Corrupting the Republic

[Yoru Shakou]

I have a little idea for those in the Republic that would be interested.​

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Personally I've always seen the Republic in its many variations (The Old Republic post 3,600 BBY, The New Republic, The Galactic Alliance, etc etc) as having been more corrupt than some of the other governments that had replaced it (The Galactic Empire, Imperial Warlords, etc) as those organizations never stood on the soap box of morality like the Republic did, whom also failed when it came to what they preached.​

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This idea thus, stems from this personal view on the Republic, which also extends to the Baroness, whom sees the Republic as being corrupt, mainly for their continued conflict with the Sith whom seek nothing more than to live their lives as they deem (which is often not how the Republic would demand.)​

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The main body of this idea would be to focus on those members of the Republic whom are feeling that there is something wrong with the Republic, and would be willing to accept outside help in a bid to change the system, or would like to leave the broken system all together.​

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This of course would require the cooperation of disgruntled Republic members. Are there any out there?​

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In terms of the length of such a plan, this would be a long term plan, focused on an outcome further down the line, with quick and short goals that would likewise be focused on preparing for a long term outcome of changing the Republic from within. Mainly to either destabilize it to ensure the continued survival of more Independently minded systems.​

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Anyone interested?​

 

[Tellos]

Depends if this is meant to take down the republic not likely. My republic characters wanna save it where possible.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

This of course would require the cooperation of disgruntled Republic members. Are there any out there?

We have two whole factions dedicated to it.

See: Silver Jedi/Levantines

 

[Yoru Shakou]

It's not entirely focused on taking down the Republic per say, as there would always be some iteration of the Republic no matter what Star Wars site you go to. This idea focuses more on changing the Republic to prevent it from being as antagonistic as it has come off as (at least as such in my own opinion / view). It would not be focused on removing it from the Map, just more along the lines of seeing its over all influence lessened to allow individual systems some semblance of power.​

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[member="Tellos"]​

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When I look at the Silver Jedi and the Levantines, I see Jedi focusing on changing Jedi. This idea would be more focused on Senators, Soldiers, Citizens of the Republic wanting to change the Republic, not focusing on the Jedi or Light Siders. This would be aimed at the every day people whom want to make a difference.​

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[member="Sarge Potteiger"]​

 

[Magoo]

[member="Baroness Magrath"]
As a pimp dogged by corrupt Republic officials who want nothing but to stop a poor innocent pimp from selling his merchandise, count me in on this. Nobody messes with A Pimp Named Magoo

 

[renegade solstice]

We have two whole factions dedicated to it.

See: Silver Jedi/Levantines

Highly doubt the SJO would help her in any form or fashion, besides.. if they did then I would most likely work against the clock to eliminate the Baroness here and her cohorts.

(sorry McGrath, nothing personal.. just this Rogue is sorta one to protect the republic than betray it.. even if its protecting it from afar.)

 

[Tellos]

[member="Baroness Magrath"] My soldier would be more likely to try to defend the republic donno how he'd fit in then.

 

[Yoru Shakou]

I hope you take no offense to this, yet I feel a strange crawling sensation when I see many of your posts. Any interactions would be strictly through intermediaries and nothing face to face. @A Pimp Named Magoo​

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The problem with attempting to eliminate the Baroness would be two fold. For one, it would be going after a private citizen seeking to help others choose their own future rather than continue to languish in a corrupt system. The second problem would be that (much like Palpatine) the Baroness' affiliation with the Dark Side is publicly unknown so going after her for that would be in its own way metagaming. Any contact with the Silver Jedi though would more than likely be done through middle men, however because this idea focuses on the common everyday person and not the Jedi Order that is fractured into multiple sects, it's very unlikely that the Baroness would be working with any of the sects. Also is Magrath, not McGrath.​

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[member="Haven Pryde*"]​

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There are many ways that a soldier can protect their government. The moralistic implications can be debated for long hours (though we wont get into it here). It could be something as simple as seeing that there is something wrong and wanting to change or remove the corruption to defend the ideals that the Republic was founded upon which the current government may not be following or may be twisting.​

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[member="Tellos"]​

 

[renegade solstice]

[member="Baroness Magrath"] Thanks for clarifying, Baroness.

and I meant no illwill or offense by that, just merely stating where Mallory's loyalties lie. But meh, good luck on the rp plotting and such.

 

[Tellos]

[member="Baroness Magrath"] Well my sergeant could join in he'd still fight the wars the Republic needs him to I am guessing this would be an aside issue. he has no issue with the republic being aggressive in influencing the galaxy hell he is from coruscant for him home fell with the sith so he's fighting now to protect his home. If he saw nay issue it'd be that the planet he calls home was lost by the Republic.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

as those organizations never stood on the soap box of morality like the Republic did

Right...so because the Empire never pretended it was just that was better? So it's fine for any tyrant or dictator so long as he doesn't pretend he cares?

If the Republic was guilty of corruption it was mainly because the SITH made it so, at least in the only real example we have fleshed out.

Let's not forget that the Empire and the Sith exterminated the planets, wiped out species, imposed speciest laws and stifled all opposition with violence. In contrast the Republic's corruption was mainly venality and run of the mill personal enrichment. Except the Sith, but that doesn't really count.

 

[Tellos]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"] I guess I'd argue thats true myself but I felt it'd be too obvious. Fact is the wars were never caused by aggressive republic efforts the sith constantly caused or incited events. The entire prequel trilogy is sidious's doing from the get go. The republic if anything spent an entire few decades without a real army just planetary or corporate armies of droids or soldiers with no unification. Hardly an aggressive force. I agree it's very corrupt in the typical political way and that can lead to problems weakening it from within but given the Sith tendency to try to propagate this I guess whats made me not commit is how do I balance my character trying to strengthen it by making it smaller?

 

[Magoo]

[member="Baroness Magrath"]
that means I'm writing him correctly. You don't get scummier than A Pimp Named Magoo

 

[renegade solstice]

Right...so because the Empire never pretended it was just that was better? So it's fine for any tyrant or dictator so long as he doesn't pretend he cares?

If the Republic was guilty of corruption it was mainly because the SITH made it so, at least in the only real example we have fleshed out.

Let's not forget that the Empire and the Sith exterminated the planets, wiped out species, imposed speciest laws and stifled all opposition with violence. In contrast the Republic's corruption was mainly venality and run of the mill personal enrichment. Except the Sith, but that doesn't really count.

The clone of Qui-gonn actually has a point here. :/

 

[Ellie Mors]

Let's not forget that the Empire and the Sith exterminated the planets, wiped out species, imposed speciest laws and stifled all opposition with violence. In contrast the Republic's corruption was mainly venality and run of the mill personal enrichment. Except the Sith, but that doesn't really count.

The Mandalorian people would like a word.

And the entire species of Vahla.

And several other genocided groups.

 

[Jsc]

The Republic on this website is also a player-driven, player-created, Staff-overwatched entity. This Republic is not, That Republic. This Republic is only as corrupt as it's players write it to be. This Republic only takes territory when it's players do. This Republic changes it's governmental procedures every time a new Faction Administrator gets elected by it's players.

I mean. It's kinda hard to hate on This Republic without also hating on the players who build, plot, dom, invade, factory, fleet, and shape it. So? If you're plotting to corrupt This Republic? Just get in touch with it's Admin team and pitch it to their players. As a group, This Republic is more than capable of steering it's own ship. *wink*

 

[Geneviève Lasedri]

Oh, this will be good.

I think it's time for a Senate Un-Republican Activities Committee.

 

[renegade solstice]

I feel for the Mandolorians that got their asses kicked by Revan, but obviously they werent true Mandolorians, were they?

 

[Yoru Shakou]

My view on the Republic (as mentioned) is just that. I had always seen it as having slipped from the beacon of light that it had been intended to be and had done so for a very long time. My personal view is that Sidious was correcting a wrong that had happened years ago, and he had managed to turn a rather corrupt Republic into an Empire that got things done (and I will even concede the point that the Empire in its own way was worst). To claim though that the Republic was only corrupt because of the Sith is a little blind though, as there was an entire few centuries there where the Sith had nothing to do with the Republic and it got pretty corrupt on its own.​

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Just as the Republic also enacted its own laws against species, destroyed planets and even wiped out species as well.​

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[member="Valiens Nantaris"]​

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That is why I made a Discussion first. I wanted in a way to gauge the possibility of interest in such a thing happening. There was always the point of taking the idea to the Admins of the Republic Faction and seeing if there was further interest along with any outside interest by the Members of the site as well. This was in no way intended to bring change to the Republic without members of the Republic Faction being on board. Much like using the PH test when you have a spa or pool, this was likewise meant to test the water as it were.​

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[member="Jay Scott Clark"]​

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There is a very slippery slope young lady.​

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[member="Geneviève Lasedri"]​

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Saying that the Mandalorians whom were otherwise wiped out by Revan with an underhanded tactic as the Mass Shadow Generator are not "True Mandalorians" is an insult. All Mandalorians are True Mandalorians as being Mandalorian is a way of life. Even the Mandalorians whom lost were proud that it happened because Revan was an enemy worth fighting and they honored that. Being able to honor the enemy that defeated you shows just how great the Mandalorians were and still are.​

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[member="Haven Pryde*"]​

 

[renegade solstice]

Yea I am sure an arrogant jedi like me could learn alot from them too.. but in my eyes taking a slug to the head is wayy better than being conquered and enslaved by a warmongering traitorous jedi master.


(let me simply note this is not to down or diss any mandolorian on this board, or any revanites here..)