rendili
Mon Cal
Etc


I think Rendili will likely be a better option, as it isn't a AA type heavily defended world. Plus it would hit the republic also in their resources.

How does that sound?

 

[Darth Ayra]

| [member="Darth Isolda"] | [member="Melakoth Tyrin "]|

This is essentially what I wanted to write and you can see my ideas in this other thread. I didn't realize Melakoth already had a plan in the works, yet he still has my full support.

 

[Darth Isolda]

So, in a nutshell -- write up the terms for an eventual invasion of whatever shipyard planet you would like. I'll toss them up to the faction admins and then once our current invasion is over, we can certainly bring those up for the next invasion

In the meantime, building up to it would be awesome for infiltrating and gathering info to get them from the inside for said invasion.

 

[Darth Ayra]

[member="Darth Isolda"]

Sorry, it's a pretty stupid question, but where are we invading next?

 

[Darth Isolda]

The terms are still being discussed, but I see no reason to not relay what it is.

Manaan

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Darth Isolda"]

I understand your concerns about styling this as an invasion, but if all participants, including the admins, agree to make it a non-PVP invasion, as I suggested, this could still remain a relatively small event in terms of player numbers. A campaign attempting to hit multiple shipyards would be much more difficult to do simply because people would get bored and the whole thing would trail off.

If I can elicit sufficient interest in the Republic, and if you find the plan for a tactical invasion agreeable, I am happy to talk to the faction admins myself. As I said, I have already been in contact with Corvus, who has not expressed any concern. There are no rules suggesting that invasions have to be PVP--that would be a really dumb rule if it did exist--but even if it did, RP rules are designed to protect the RPing experience of the participants. If all the participants agree to the terms, there still shouldn't be a problem. I'd still find a single big thread preferential to a campaign, simply because there are so few fleeters about and getting them to all stick around for an extended period would be impossible.

 

[Darth Isolda]

It doesn't have to be multiple shipyards -- it can start with one and grow from there within the thread.

IE. Start with a smaller shipyard like Rendili

As for invasions, not all invasions are PVP -- but by default they can be. Either PVP in objectives to overtake things ( IE to sabatogue or over take some area) or by the fights people assume will be used to tabulate if an area is being overtaken by a certain side. By essence, how else does one determine who has effectively managed to "take the flag" so to speak of an area?

But none the less, what is your idea on how to present the objectives and how said objectives are won in this type of invasion?

The One Sith Staff are all for promoting ideas from our members, and this certainly sounds awesome. I want to encourage the fleeters because they are very important to us as a whole!

But as a way to be more inclusive of everyone (Because we will have an invasion coming up soon that will need our fleeters to fulfill a fleeting objective ) and to fulfill the warring faction rules ( make sure that there are no miscommunication at all on what the objective of the thread is, how the objective is won, and how many can participate) I just want to make sure that every t is crossed and i dotted.

I know you have been working with Corvus, but Corvus is also one of four Republic Admins. Has she discussed this with them as well?

(I ask because just for Manaan all the faction admins discuss with all the faction admins of the Republic so everyone is in the loop because it is an invasion)

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Darth Isolda"]

I have not actually discussed this much with Corvus--I simply PMed her asking if it was okay if I joined the faction temporarily so I could post the interest check, she suggested instead that she post it for me and did so. So far, I have had no PMs expressing interest in this event, so I wouldn't go about discussing this with faction admins and going into the finer details of the ground invasion until we have sufficient interest. I am pleased that so many people have signed up for this on our side, however there is nothing to say that the same will be true for the Republic.

 

[Iroatas]

@Melakoth Tyrin

I would be interested in doing this.

A few months ago Darth Acarus roamed on the fringes of Republic Space with a small force at his back.

Did like 3.

3-0 bb

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Darth Acarus"]

Wonderful!