Hybrid Characters

[Djonas Vile]

So, this has been on my mind for a while now and I've discussed it with few others who agree with me. So, I'm curious what everyone else thinks

 

[Lord Ghoul]

It depends on the gene structure, but I would imagine that if you're a hybrid you'd have all the weaknesses and significantly reduced strengths. Unless you're a science experiment.

For instance:

Hapan/Epicanthix. You'd be blind in the dark, attractive (but not to Hapan standards), probably not as tall as a regular Epicanthix, and lacking the genetic immunity to mind tricks.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

This is what I always imagined hybrids would suffer from.

[member="Mikhail Shorn"]

 

[Darth Isolda]

Exactly as [member="Mikhail Shorn"].

All the weaknesses and significantly reduced strengths.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Exactly as [member="Mikhail Shorn"].

All the weaknesses and significantly reduced strengths.

What Artamesia says.

 

[Harrip]

What the above say, it is the natural way of things.

 

[Nohemi Allaneh]

Also have to remember, not all bumpings of sentients will even give you a feasible conception.

 

[Nyxie]

Like in reality, what traits are dominant and recessive, as well as how mixed the person is (50/50 or Further down the tree) and how prominent those traits were to their progenitors all affect what the final outcome will be like. I personally like to either water down racial abilities in hybrids to mere flavor levels, or just pick and choose which thing/s I want to keep and which thing/s I want to ditch.

I only have one true hybrid character, Saera, but she was partly a Sithspawn and she has her own Species Submission just for solidity's sake.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

Mine will probably be the unpopular opinion here.

"Near-human" is actually a very common thing to happen in canon. There are tons of half-human, half-somethings running around. Many of them are truly odd, and many more are utterly indistinguishable from humans. Consider Aurra Sing, who doesn't even know her parentage. Human and something. Out of that, she gets weird fingers. Half-miraluka frequently have none of their non-human parent's traits, apart from blindness.

So personally, I feel that half-breeds shouldn't be looked at as the combination of two species. Not all genes are co-dominant. The half-breed (which is also probably a mule) should be thought of as its own species without taking into account the traits of the parents apart from cursory resemblance. Will they probably still be mostly human? Yeah. Will they manifest any unique abilities? Uncertain. Will their life be very difficult as their conflicting DNA continuously confuses their biological reactions to unpredictable stimuli? Absolutely.

Mules aren't horses, and they aren't donkeys. They're mules.

 

[Edward Vyperion]

Mine will probably be the unpopular opinion here.

"Near-human" is actually a very common thing to happen in canon. There are tons of half-human, half-somethings running around. Many of them are truly odd, and many more are utterly indistinguishable from humans. Consider Aurra Sing, who doesn't even know her parentage. Human and something. Out of that, she gets weird fingers. Half-miraluka frequently have none of their non-human parent's traits, apart from blindness.

So personally, I feel that half-breeds shouldn't be looked at as the combination of two species. Not all genes are co-dominant. The half-breed (which is also probably a mule) should be thought of as its own species without taking into account the traits of the parents apart from cursory resemblance. Will they probably still be mostly human? Yeah. Will they manifest any unique abilities? Uncertain. Will their life be very difficult as their conflicting DNA continuously confuses their biological reactions to unpredictable stimuli? Absolutely.

Mules aren't horses, and they aren't donkeys. They're mules.

*Crickity crack of the neck later* I agree with this

 

[Asemir]

Hybrids. As long as their RPed as sterile, then I'm fine with it.

 

[Ak'lya]

I'm going to have to raise an argument about being sterile, based off Krynda and Lucien Draay. Krynda Sarah was a Half human, half miraluka, gifted with "Second Sight", the ability to see in the force. She had a son, Lucien, who had a powerful connection to the Force, but not the ability to see from his Miraluka heritage.

I would have to say that [member="Solan Charr"] is one of the best examples on the board I've seen (which doesn't say much, but still). All the weaknesses, and some of the strengths.

I would say, just keep it balanced. If your father (or mother) was a Miraluka, take Force Sight, but realize that it won't be as strong as a standard Miraluka's, etc.

 

[Payback]

Yeahh I say just pick a species, but if you do decide to mix and match choose species which actually could mix and produce offspring and do as Mikhail said. Don't try and make some superhero species that is godlike

 

[Kaiden Rohn]

when you mix chocolate and milk you don't get to keep both the chocolate and the milk do you

 

[Nikolas Faselli]

For canon-species hybrids, I would reduce powers. For canon-Factory hybrids, I would keep the weaker species' strengths and stronger species' weaknesses. For Factory-species hybrids, I would keep all strengths and all weaknesses, because all Factory-made species already have to have enough weaknesses to balance off the strengths.

That's what I would personally do. Unless the species used are like... superpowered monsters.

 

[Djonas Vile]

[member="Mikhail Shorn"] Couldn't have said it any better myself.

[member="Fabula Cavataio"] I see what you're getting at.

[member="Doc"] Exactly. Ex. Actly.

 

[Aithne Charr]

WOOHOooo Got a shout out from memory. -does a dance-

 

[Kaiden Rohn]

[member="Djonas Vile"]
thanks Jason DeRulo

 

[Asemir]

[member="House Ak'lya"]

If fertile offspring are produced, then Miraluka and Homo sapien are not distinct species.

The whole half-elf/race/whatever thing in fiction doesn't work based on science and so forth (the genetics and biology of such interbreeding...), but it's a trope that's perpetuated because everyone likes the idea of taking the best (or most intriguing) aspects of two (or more) species and combining them to make a character more unique than other characters. Star Wars and just about every other fictional franchise rarely ever considers the true ramifications of the existence of virile half-breeds.

My whole comment about fertility and the like was a dig on this phenomena.

 

[Asemir]

I also want to point out that you don't get to choose what traits are presented when cross breeding. Genetics isn't a table of attributes that you look at and cherry pick the best of both worlds. It's all random. Yes, there are recessive and dominant traits, but until you've bred a line with significant generations, they won't necessarily manifest as noticeable phenotypes.

Think breeding dogs as an example. It takes many successive breedings (and interbreedings) to gain that one or two desired traits.

Ugh. Just the thought of the genetics and biology of interspecies breeding though. Chromosome compatibility. Immune reaction to sperm/ova. Enzyme/protein requirements of fertilization. Compatible physical mechanisms. Fething genetic material compatibility.

Also, it looks like I used the wrong form of "they're" in a previous post. Guess I have to commit seppuku to redeem my honor.

PS The above are my personal opinion and so not represent an official stance by the Staff as a whole.