Density of Neuranium?

[Ultimatum]

So I have been crunching numbers and trying to figure out the gravitational force that a certain amount of Neuranium would have. At this point I have been using Tungsten as the density number (19.25 g/cm^3) to work with, but I wanted to see if anyone else had a better idea of what would be a good number to work with. Should it be more dense? Saying that in a large enough quantity gravity sensitive species can feel it bending timespace.

So what do people think I should take as a good number for the density here?

Thanks everyone ahead of time.

 

[ADM. Reshmar]

it's basically neutron star so the closest thing I could think of would be moon rock "@ 3270 kg/m3" in the real world. It is dense enough to warp space/time so it has to be insanely dense.

 

[Rhodes]

[member="Reshmar"]

Would you say Neuranium is dense enough to stop an EMP from affecting a device?

 

[ADM. Reshmar]

[member="Janus"]
no while it is dense it dos not stop electrical current. It may slow it down due to the density but not stop it. Generally an EMP is a massive charge. It might stop some hand held type of EM weapon but a starship grade weapon no They are just too powerful. Gravity and mass effect the electrons since they themselves have mass but its is not enough to make a difference. But like I said It may slow down the current a bit. I do not know of any real world experiment of how temporal Diolation effects electrical current. This is something I plan on reading up on. if your wanting to make something to help against EMp look up the Hall effect and do some reading

 

[Rhodes]

[member="Reshmar"]

Cool, thanks

Wouldn't a Faraday cage prevent EMP as well?

 

[ADM. Reshmar]

Yes it will. But sometimes things are just too powerful. The cage will break down under enough power. So it woeks yes but know eventually everthing will fail under enough power. But against things like fighter grade ion and emp yeah a cage rocks. Against planetary grade and heavy capital... It will work for awhile

 

[Jsc]

[member="Ultimatum"]

Handwavium3 * Ridicumagiculous2 + L factor + Don't Science StarWars

Where: L factor = Sushi Fridays.

 

[Ultimatum]

Thanks [member="Reshmar"] for the info. Would you say then that Neuranium would be more dense than any material that we are aware of in the real world?

[member="Jay Scott Clark"] thank you for the humor, I just like to know what I am dealing with so that I do justice to realism, keeping in mind that this is all heavily fictional and breaks almost all rules of Physics at some point or other.

 

[Quiet]

[member="Ultimatum"] if you are looking to use it, be cool and make a body of it like I did... we can be Ultron and Jocastaing it up

 

[Ultimatum]

Haha, I had thought of that and that is one of the ideas I have in mind. But right now I am thinking more about making a ship out of it.

[member="Quiet"]

 

[Ellie Mors]

Thanks [member="Reshmar"] for the info. Would you say then that Neuranium would be more dense than any material that we are aware of in the real world?

[member="Jay Scott Clark"] thank you for the humor, I just like to know what I am dealing with so that I do justice to realism, keeping in mind that this is all heavily fictional and breaks almost all rules of Physics at some point or other.

I don't know of any real-world metal that is dense enough to warp gravity, so the answer here is yes.

It is also dense enough to resist a lightsaber for quite some time.

 

[Jorus Merrill]

Haha, I had thought of that and that is one of the ideas I have in mind. But right now I am thinking more about making a ship out of it.

The EmPal SuRecon Center was plated with it, and Palpatine's office floor had no problem with it, so it's absolutely not comparable to a neutron star. In the sources, it's just a really dense metal, nothing special about it. Ship plating would be completely consistent with canon precedents, though it would probably knock a couple points off speed and maneuverability. Go nuts.

 

[ADM. Reshmar]

Haha, I had thought of that and that is one of the ideas I have in mind. But right now I am thinking more about making a ship out of it.

The EmPal SuRecon Center was plated with it, and Palpatine's office floor had no problem with it, so it's absolutely not comparable to a neutron star. In the sources, it's just a really dense metal, nothing special about it. Ship plating would be completely consistent with canon precedents, though it would probably knock a couple points off speed and maneuverability. Go nuts.

It is dense enough to warp space/time so plating a ship in it would definitely slow it down. I would not use this as armor plating but more as a over coat of some type. Lay a thin sheet over some other type of armor. If you try to use this thick enough to be useful as starship armor your ship might as well be a station because it would not be able to apply enough thrust to move it and forget turning.

 

[Jorus Merrill]

It is dense enough to warp space/time

Here's the source that invented it.

As a Jedi shuttle settled to the landing deck outside, the shadow sent its mind into the far deeper night within one of the several pieces of sculpture that graced the office: an abstract twist of solid neuranium, so heavy that the office floor had been specially reinforced to bear its weight, so dense that more sensitive species might, from very close range, actually perceive the tiny warping of the fabric of space-time that was its gravitation. Neuranium of more than roughly a millimeter thick is impervious to sensors; the standard security scans undergone by all equipment and furniture to enter the Senate Office Building had shown nothing at all. If anybody had used an advanced gravimetric detector, however, they might have discovered that one smallish section of the sculpture massed slightly less than it should have, given that the manifest that had accompanied it, when it was brought from Naboo amoung the then-ambassador's personal effects, clearly stated that it was a piece of soild-forged neuranium.

It's really heavy metal; that's all there is to it.

 

[Vora Kaar]

 

[Ultimatum]

I would assume that since it says that it does bend spacetime, that would mean that is incredibly dense. And if a small statue of this material is dense enough to create this effect, that would mean (I think) that is far denser than any known material. Saying that it is akin to a neutron star makes sense to me, given the connotations and the basic idea of what a neutron star is. My thoughts, though I am just working with what I believe, not necessarily what is true.

"so dense that more sensitive species might, from very close range, actually perceive the tiny warping of the fabric of space-time that was its gravitation"

[member="Reshmar"] [member="Jorus Merrill"] [member="Braith Achlys"]

 

[Jsc]

[member="Ultimatum"]

Meh, there is no wrong answer. Do what you feel is best and right, and edgy. After all. Consistency, believability, and quasi-close-science is never required. And, it's artistic appreciation is always debatable.

Party hard.

 

[Ellie Mors]

I would assume that since it says that it does bend spacetime, that would mean that is incredibly dense. And if a small statue of this material is dense enough to create this effect, that would mean (I think) that is far denser than any known material. Saying that it is akin to a neutron star makes sense to me, given the connotations and the basic idea of what a neutron star is. My thoughts, though I am just working with what I believe, not necessarily what is true.

"so dense that more sensitive species might, from very close range, actually perceive the tiny warping of the fabric of space-time that was its gravitation"

[member="Reshmar"] [member="Jorus Merrill"] [member="Braith Achlys"]

I wouldn't say it's similar to a neutron star because, well, that kind of gravitational pull would have rendered its use (plating on a tower) impossible. It would have collapsed in on itself. The statue, though, was probably built specifically to be that dense so that nobody would be able to locate its contents via generic scanners/sensors. If I recall correctly, Palpatine's lightsaber was stored inside and it was so dense/thick that it took a considerable time for his activated lightsaber to cut its way out and be force-pulled to his hand.

Denser than most/all known metals, sure. Just don't go crazy with it. It'll stop sensors, slow down the speed of a ship because of how heavy it is, but it isn't going to warp the fabric of space and time or pull an asteroid into your ship.