Hybrid Characters

[Djonas Vile]

Also, it looks like I used the wrong form of "there" in a previous post. Guess I have to commit seppuku to redeem my honor.

It's the only way.

 

[Darth Ferus]

Gonna just leave this here.

 

[Ak'lya]

[member="House Ak'lya"]

If fertile offspring are produced, then Miraluka and Homo sapien are not distinct species.

See, I'm not entirely convinced on this point. In Star Wars, it would seem that Near-human species can pull this off, as [member="Darth Ferus"] has pointed out (although that's clone wars).

 

[Darth Ferus]

[member="House Ak'lya"]

Which is officially cannon, mind you.

 

[Asemir]

I'm not debating what is canon. FTL is canon but we don't allow for that in RL standard physics.

I'm merely pointing out how this phenomena of hybrid species in fiction uses a definition of science in a completely erroneous fashion. It's a trope and it's amusing because it doesn't make sense when one thinks about it.

But it happens because it's an easy way to add distinctive qualities to a character.

 

[Saera Willamina Savan]

You know what I think? I think you people think about this way too much and have a lot of free time on your hands.

Pick a species and play. Pick two species, even. Read if they're able to crossbreed or not (human/human, human/near-human, human/humanoid, near-human/humanoid, etc; the Wookiee usually indicates if they can or can't breed with x or y type) Take the most prominent ability, throw out or nerf the rest, and move on. This is a roleplay, not a biology course. xD


PS: Like all theoretical science we can't prove or disprove FTL and all the sort because we have no way of personally testing or observing it (gee, wonder why) so it's subjective to how much we actually know already. The same could be said about species that don't actually exist in real life, or species that might indeed exist in real life and for some ridiculous reason have a compatible quantity and structure of genetics as we do.

 

[Asemir]

Also SW uses the term Near-Human very loosely. It refers to both phenotypic similarities and/or genotypic similarities. The former would not necessarily allow fertile offspring or even interbreeding. The latter may, but if fertile offspring are produced, can the parent species really be called different species as deigned by biology?

Canon says yes. Which flies entirely against RL convention. Which means SW has a whole other definition to the word "species". Which then opens up a whole new problem.

 

[Saera Willamina Savan]

Canon says yes. Which flies entirely against RL convention. Which means SW has a whole other definition to the word "species". Which then opens up a whole new problem.

Well, it is a different galaxy without Darwin in it so I wouldn't leave that out of the question.

 

[Asemir]

That may be true. But we have to assume that when Lucas uses a word found in RL English vocabulary, he intends that same meaning unless explicitly said otherwise.

After all, the person(s)/civilizations/context/etc that introduced the word "hello" into the English lexicon probably didn't exist in SW, but we still assume "hello" still means "hello".

 

[Ak'lya]

[member="Asemir Lor'kora"] All I'm saying is that the fertile crossbreeding is canonical in Star wars, and the mixing of Human and near-human (the Arkanian Offshoot, the Danthomirians in the clone wars [originally human before that], Krynda Draay, Sephi crosses for pointed ears, etc.) species can be done with varing results. If a writer wants to, they should be able to, until cross-breeds are placed on the banned list. As long as they keep it balanced, then personally, I'm not sure if it matters. Star Wars science is a little off anyways compared to our understanding. They have lightsabers. We're not sure how to do that yet.
Oh, and on this site, an Umbarian and a Shi'do have kids. Just saying.

You know what I think? I think you people think about this way too much and have a lot of free time on your hands.

This sentence, in a nutshell, describes me almost perfectly.

 

[Saera Willamina Savan]

I always saw Basic language in Star Wars to be an interpretation of their actual language in English so that we could understand it. Do you get what I'm trying to say? Like it's not really spoken that way (as it's not written that way either), but it wouldn't be fun having to caption your way through hours and hours of movies and tons of books, and it's also very expensive and tedious to create an officially recognized language (see Avatar).

 

[Asemir]

[member="House Ak'lya"]

Oh I completely agree with you. It's fine that SW does it. In just saying it's a completely weird phenomena that's happened in fictional universes.

I personally still agree with @Fabula Cavatiao , in the sense that one shouldn't just cherry pick traits.

Then again we cherry pick other traits like hair color, so it shouldn't be an issue.

As long as people use common sense, that is.