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Galactic One Sith Parliament

So, I've been doing some thinking and on top of suggestions by other members, in private, it's been made pretty clear that a pretty critical component of our faction is absent. Either on purpose or by accident, we've lost a massive form of roleplay - the political kind. And while I know a number of you all have no interest in such things, I think there are also a number, both currently in the faction and outside of it, that would be interested in what would essentially be the Senate for the One Sith. So, why would we consider doing this?

  1. We have a number of sub factions. Sith Assassins, Legion Yun'Do, Chiss Ascendancy, etc. All of these are currently disconnected not only from each other, but also largely from the One Sith Leadership structure. A senate, where they are offered representation based on specific planet, would benefit not only the OS, but also these groups as we attempt to further integrate the groups into a more holistic group.
  2. The leadership, as of right now, is relatively ambiguous. While the faction once began as a discrete line flowing from the Dark Lord, I don't think it's really the case any more. Not only this, but the current admins have taken the approach of not adding additional people without proper reasoning as it dilutes the importance of these positions. I.e. we replace inactive lords with more active ones, to limit the number of lords in the hierarchy. But introducing a parliament, or senate, we can assimilate a wider berth of contingents and more freely push the power throughout the faction. This would give room for NFU's to carry full weight, as well as the renewed potential for NFU Voices.
  3. Politics is interesting. We are wide open when it comes to war, everyone knows that. But politics allows for subterfuge, for covert back alley treaties and the likes. This is where an entirely new breed of Sith could flourish.
  4. Some decisions shouldn't be made by a select group of people. Whether this planet gets defenses, or that one, how much energy is siphoned to each planet from Sarapin, what planets get funding for infrastructure development, whether the military is pushed out to contain rebellions. Laws, decrees, curfews, alliances, etc. That should be really decided by the faction as a whole, at least in my opinion.
So here is my basic suggestion and if everyone thinks it's a good idea, we can use it as a point of departure. Our plan is to create a new avenue of Sith rping, where all these sort of loose ends on how things work are tied together. So, the structure of my initial suggestion:

1. Executive Branch - Contained within the Wrath (Rev) and the Eye ([member="Darth Isolda"])
2. Judiciary Committee - Contained within the purview of the Voices
3. The senate or house or whatever - Elected officials that govern or act as warden of a specific planet. These would be where laws are whatnot are suggested, discussed, and inevitably passed

What about the Hands? Well, the Hands are closer to military generals (similar to the Shadow - the leader of the Sith Assassins). As such, we can have ministries for intelligence or war or finances or state or navy anything. And in these spots, if it's decided to be appropriate, the Hands could serve these roles.

Now, it's hard to look at this without looking at the Galactic Senate and comparing. And I hope that we can avoid that because this will be wholly different in both theme and purpose. Sith are selfish, they want what they want for their planets and that's something that I hope we can collectively advocate. This is an attempt for the Hierarchy to disperse the power throughout the faction, creating a leveled playing field where people can have an impact for either their character or their contingents, while also impacting the faction as a whole. But before we put time into building the sub faction, creating a directory of who represents who (first come first served sort of thing), we need to be sure it's something that can fit into this faction.

I personally think it does fit and I'm looking forward to hearing suggestions, criticisms, and feedback.

[member="Sage Bane"] | [member="Vrag"]
 
I agree with [member="Darth Carach"], this is well thought out. However I, personally, never could see any Sith Empire old or future ever having a political structure except for the Dark Council. Of course, if this senate is like the ancient Roman senate then it will be an interesting concept with backstabbing or backroom deals against one another.

Beware the Ides of March :)
 
[member="Darth Venefica"]

That would essentially be the idea. Sort of a birthplace for plots and backstabbing and the likes. In the end, I think we could use some for of political platform. Whether that's the senate or something else altogether.
 
I agree, the OS should incorporate a political structure. I think this:

3. The senate or house or whatever - Elected officials that govern or act as warden of a specific planet. These would be where laws are whatnot are suggested, discussed, and inevitably passed​
should be left open to NFU as well. Perhaps a way to draw NFU into the OS, since we are having issues rounding up interest for a Naval fleet atm.
 
[member="Darth Venefica"]

I think that would be appropriate. My only concern would be initially, with activity. However, we could work it to be an active body that is essentially NPC until filled by PC activity.

[member="Darth Ophidia"]

That's my hope :)
 
Corrupt politics without any OOC gripe?

I'm down with it.

I do suggest that a war council be made in conjunction to this. You mentioned the Sub Factions, and more often than not they're militant. By making a war council, you can get the sub faction hierarchy in, and create a bond (good or bad) between the subs and the OS.
 
I support this, and think it's a great idea! Even absolute monarchs had their councilors. The One Sith empire is great, with many planets to govern. Surely the upper hierarchy would have to delegate. I think this can work. While one could argue that the true power will always remain with the top Sith Lords, with a corrupt government, there's no limit to how far you can go.

I've been tempted to make a Republic senator. Maybe I'll swing him to fit this idea instead. :)
 
[member="Reverance"]

I like where you are trying to go with this. I do agree with not wanting to go with a carbon copy of the GR Senate. I think [member="Darth Venefica"] and [member="Darth Ferus"] in the War Council and NFU openings in Senate affairs.

Mirroring what Venefica said I would be glad to write up a quick character for this idea.
 
I support the creation of such a political entity. Mostly because I really love the Galactic Republic's senate and applying a council/parliament/something along these lines to the One Sith would in my eyes make faction only better.

I already have a character who I thought I'd make a Republic senator, but if this thing does work out, I'd love to make him fit into the One Sith instead. :)
 
And I would be making a senator as well, likely carrying over a Yuuzhan Vong from the Legion for representation of Selvaris - unless someone else wanted to do that. But yeah, I think so far, I'm liking the responses so far.

[member="Darth Ferus"]

I might make a temporary skype group, with those that have shown interest, to hash out things that can be transcribed back here for transparency sake.
 
As a lowly newb to this site.....I have a few minor opinions....


1. Perhaps planets could be update and upgraded with various fortresses, defenses, agriculture, trade (smuggling including), barracks / training centers (force users academies / spy academies / special forces training areas), various types of factories (tanks to star ships), and other such things.
-----Where the RPing comes into play. If no one is actively doing threads about taking a particular planet, lets us the planet BLAH, from some sort of basic low level agriculture to full on main center of agriculture. It will take 3 months in RL. But if a political character is there actively doing threads, then it takes one thread of 'X' amount per Tier. And lets say there are Four Tiers. One being some basic level agriculture planet and 4 being some badass hydroponics with agricultural specialty of super awesomeness that always the faction to gain metric fuck tons of credits.


Inside of modeled after the three branches of the US government, how about their are three clans with each having an area of influence. Their are certain ranks that cross all three clans, but the Minamoto clan primarily focuses upon Judiciary or how the Sith law is taken and enforced. While the Sanada clan focuese more upon the Military aspects of the One Sith, and this covers both the Navy, Army and a "Special Operations Division" (last part should be taken as Stealth based assassinations, covert operations, and spying on both the One Sith and others not in the Sith). And lastly the Wardens, that deal with planet governance, and the basic Hierarchy that doesn't fit elsewhere.

This is just my idea....Again, I'm just a newb.....
 
I'll re-iterate the idea I spun to you on Skype, [member="Reverance"]

Basically there would be two new political organizations within the OS Imperial Government:
  • Imperial Parliament - A senatorial-esque organization made up of the individual Planetary Governors and a small posse of their office that come together during set periods to discuss the current situations of their individual holdings and collectively plan on the planetary scale.
  • The Assembly of the Empire / Imperial Assembly - A council made up of both Voices and Hands presided over by the Wrath (That's a you!) who come together to discuss and plan at the state level, with the Voices primarily bringing administration to the table while Hands brought covert and military knowledge. Together they would plan future campaigns against their enemies, expansion, and would send ideas and orders down to the Parliament when it came to integrating a newly acquired planet into the overall Imperial fold.

I think this would bring a lot of much needed government NFU roleplay into the One Sith, and would make sense as that core aspect of the government is horribly lacking leaving us with an ambiguous hierarchy when it comes to legislative and executive administrations.

Of course the Dark Lord is above all of this, and ultimate his word is 100% law, but for lesser matters of state these two organizations are left to their own devices under the care and observation of the Dark Lord's trusted servants.
 
[member="Lao Tzu"]

I like the ideas, in general, though I think it's important on wording. And I don't know if clan really works, though I think it's more important to focus on the duties/roles of each group and worry about their name later.

We gotta work on this like an upside down pyramid, stay broad and get into specifics as we go.

It's come to my attention that Senate or Parliament isn't Sithy enough.

We are mulling over such things as Convocation, Conclave, Synod, and Cabal for replacement of parliament.
 
[member="Darth Vornskr"]

I really like the idea. Now, when the assembly convenes and sends orders/laws down, would the parliament vote on that? And vice versa, would the Assembly have any power over laws that are being approved by the Parliament?

Simply put, where is the division of power and how much of that division is actually something that can be bypassed...is there any power between the two bodies to override the actions of the other, similar to a veto system?
 
Typically the Parliament would vote on it, yeah, but the Assembly has the power to overturn the Parliament should they not pass whatever law they were given.

The Assembly can bypass the Parliament on the state level, as most of the Parliamentary power is contained to the individual planetary systems that the governors hold sway over.

Generally speaking everything is skewed to be in favor of the Sith elements of the Government, which I think could bring up great RP when the two sides grind against one another.

Plus I 100% envision the Parliament to be very similar to the Roman senate, so I hope for a lot of forced suicides. :p

[member="Reverance"]
 

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