Change the Ship Size restrictions for Individuals and Companies

[Arage Bao]

I make a new character and start a minor faction. Said faction only has one member - me. I sub a Star Destroyer and say it's affiliated with said faction. Then I create another minor faction and sub another Star Destroyer. Rinse, repeat. Admittedly at some point it will get absurd.

Unless I am misremembering the rules it is even more lax than that.

One minor faction can be affiliated with an infinite amount of 2000m ships. They just need to be PC-captained. So you don't even need to create a new minor faction.

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Honestly, this entire discussion reminds me a lot about the whole Master-rank debate. Some people argued that it would end the site as we know it (which it didn't), but a lot of people also kept trying to force their standards on the entire community. In the vein of: "I like doing it this way, so everyone else should do it too." or "I have had to do it this way, so everyone else should do it like that too."

Its similar here in my opinion.

"Everything should be a 100% logical story in my eyes, so everyone else should adhere to it too."

Sure. People can believe that. But I have never really understood that logic. How does things like this influence you? Why does it matter if a writer is controlling a 2KM star destroyer by themselves? It doesn't auto win them any battles. You don't need to accept the hits they make.

It literally doesn't matter to anyone, except to them. Because its their story they want to write.

Also what [member="Darth Vesper"] said. Good writers adhere to the unspoken understanding in the community. That is why they get all the good stories and people gravitate towards them. Bad writers always try to get every advantage and win everything. Its why they are shunned. We don't need rules for that. It is the basic gist of how Chaos regulates itself and always has.

Restrictions should be lifted. People should write what they want and nobody should force their standards onto them. We are literally writing in a setting with space monks waving plasma sticks. Where the main villain of the setting had a moon that shoots a death star at planets. People looking for economical sense and logic are really in the wrong setting here in my opinion.

So, yeah, that is my two cents.

 

[John Locke]

[member="Darth Vesper"]

Well, you guys have made pretty solid points allaying my concerns so I'll happily switch my vote around. I'll trust in the community too.

Thank you all for the debate and answering my concerns logically

 

[Gilamar Skirata]

All this being said, I have a strong feeling the big man who shall not be named is probably butting heads with Factory judges/admins right now about this very topic considering the Factory is moving towards a MUCH more lax structure and is still closed and we're approaching on 3 weeks now.

At least, that's something we can all dream about.

 

[Jsc]

This suggestion is fine.

There is. It's called respect.

This reply is everything.

 

[Aszräl]

I'm in support of the movement to loosen up the size-to-ownership restrictions. Part of my argument is that there are plenty of examples (even canon/"not" canon) of starships being run by droid brains, droid crews, skeleton crews, or even in extreme cases the Force alone.

I also agree that so long as we continue to respect one another, there won't be a rash of people going beserk glassing worlds and crap.

 

[Andorreth Vikar]

well glassing world is against site policy unless an event happens soooooo......

 

[Julius Sedaire]

If your biggest hangup on this board is that someone has a 2k ship and might somehow 'win' anything, I think you're likely looking for EVE and accidentally wound up on a roleplaying site. A quick Google search should fix that for you.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter. Fleeting is massively niche excepting for invasions (where it still arguably is), and even then everything below a certain size is ignored anyway. Why bother with arbitrary grind? If I wanted that I'd go kill 10 boars in WOW.

 

[Tefka]

The Factory, in its current state, is opting to deliberately not address this suggestion but I just want ya'll to know I've read it.

We're working on stuff, give us some time and then raise hell.

 

[Laira Darkhold]

This suggestion was admittedly done in case this particular odd restriction was overlooked (it has been in effect for as long as I can remember) during the refurbishment of the Factory. Figured might as well bring attention to it while stuff is being changed rather than wait and call for more changes shortly after the roll out.