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Dark Jedi faction?

A few years ago, in my old community, I did a story line where I and several others created our own Dark Jedi faction that culminated in a story that we called the second Almania Uprising. For those of you who aren't aware, in canon, there was this Almania Uprising which was engineered by a Dark Jedi called Kueller. It was from the novel Star Wars: The New Rebellion and it was a fantastic book. The roleplay that we did was really good as well.

I want to try and replicate something like that on here. I haven't really come up with a direction for the faction yet, I guess that a story could come along when we have a member base to play from, just like we did in my other community. But if there are any Dark Jedi roleplayers who are interested in this, or any new members looking to join something new, then hit me up.

My Skype is Clamju. If you PM here, then we can talk more about it in great detail. Thanks.
 

Niaana Ren

Mission, the 1st Sister. (Dead, Pm Writers Account
It's all down to taste really. There are 2 ways to look at it. Either DJ are dark force users that are simply not Sith (canon), or they are the line not crossed to Sith

For me DJ have a line not to cross, otherwise they are Sith, but that line varies with writer to writer. That's just my 2 cents how I like to write them.

Some DJ's i've met or written with have really made excellent 'heroes' (using the term loosely) to my Sith plots, but then again DJ can go the opposite way a bit too, still there's that line where (I) don't go all the way Sith, unless I want to turn said character into a dark, dark character :D then I'd put a Sith tag on him/her.
 

Niaana Ren

Mission, the 1st Sister. (Dead, Pm Writers Account
I will have to swing slightly to cannon here and agree with @[member="Akio Kahoshi"], some characters never studied Sith ideals, so they were never Sith, so they couldn't drop out of being Sith :)

Even with my own preference that when a character is dark enough I make them Sith, some characters just never made it either to that point, or the other point of being a Jedi. Not through lack of ability, just through personal preference, and holding the line IC (not OOC), the struggle with it is fun to write.


Though all this should probably start going in its own thread, not this man's thread.

Even if till now it has hopefully help advertise a decent DJ faction for him!
 
Akio Kahoshi said:
How do you "drop out" of a religion into a new one? Jedi and sith are both religions. It's like saying a Christian or Muslim dropped out and became a Jew. Doesn't work.
Then why does it happen all the time?

Edit: Had to add quote. Also I guess convert would be the best example in your scenario.
 
In canon every case of a Jedi becoming a sith, they were converted to tge faith. Sith choosing to leave the faith aren't Jedi unless they converted back. ifyou mean why it happens so much on rp sites... that's a question for the writers that do that. but all of thisdetracts from the purpose of this thread.
 
You'd be correct from a cannon standpoint of course. From a cannon standpoint i'm completely invalidated.

Usually it's an ooc motivation though, which is where my argument is. I have seen well written Dark Jedi, but they're more rare.

However, Niaana you're right i'm derailing him rudely. I'm gonna go edit down my stuff.
 

Niaana Ren

Mission, the 1st Sister. (Dead, Pm Writers Account
it's all good people, I hope the thread starter thinks so too!

Because this not knowing what the DJ faction is, is what makes a good DJ faction, the uncertainty, that makes EXCELLENT threads in finding out.

I mean look at how much interest it caught just in one post :)
@[member="Vilox Pazela"]
 
There are various perspectives and opinions on what makes a Dark Jedi. For example, you have the Legions of Lettow led by Xendor, the first Jedi that fell to the dark side who caused one of the biggest Force Wars that hadn't been heard of in the Jedi Order's history since the Je'daii split on Tython. It is the same for the second Dark Jedi exiles, Ajunta Pall, Sorzus Syn and so on who fell to the dark side and manifested in ways that only few, few Sith in the Sith Order's history have managed to replicate and build on.

On the other hand, you have the term that is "Dark Jedi" who were Force-sensitives that were not Jedi (light siders) but neither were they Sith. They acted as servants for the Sith, acting as their operatives, spies or basic servitude. There were then those Dark Jedi who served the Sith who were pretty powerful. Take the Dark Acolytes that served Darth Tyranus and then later Darth Sidious, whom eventually became the Emperor's Hands. It was an servant that came out of the Rule of Two, called Lumiya, that saved the Order of Sith Lords that fragmenting altogether, only for Caedus to fall to his twin sister.

It is my intention to roleplay a character who has begun to think beyond the realms of the Sith. Essentially a dark sider who has moved on from the Sith religion and is no longer tied down by it's beliefs or dogmas, instead focusing on what it truly is to be dark sided. Key differences between Vilox Pazela and Darth Sidious, for example, is that one knows when to step back and the other does not. If someone crossed Sidious, then that Sith Lord would create a complicated, highly intelligent plot to gain revenge on that one particular individual. Vilox Pazela, on the other hand, would remember that individual but wouldn't be blinded by revenge nor his hatred for that individual. He would know that, whatever plot he was making at the time, would eventually affect that particular person and eventually allow him to orchestrate and manipulate events to place that person in a situation that would equally messed them up or worse, in return for what they had done several years ago, rather than what I think a Sith would do, who would have the patience to wait some years, but not as long as someone as Vilox Pazela.

In my other community, I would drift in between the Sith and the Dark Jedi, whenever a roleplayer or two would like to spice up our relatively small Star Wars world and begin something new with the Dark Jedi. In the end, character development dictated that Vilox Pazela became the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Vazela. But whenever he was affiliated to the Dark Jedi as Vilox Pazela (and let's not forget, I started the character as a Dark Jedi) it was always fun to portray and roleplay something new, with a different way of doing and seeing things without the influence of Sith teachings, but equally or sometimes more damaging than what a Sith did.

As I once described it, there were three different types of Dark Jedi:

  • The servant, whom serves a master always. A pawn for their master to utilize in their plots, without much reward save for the fact that they were serving that person.
  • The isolationist, whom cares about nothing or no one but themselves, who doesn't have the aspirations or objectives that a Sith Lord would have, but not necessarily weaker than a Sith would be. A dark side artifact hunter, for example.
  • The exile, a Dark Jedi whom is a master of the dark side. Who is as powerful and as objective as a Sith, but with a different style, codex and perspective to the Sith. The Lettows of Legion or the exiled Dark Jedi to Korriban, for example.
I've roleplayed a bit of all three when I've played a Dark Jedi, but character development always ended in the latter and that was always fun.
 
@[member="Vilox Pazela"]

This is - Niaana, I agree largely but I don't think isolationist or exile covers enough:

- The noble, who plays for power but has that sense of family/house/culture ahead of their own pursuits.
- The criminal who does enough to get by.
- The hunter who doesn't care much either way, but takes bounties with their own powers.

I mean, It can be broken down into any aspect of life then applied, but so can Sith or Jedi. For me, its more, how far is that character willing to go into the lightside or the darkside. I know I move slightly against cannon here :), but I think in a productive way, some cannon backs me up, the older canon not as much.
 
The canon about the Dark Jedi is different from each other and there never has been an exact Dark Jedi faction. The closest to such a faction was Brakiss and his intentions to build "Dark Jedi Knights" if memory serves me. But it was shut down by Luke Skywalker's Jedi Praxeum and I don't really consider Brakiss leadership material. He was a mentally unhealthy, unstable Force-sensitive that got too caught up in the Empire's spy network and then became a pawn of Kueller, who was a leader in himself.
 

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