Aspiring Jedi
[member="Darth Abyss"]
Now you've said that, she's just gonna try and explain it...
Now you've said that, she's just gonna try and explain it...
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[Guide] How to write a Sith - Part 6 (Conversion)
- Thread starter Teynara Jeralyr
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Eternal Father
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYmrPn1CnzY
[member="Tirdarius"]
[member="Darth Carnifex"]
Shame on you.
Stealing Mala's Spirit Song.
Shame on you.
Stealing Mala's Spirit Song.
Eternal Father
[member="Darth Imperia"]
B E A C O N
This is patently false.Yula Knezevic said:
Switching whether you access light or dark requires further training from the ground up(initially), yes, but changing from one Light-side oriented group to another, or from Sith to some Dark Jedi cult or vice-versa, does not.
Taeli Raaf
Bookworm
[member="Tirdarius"]
Excellent guide as always, love reading these. I was curious though about something briefly mentioned earlier though. In TOR backstory, they show that one of the Jedi Masters, Barel Ovair, was secretly a Sith and was able to sufficiently disguise himself and his dark side abilities from the Jedi High Council while still being a respected Jedi, like his father and grandfather. What are your thoughts on a situation like that since Ovair was probably using light side techniques to protect his cover?
Excellent guide as always, love reading these. I was curious though about something briefly mentioned earlier though. In TOR backstory, they show that one of the Jedi Masters, Barel Ovair, was secretly a Sith and was able to sufficiently disguise himself and his dark side abilities from the Jedi High Council while still being a respected Jedi, like his father and grandfather. What are your thoughts on a situation like that since Ovair was probably using light side techniques to protect his cover?
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Taeli Raaf"]
Although it feels like a cop-out, I invariably have to say "it's a game". As with our movie writers, the intent is on crafting a story that looks good to an audience with a short attention span, so the complexities of ideology tend to be ignored in favour of whether it's interesting or not. Most of the Star Wars games have never bothered to dig into the complex nature of Sith ideology: they frankly find it easier to go with 'Sith are evil', and use that to do just about anything that fits that template.
That said, impersonating a Jedi while practising as a Sith is perfectly possible: Palpatine was able to conceal his presence in the Force from the most powerful Jedi Masters of that era, while Darth Zannah (Bane's apprentice) infiltrated the Jedi Temple as a Jedi in order to access their Archives. There are certain skills that enable a Dark Side user to conceal their presence, and Zannah was a Sith Sorceress, so she could easily craft a glamour that gave the illusion of being a Light Sider.
As for using 'Jedi abilities', you honestly wouldn't need to: even in the movies, we've never seen a Jedi technique, one that uses the Light Side (that I can recall off the top of my head). We've seen Telekinesis, Force Sense, Force Jump, Mind Trick: these are all neutral skills, available to users of either side, none of the, requiring the Light, merely the ability to manipulate the Force. If you needed to use Force Healing, for example, then yes, their cover would have been blown: that requires passivity and for the Force to work through you, which no Sith could ever do. So if a Sith honestly only ever used neutral techniques, they might never be detected as Sith.
Although it feels like a cop-out, I invariably have to say "it's a game". As with our movie writers, the intent is on crafting a story that looks good to an audience with a short attention span, so the complexities of ideology tend to be ignored in favour of whether it's interesting or not. Most of the Star Wars games have never bothered to dig into the complex nature of Sith ideology: they frankly find it easier to go with 'Sith are evil', and use that to do just about anything that fits that template.
That said, impersonating a Jedi while practising as a Sith is perfectly possible: Palpatine was able to conceal his presence in the Force from the most powerful Jedi Masters of that era, while Darth Zannah (Bane's apprentice) infiltrated the Jedi Temple as a Jedi in order to access their Archives. There are certain skills that enable a Dark Side user to conceal their presence, and Zannah was a Sith Sorceress, so she could easily craft a glamour that gave the illusion of being a Light Sider.
As for using 'Jedi abilities', you honestly wouldn't need to: even in the movies, we've never seen a Jedi technique, one that uses the Light Side (that I can recall off the top of my head). We've seen Telekinesis, Force Sense, Force Jump, Mind Trick: these are all neutral skills, available to users of either side, none of the, requiring the Light, merely the ability to manipulate the Force. If you needed to use Force Healing, for example, then yes, their cover would have been blown: that requires passivity and for the Force to work through you, which no Sith could ever do. So if a Sith honestly only ever used neutral techniques, they might never be detected as Sith.
[member="Taeli Raaf"]
[member="Tirdarius"]
As Tirdarius alluded to, Force Stealth, Art of the Small, and the art of Queytek are all very good for disguising/minimizing Force Presence.
[member="Tirdarius"]
As Tirdarius alluded to, Force Stealth, Art of the Small, and the art of Queytek are all very good for disguising/minimizing Force Presence.
Aspiring Jedi
Added a few notes to the Guide, per some recent conversations I've had. Exploring an angle that hadn't occurred to me at the time!
Eternal Father
That's why being born in the dark is far better than being born in the light and forsaking it for the dark.
Aspiring Jedi
[member="Darth Carnifex"]
As always, amigo. We may be blind to the Light, but we see so much better in the Dark
As always, amigo. We may be blind to the Light, but we see so much better in the Dark