Looking for a Vapaad Master or master of an uncommon Lightsaber form

[Darth Vaildra]

I am wanting Hakora to become more skilled with the Lightsaber and begin working on mastering it's use. My goal is to hopefully become known as the Vapaad Master of this site with no equal in the style. An almost impossible goal, but I like to aim high and then I will land higher then if I aim for lower goals. Prefer a light side Master, but will accept Dark Side Master if I need to.

 

[Malachite the Shoki]

[member="Hakora Cinthra"]

I could teach you to channel energy along your saber, but I have a feeling you already do that... I don't have any other really crazy stuff I could teach you on any of my alts...

My ulterior motive is to teach Vapaad to Mal, but that's another story.

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Malachite Avachei"]

He can do it, but it would be better to have formal training so if you want to start a thread...

 

[Malachite the Shoki]

[member="Hakora Cinthra"]

Formal training might be interesting, because I don't hold any sort of FU rank at all. But power-wise, Mal would probably be a knight.

I'll start it soonishly. Might be tomorrow, though.

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Malachite Avachei"]

Rank is nothing when it comes to training, a padawan can train a master, look at obi wan and gen

 

[Malachite the Shoki]

[member="Hakora Cinthra"]

I guess...

Plus, it's possibly better to not have Malachite constrained that way. *shrug*

 

[Saran Drast]

[member="Hakora Cinthra"]
Vapaad is rare and dangerous. You're most likely to find it as a Sith's domain if you want to learn it. Most Jedi Won't teach.

If you want alternative forms, though, Saran's a Trakata specialist. Could probably teach you that, if you like.

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Saran Drast"]

Hakora knows Vapaad, I want him to master it so he needs someone more skilled then him. Vapaad is rare and dangerous so I know it is a fluck if I find a user.

I wouldn't mind learning that.

 

[Ellie Mors]

I never really gave much thought to learning it. I suppose I was too into using Niman to take advantage of telekinetic gifts with Makashi than to use styles that put more emphasis on physical strength that I didn't have.

 

[Saran Drast]

[member="Silara Vantai"]
That.... Is an impressive skillset. Niman is underrated, if you ask me.

Vapaad get too much of a spotlight. The best users are psychopaths with a lot of self-discipline. Doesn't happen often. And it's draining, evn more than Ataru. There are so many ways to fight. Many of them much better than form 7.

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

Best Juyo/Vaapad Users are people like me.

The best users are psychopaths with a lot of self-discipline

Yes ^^ Its a Form that will utterly destroy someone but its very weak against Force Based attacks. A mix of all forms is best or your own made up one if you can

[member="Hakora Cinthra"]

 

[Reverance]

In the end, it comes down to not your character knowing how to fight the style, but you as a writer knowing how to write it properly. Probably why I stayed away from Vapaad...well, that and back when I started writing, everyone and their mom loved that form cause Mace Windu. So I stuck more with Form II and Form V. Reverance, and how I write him, is perfect for the form (calm sort of psycho)...but meh, fought against it enough to know I don't much care for it (not the style, just not into the writing of it).

Good luck finding someone to train your dude on it, though.[member="Hakora Cinthra"]

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Saran Drast"]
[member="Kezeroth the Hateful"]

No offence, but I think neither of you know what you are fully talking about. Both of you are describing the weaknesses of Juyo, not Vaapad. Vaapad's creators knew all 6 forms and had mastered them before mastering Vaapad. This being even though Juyo is weak against the force, you techniques of another form and you counter that weakness. Juyo relied on strength, but Vaapad relies on the force and the opponent's power and turns them against the opponent. This means that in the hands of a true vaapad master it is superior to the other forms as it requires so much to become a true master and thus it requires a very powerful user. Read this whole thing, I have multiple times so I can understand my style:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Form_VII:_Juyo_/_Vaapad

[member="Reverance"]

This is true that it is hard to write, but there is a reason I chose it and can write it. I have RP'd since 2006 and at that time my character in a bleach RP and all my characters for that matter (Always named Hakora) used this
http://kenshin.wikia.com/wiki/Hiten_Mitsurugi-ry%C5%AB
This style is very similar to Vaapad and so I find it easy to write. Plus, unlike most writers on here, I have actually studied the use of a sword and know how to use it very well. Most on here get there knowledge from movies or shows and can't understand what is and is not possible and how to perform attacks and parries correctly while I know them very well.

 

[Reverance]

[member="Hakora Cinthra"] Neat. I wouldn't say it's hard to write, just a different style of fighting than say Makashi.

edit: It wasn't my intent to imply that you didn't know how to write sparring and what not. I'm sure you are quite capable. I was just stating, in general, that being able to write a fighting style goes beyond checking off a box in the bio (as you obviously are aware).

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Reverance"]

I know you weren't, I was actually agreeing with you by saying it is hard to write, but I felt up to the task because of the above words.

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

No offence, but I think neither of you know what you are fully talking about.

That hurt mann.

If your gonna learn Vaapad I advise you to Refine all the other lightsaber forms. Since Vaapad kinda demands that before even looking at Vaapad. That includes Juyo [member="Hakora Cinthra"]

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Kezeroth the Hateful"]

I said no offence for a reason, you are quite knowledgeable and skilled, but no one can know everything.

I am aware I need to master other forms, hence I made this thread, but it seems to be only an argument on the down side of Vaapad which is side because I keep looking for help in training on this site and never find it for any of my characters.

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

Self Training is always an option. Can be like Magneto!

 

[Soliath Devin Talith]

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Juyo=Vapaad. Vapaad is simply the JedI drawing on his own emotions and inner turmoil (skirting the darkside of the force)to drive himself into a state of constant energy and movement. Its more of a state of mind than a lightsaber form and is stated to use the same steps as Juyo. Quite literally says that on the wookieepage.

If you want people to teach you you should try being a bit nicer and more respectful in the way you talk to them.

 

[Darth Vaildra]

[member="Soliael Devin Talith"]

I am direct and if someone critches something I say then they should expect I will retort if I have one.

To say Juyo=Vaapad is the same logic to say Soresu= Shien/ Djem So

Like Form V is the answer to the weakness of Form III, they are two distinct forms that are just as different as they are similar.

In order to notice differences in Lightsaber Forms it helps to understand real like sword forms as they are based off the use of the sword. To an untrained person, sword styles will seem no different, but to a trained person the styles have slight or vast variations that make their use completily different. For example, Juyo is more concerned with physically over powering the person and is meant to make short fights because to use pure Juyo for too long with make the user tire faster then the defender. Juyo is also more concerned in frontal attacks with slight side attacks meant to be a sort of frontal assualy.

Vaapad is different in tese ways. Vaapad utilizes speed first and the strength it uses comes from turning someone strength against them (much like Form V) It also uses wider movements and like Juyo it is frontal, but also like Ataru it uses quick strikes and wide arches mixed with wide movements such as more side strikes and even backstabs if you can manage to get around the defender.

Juyo =Vaapad, yes, but also Form I- Form VI= Vaapad. Vaapad is a master form meaning it is the combination of all the forms and is rare that someone can become a master of it. Vaapad is the answer to the weakness of Juyo, but the answer to the weakness of Juyo means you must master all forms because Juyo is so aggressive and powerful hence why it is considered the Sith form. Sith want power so they chose Juyo usually.

Do not be mistaken though, Vaapad, like all forms, has it's weaknesses.