Korriban v Moraband

[Krux Mullarus]

Am I the only one a little bit bothered by how Korriban's "official" name was changed to Moraband because apparently "George Lucas didnt like it" and how it was called in a single Clone Wars episode?

Did some reasearch, now I want to discuss and hear opinions. Personally, I think the reasons for the sudden changr are silly and unnecessary. I dont think Bioware would have cared if Korriban was canon. I heard Lucas didnt like it because in one pronounciation, Korriban sounds too much like Coruscant.

I'm probably never going to call it Moraband. Just me?

 

[Ashin Varanin]

[member="Knight Mullarus"]

Every place in the real world has multiple names. Ancient Sith had several dialects over 35,000 years, and Basic is a whole other animal. There's tons of leeway as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Aithne Charr]

[member="Knight Mullarus"]

I just ignore the new name... the planet will always be Korriban to me.

 

[Jsc]

[member="Knight Mullarus"]

*Canon* is for lawyers and rule junkies. Do everything you can to ignore it. Sometimes you've just got to say "screw it" and enjoy the RP.

 

[Davin Jusik]

[member="Knight Mullarus"]

Korriban for me, too ingrained in the psyche at this point.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Anyone who has travelled in Europe will know that some countries have multiple names for the same place. Mons/Bergen for instance.

I ignore almost all the cartoons so yeah.

 

[Mak Manto]

Look, I love what George Lucas did, what he has done, but the man is... extremely disappointing in many ways.

He did what he did over the course of close to 40 years to make money on Star Wars. Now, there's nothing wrong with that. He had an amazing idea and after the old trilogy was finished, the fans wanted the galaxy to continue on, which came the expanded universe. He made a MINT off of it.

But I don't like it when he comes in and goes "Oh, that was never part of my vision. We're removing that completely..." You signed off on everything...

Plus, the guy is not able to remember what he has said half the time...

For example, Lucas stated back in 2014 there's no way that a non-lightsaber could block a lightsaber. Well, that automatically is wrong, since what we saw in Episode III directly disproves that.

At the beginning of the movie, when Obi-Wan and Anakin are battling the MagnaGuard's, the droids are using electrostaffs; those aren't lightsabers, and they were specifically wanted by Lucas himself, since he wanted a non-lightsaber melee weapon that could combat a lightsaber.

Plus, I think he's been acting like a big baby recently with saying he didn't like the Force Awakens and that the deal with Disney was like selling his kids to white slavers...

I know why he's angry: the film's a massive success and gunning to be the largest box office in history and his original idea, of how younger characters would be the main leads, such as with Jake Lloyd in Episode I, Disney knew this had the making of becoming a potential nightmare.

 

[Virgil Foss]

Gorge Lucas has proven over and over to be less than competent at this whole world building thing. You should look at deleted scenes and rejected storyboards from the original trilogy. They were so good (and yet I still don't like them) in spite of him more than because of him because some people with experience and talent cut out all of the stupid stuff he wanted to put in. The prequels are only terrible because at that time he had the clout to keep away anyone who would mess with his vision and was able to make those movies basically unopposed. So it's really no surprise that he continued to make really odd knee-jerk decisions during the time that he still owned the franchise. Just about every Star Wars game and cartoon had to go through him before it could be made. The meetings with George became something to dread for the people working on the show or game because he would spend the entire meeting coming up with really bizarre ideas and twisting the ideas given to him by the creators into something that would often ruin the whole premise.

One example being a game that revolved around Darth Maul's past that ultimately didn't happen. It was planned to have two parallel timelines that you played in back to back chapters. One as Darth Maul and the other as a Twi'lek Sith taking place far in the past. Despite that pitch, Lucas walked up to these figures of Maul and the Twi'lek made as prototypes for merchandising, moved them close together, and said, "They're friends!". The developers sighed and explained that while that would be cool, they exist hundreds of years apart. That's when Lucas suggested that the Darth Maul in the game wasn't actually Darth Maul, but a descendant or a clone. Which would mean that the Darth Maul in the film was a descendant or a clone since Maul's timeline takes place before Episode I. These meetings basically became a circus where the devs or show runners would nod and smile and then throw out Lucas' ideas as soon as he left the room.

The only thing Lucas wasn't called in to influence (to my knowledge) was the Old Republic era games. He gave BioWare and Obsidian full reign since it took place such a long time before his movies. So, when something from that time period showed up in a show he did have reign over, he immediately changed the name.

So do I call it Moraband? No. Mainly because I can't stand George Lucas as a filmmaker or general idea man. However, people are free to call it that as they wish because, as people have said above, countries and cities in our world have different names depending on who you ask so it isn't unheard of for a planet to have the same distinction in the Star Wars universe.

 

[Selena Halcyon]

The fact that people get worked up over this is so laughable to me. Things change name over time. There is nothing wrong with the planet having two different names.

Mainly because I can't stand George Lucas as a filmmaker or general idea man.

Yet here you are on a Star Wars RP board. RPing using source material that directly comes from the mind of the filmmaker and idea man known as George Lucas. Hilarious. Can't believe people can call themselves star wars fans and dislike Lucas or half the movies. Comical.

 

[Dezoti]

[member="Selena Halcyon"]

To be fair, there's way more lore in the EU that he didn't direct that could have brought people here. Devils advocate and what not.

Morriband, Koriband, doesn't matter to me. I know which planet people are talking about, and I think its neat to represent different names for the same place. The galaxy is huge, with many many species. Wouldn't be impossible for there to be ten names for one planet, let alone two.

 

[Selena Halcyon]

[member="Krest"] My counter point would still be that it is all derivative of Lucas though. Therefore, how can one be that repulsed by Lucas as an idea man when the ideas were at minimum inspired by his work, and are all in the universe he created.

 

[Ra Vizsla]

There is nothing wrong with the planet having two different names.

Agreed, but it just felt so @#$%ing unnecessary.

 

[Selena Halcyon]

Agreed.

 

[Mak Manto]

It's not that I don't like him, quite the opposite, but I think in many ways he was hoping for this film to fail, that people would say "Disney failed at the idea of Star Wars, that Lucas should've been in charge of the movie" and when it didn't, he became very angry at the fact that someone was extremely successful where he hadn't with the prequels.

I love the prequels, I do. However, as a fan, I can see major problems with them and understand why lay people who watch Star Wars can be turned off when watching them.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

In Disney we trust™

 

[Coren Starchaser]

New Canon > Legends

 

[Nyx]

Whatever people want to call it doesn't matter much.​

As long as people know what you're talking about, who cares what you call it.​

It's always be 'that place with the dead Sith' to me.​

 

[Virgil Foss]

Yet here you are on a Star Wars RP board. RPing using source material that directly comes from the mind of the filmmaker and idea man known as George Lucas. Hilarious. Can't believe people can call themselves star wars fans and dislike Lucas or half the movies. Comical.

I will forever be grateful to Lucas for creating the franchise, but I still have not found myself liking a single Star Wars movie until the new one. He laid the groundwork, but a majority of the things I actually enjoy about Star Wars were things that other people did with it and everything I dislike involves work that he did. Everyone is entitled to some good ideas, but as a whole I find that Lucas has more misses than hits and said hits do not make up for the misses in my opinion. Not to mention that a lot of the brilliance people cite involves literary scholars bending over backwards and digging into ancient Chinese writing tropes and styles like the Star Wars Ring Theory in order try and make his saga sound coherent and well thought out.

Also, it isn't your place to decide whether or not people can call themselves a fan of something just because they dislike the things you like about it. It's akin to saying that someone isn't allowed to call themselves a Power Rangers fan if they don't like Super Sentai (look it up). I enjoy Star Wars. That should be the only baseline for calling yourself a fan of the franchise. No alpha-nerd gatekeeping nonsense will keep me from loving it no matter how hard you try. It's this kind of petty stuff that turned me off of RP boards years ago so excuse me if I choose not to put up with this kind of toxicity.

 

[The Upright Man]

[member="Ember Rekali"]
Agreed.

Australia alone had somewhere between 350 - 750 languages among the Aboriginal tribes (prior to the British invasion). This is just one continent, one island. The Star Wars galaxy has 5-20 million sentient species (and countless languages within each species), if Korriban is known as a different name elsewhere, I can dig it. If it has 200 different names, I can dig it.