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Could a droid use the Force?

[member="Break"]

Feel free to join my company and create with us. I plan to create many new things, I am currently trying to mix a rare metal, Ionite, with a common one to make more use out of it.
 
There is a fundamental difference, I think, between thought processes and intuition. A droid is capable of thinking. It can view a situation and, under the parameters of its programming, devise a means to solve a problem or perform a task. I think that process is most related to thought. Humans observe, rationalize, and then perform based on our surroundings. Not too different, right?

Well intuition is different. For example, when faced with two choices that have no apparent benefit either way, and yet one is most certainly better than another by principle of the situation (i.e. trying to solve a labyrinth by trial and error alone, cliché but an effective example), this is a situation where intuition is required. Humans can be "lucky" or "unlucky" and choose the right or wrong path to follow. However, when a droid is faced with such a decision, it only has its thought processes to judge the situation. It "knows" that there is a 50% chance of picking the correct choice. There is also a 50% chance to pick the wrong choice.

When I think of a droid trying to use its processors to make this decision, I would imagine most droids (fresh off of the line, without the experience that R2D2 obviously showed in dealing with spontaneous situations) would stand there. They would be unable to compute a proper solution to their quandary and simply shut off. The droid is not designed to make those judgments. It can perform a task, it cannot make intuitive decisions.

Of course, the longer a droid exists, the more experience it gains, it is possible that the droid will develop in certain ways. However, it will always remain loyal to its programming. (See Isaac Asimov)
 
[member="Jorj Kell"] then does that not just prove that the imitation of life is life? The only difference would be that a human hot off the line...or born would just not know what to do either? And with an experienced Droid just being an older human?
 
[member="Jorj Kell"]

You lost me on this one. Your arguements is that a droid fresh from the oven could never think and act like a human with experience. Flip this around and a baby could not think like an experienced droid. I believe what you are wanting to argue is the soul, that a human has one and a droid doesn't. Now, strictly in Star Wars and sci Fi in general a droid, like a HRD with an AI could think and act on its own mind based of learned trail and error. There is a philosophy of predestined that we have no choice as Humans and we merely act on formulas bult in our brain that has been gained with time. Your thoughts?
 
[member="Lanax Grayson"]

My point was that it could possibly screw up a droid's native 'intelligence', it's processing and memory. Magnetic energy is the only thing I can think of that can repel and attract objects outside the Force (or some kind of magic). Otherwise, might as well just pick it up physically.

Unless I'm forgetting something which can do the same thing without magnets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvmvxAcT_Yc
 

Ornko'mad

The Mind Behind
Ya'll are forgetting Skippy the Jedi Droid.

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"But that was from Tales! That's not canon!" I hear you cry. Ah, poor, lost souls, look at the Wooki page under "Behind the Scenes" - an in-universe article/essay, focusing on the very-canon Shard Iron Knights (mentioned above), acknowledges that the legend of Skippy is indeed canon. AND HOW COULD THAT LEGEND COME ABOUT IF HE WASN'T REAL? Checkmate.

Also, don't be racist. speciesist. organicist. I'm ashamed of you.
 
[member="Ceska Starshield"]

I might have already solved that, look up Ionite on the wiki. It might have the ability to resist magnetic effects and if you seal vital objects in Ionite then you maybe good. Research is key here.
 
Lanax Grayson said:
[member="Ceska Starshield"]
I might have already solved that, look up Ionite on the wiki. It might have the ability to resist magnetic effects and if you seal vital objects in Ionite then you maybe good. Research is key here.
I didn't say it couldn't happen, just a problem to work around *shrug* looks like you might have found that solution.
 
[member="Ceska Starshield"] the magnet trick only works on REALLY old computers. I work on oil pipeline IRL I scan the steel using a magnet that could pull nickel. (Nickel isn't magnetic) I also use my equipment that is a computer and also use my cell phone around it all the time never had a problem.
 
I was more trying to argue thought vs. intuition. But I do see your point. I did not mean to imply that experience gave on intelligence, though perhaps the illusion of it. The point that I was trying to make was that intelligence =/= life.

EDIT: There is a substantial argument to be made considering "life" as a mechanism as well. However, this being Star Wars and all, I don't feel like that philosophy belongs here. If we were talking about a universe that was far more "hard sci-fi," then I would be inclined to sway to that argument slightly. However Star Wars falls much closer to the realm of fantasy, and puts a sincere definition between organics and synthetics.
 
For purely literary reasons, my step-dad and I were actually having this conversation a couple of weeks ago. We had suggested that an interesting villain could have been a droid who was a Force user through some extraordinary means, but being mechanical existed outside of it and therefore was aloof to it.

I had then additionally suggested that you could also theoretically do a sympathetic portrayal of the character by showing them working through powers that they couldn't possibly understood. Neither of us could come up with a valid reason for why they would be able to be sensitive to the Force, however.
 

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