Dominion of Kiffex/Kiffu

[Zonia Kalranoos]

Hi folks, here's a modest suggestion of objectives for dominion of prison worlds of Kiffex/Kiffu

• Objective 1 - The holochron of Quinlan Vos(canon item)

Holocron of Quinlan Vos contains Force powers interesting to both Sith and Jedi(such as False Light Side Aura). The dominion thread will serve as dev thread for holocron, where I will make 30 posts on how the holochron came to be. There might be dark siders hunting it as well, so prepare. The item is currenty with Kiffu guardians, so you'll need to persuade them to give it away(for safekeeping?).

• Objective 2 - Prison experiment

If you ever took Pyschology 101, you would be familiar with Stanford Prison Experiment. RPers will be randomly assigned into roles of prisoners and guards in an actual prison on Kiffex, all for the sake of experiment and science! [member="Coren Starchaser"] will be the warden.

• Objective 3 - Apprehend [member="Vittras Zerga"]

Vittras Zerga is a most wanted fugitive who escaped prison on Kiffex and is rumored to be hiding on Kiffu. He is a Force sensitive ex Kiffu Guardian who was convicted of killing his pregnant wife and Jedi Watchman. Capture him and subdue him, but remember - Zerga has genuine hate for the Sith. Prove he is innocent and have him join the GA. Try to return him to prison, and he will join the Sith. Such a lunatic!

• Objective 4 - Brawl at Busted Blaster

Busted Blaster is spacer's bar on Kiffex where scum of the earth drinks themselves under the table. Meet some of your favorite scoundrels(feel free to invite your bounty hunter and mercenary friends) and engage in a real, live brawl. No real objective here, just a lot of drunken, angry punching. Violence! Huzzah!

And of course, Her Majesty - the BYOO.

Alas, I will be making at least 50 posts in this thread alone - 30 as dev and at least 20 as Zerga...so that's a dominion half done.

Discuss.

 

[Peyton Steele]

Remember, you cna only do 20 per writer for it to count, anything you do above will push us above 100, per site rules.

otherwise, looks good.

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

 

[Chevu Visz]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

OMGWHENCANWE?

Can you tell I'm a little excited about this?

 

[Zonia Kalranoos]

[member="Peyton Steele"] I know, but dev thread requires 30. I still think people will be engaged enough so reaching well beyond 100 will not be a problem.

[member="Chevu Visz"] will be torn between apprehending uberhunk Vittras and being a prisongirl when [member="Coren Starchaser"] is warden.

 

[Audren Sykes]

I'd be down.

 

[Vittras Zerga]

[member="Chevu Visz"] Which part excites you most, flubber?

 

[Chevu Visz]

[member="Chevu Visz"] will be torn between apprehending uberhunk Vittras and being a prisongirl when [member="Coren Starchaser"] is warden.

[member="Chevu Visz"] Which part excites you most, flubber?

Is this going to be a dominion or a walk of shame?

 

[Danger Arceneau]

If we are pushing for Kiffu / Kiffex at some point...

Let me get the Queen of Kiffu (legit, she is the Chaos canon queen of it)

[member="Kiskla Grayson"]

[member="Kiskla Grayson"]

 

[Rekha Kaarde]

I'm in, I just have to decide which I want, the prison experiment sounds like fun. But I need to think.

 

[Ilias Nytrau]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"]

Whether the dev requires it or not, you yourself cannot make more than twenty posts. It's in the site rules for dominions. What you can do is pull someone along to do the dev with you - that will still make up the posts you need, if they devote at least ten to the dev.

 

[Coren Starchaser]

I'll probably be doing some NPC slaving.

 

[Danger Arceneau]

I will join probably with two of my faces. Not sure which one, but this would be an exciting one!

 

[Liam Quez]

Yes, totally just found the objective I'll be doing BYOO ;3

 

[Julius Sedaire]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"] - This sounds more like a thread to get you a holocron than a story, not to be rude.... And it will seriously jack up the dominion count post just so it can be included. If we go over the ratio rule, just to be clear there is no set maximum or minimum post increase. Not that I have seen. So if we allow you 50 posts total (almost three times the ratio allowed) just so you can get your holocron, what happens then if Staff slam the post count up by 50-60 more posts? That's a lot of work you're asking for, just so you can get an item.

If *you* want to bring that as *your* objective in a BYOO style, great. That I can support fully. Use your 20 posts in the dom to find the holocron and study it, and once the dom is complete, carry on further in thread of your own. Your goal is achieved, our goal is achieved, and no extra work for anyone, as you would have had to make the posts anyway, but stuffing them into a dom just adds extra work for no reason.

But it's a little over the top to use a dominion to dev a holocron for yourself, when it goes to the point that doing so will require more work for the dominion overall. As well, the objective dealing with the Guardians is awesome, but why would Jedi of the New Order be there solely to take a holocron away from it's native protectors, where it had resided peacefully and safely, apparently, for centuries?

Just my two cents.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Tionne Thanewulf"] - This sounds more like a thread to get you a holocron than a story, not to be rude.... And it will seriously jack up the dominion count post just so it can be included. If we go over the ratio rule, just to be clear there is no set maximum or minimum post increase. Not that I have seen. So if we allow you 50 posts total (almost three times the ratio allowed) just so you can get your holocron, what happens then if Staff slam the post count up by 50-60 more posts? That's a lot of work you're asking for, just so you can get an item.

If *you* want to bring that as *your* objective in a BYOO style, great. That I can support fully. Use your 20 posts in the dom to find the holocron and study it, and once the dom is complete, carry on further in thread of your own. Your goal is achieved, our goal is achieved, and no extra work for anyone, as you would have had to make the posts anyway, but stuffing them into a dom just adds extra work for no reason.

But it's a little over the top to use a dominion to dev a holocron for yourself, when it goes to the point that doing so will require more work for the dominion overall. As well, the objective dealing with the Guardians is awesome, but why would Jedi of the New Order be there solely to take a holocron away from it's native protectors, where it had resided peacefully and safely, apparently, for centuries?

Just my two cents.

Here's how to look at it:

• We need 100 posts, 20 per writer maximum and each +1 is +1 to that 100 posts.
• She does 10 more posts, we need 10 more posts - which means we are doing the same work as we would have before, she is just going to add another 10 to that anyways. We'd need 100 regardless, so think of that +10 being what work she put in, there is no real extra work being done because we would need those 10 posts anyways, even if she didn't do 10 more posts.
• Every post in this thread involving the holocron counts as that post count, meaning she doesn't need to do 50 posts alone.

Also, the species are Kiffar not Kiffu.

I will be there.

 

[Ilias Nytrau]

Not to gang up on you, [member="Tionne Thanewulf"], but [member="Julius Sedaire"] has a fair point, especially with another objective focused on an alt of yours. Which brings another point:

I do not suggest trying to carry a whole dominion on your own. What I'm seeing in your objectives, between the holocron and your prison-breaking alt, is a touch of 'me me me'. This should be about the faction, and I do know that you're trying to give the faction some benefit here, so please don't take that the wrong way.

Also, two prison objectives is a bit much, so I'd roll those all into one. Well, here's my objectives, to put them in the right place:

For Kiffu/Kiffex, objectives could actually end up very interesting with not one, but two worlds being there.

Consider that....

*Kiffex contains prison colonies for the Kiffu sector
*Kiffex has rich soil, making it an excellent world for significant amounts of agriculture.
*Kiffu has had many energy spiders smuggled onto it, which means there is a high likelihood of glitterstim on Kiffu.
*When both worlds are brought close together by their elliptical orbits, electrical storms ensue in Kiffu's atmosphere, and the Kiffar harness this energy.

I think some of these are good to base objectives off of, for the dominion.

Suggestions

*Prison riots/prisoner outbreaks. Obvious combat objective.

*Establishing a presence to benefit from the rich soil, to develop foodstuffs to feed our troops, and more besides. Those in corporate could get in on this, as well as those with a green thumb.

*With energy spiders comes glitterstim, and with glitterstim comes the drug trade. There could be a drug lord or ten, and smugglers, to boot. Possibly more combat, and/or a resource to tap for those of us less straight-laced... of course, a thought: is there potential for glitterstim to be developed into a medically useful drug?Derivations? Also, could be linked up to Kessel, and lead in to another/bigger story.

*Problems with their energy-harnessing systems. Aging systems? Conflict with the drug trade? Who knows?

My suggestions, as an amalgamation of your objectives and mine, are as follows:

*Nix doing the holocron dev in the dominion. You need thirty posts, right? I will help you with it myself, with another alt (probably one of my Jedi - Jannik or Stali, as a suggestion) in a thread during or after the dominion. Focus on writing your Kiffar alt, which brings me to my further suggestions, since you asked.

*Objective One (Kiffex): Between your prison objectives and mine, we could give people plenty to do in one objective. Nix the experiment, though. It's too much. Have a huge prison outbreak so we don't only have to deal with your alt, but all the other prisoners, too. Riots, turning into an huge prisoner outbreak, and your guy slips out in the madness. This is much, much more exciting, and simpler to address.

*Objective Two (Kiffex): Agriculture. I cannot stress how important feeding the troops is. My entire suggestion for this is in my above quote.

*Objective Three (Kiffu): I can roll the glitterstim and the energy problems into one thing. Really, taking down the drug lord/lords and/or benefitting from the presence of energy spiders during electrical storms where the harnessing systems are acting up, or are old, or whatever? That's going to make Kiffu exciting. Note, canon only mentions that these storms affect Kiffu, not Kiffex.

*Objective Four (Kiffex/Kiffu; BYOO): Put the bar here, put it on Kiffu, as it would tie nicely to the drug trade. Do the holocron stuff here if you decide it still has to be done in the dominion. Aside from those, it's BYOO. People can do as they like here, fill their boots!

Furthermore, if you like, I can write the opening post for you, Tio, and you can post it!

Lastly - remember, folks. Anything over and above the 100 posts doesn't fall within the rules that limit a writer's contributions to the dominion, and a dominion is still a story. You can go ham once the threshold is reached, if you really want. Only the required post count is complete after the 100 is done. The story still goes on, if people still write it!

 

[Julius Sedaire]

[member="Braith Achlys"]

• Respectfully, unless you can point me to where an Admin or an RPJ had stated there is a 1 post over equals 1 extra post ruling, in the fourm and not in a PM or Skype convo, your first point is your opinion. Given that opinion is outside of the judging of a factory submission, it is no more or less valid in any way than anyone else, i.e. no more or less valid than mine. If this is a rule i've missed, great. But if that is the case, it would behoove you to link that rule.
  
• See the above point for my thoughts/questions/rebuttals.
  

Hi folks, here's a modest suggestion of objectives for dominion of prison worlds of Kiffex/Kiffu
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The dominion thread will serve as dev thread for holocron, where I will make 30 posts on how the holochron came to be.

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Alas, I will be making at least 50 posts in this thread alone - 30 as dev and at least 20 as Zerga...so that's a dominion half done.

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No, she doesn't have to do 50 posts alone. You are totally right. And my proposition and others to her would fix all this, accomplish her goals, and there would need to be no extra posts. Not one, not ten, not thirty or a hundred.

But in her own words show she clearly intends to. So even if we estimate at a one-one ratio, that's a minimum of 30 extra posts. There is literally no gain in this situation for the Faction, besides a Holocron.

And the Holocron we 'gain' is, by canon, containting nothing but love letters...So I don't see the need to devote any extra work to it, or make it the focal point of a Dom. We can get her goal done without the hassle, is all i'm saying.

She does the holocron hunt BYOO style? I'm there to help. She does the Holocron hunt independently? I'm there to help, it's a fun thing. But to make it the center stage of a Dominion is just un-needed really, in my opinion.

 

[Zonia Kalranoos]

I was asked to submit a set of objectives by [member="Coren Starchaser"] and post them here. It was not supposed to be an exclusive, exhaustive or definitive list of objectives. Hence the "discuss". I'm really sorry if some of you interpreted this as me trying to make the entire dominion centered around me. That was really not my intention.

So, I would kindly ask [member="Kelly Perris"] or [member="Julius Sedaire"] to start the dom thread when they agree on the objectives. They both have more experience than me.

As for the holocron, I've asked in the factory and the suggestion is to weave the dev into the dominion(if I understood correctly) and that I can alter the contents of the holocron itself. But that really does not matter anymore. Feel free to use whatever objectives you like.

Happy posting!

 

[Jacen Voidstalker]

There's nothing wrong with weaving a Holocron into a dominion. However, I've seen it implied that if someone posted 25 times, the total for the thread could be between 105 and 125 as a result. If someone posted 50 times admin would come down hard IMO.

You didn't know, there's nothing wrong with that

 

[Khyon Drogo]

*Objective One (Kiffex): Between your prison objectives and mine, we could give people plenty to do in one objective. Nix the experiment, though. It's too much. Have a huge prison outbreak so we don't only have to deal with your alt, but all the other prisoners, too. Riots, turning into an huge prisoner outbreak, and your guy slips out in the madness. This is much, much more exciting, and simpler to address.

To that point, you can expect some gruffness from us, the Kiffu Guardians. We take our prison role very seriously, and perhaps may not like all you offworlders intruding and doing our jobs.

I like this, happy to help!