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Major Faction Alignments

Discussion on the various factions and their alignments prompted this. I've made this as a way for constructive discourse on the natures of the current major factions.

This is not meant to incite OOC ire, since this is simply a cohesive examination of the IC attitudes and actions of various factions. Facts, if you will. So please, do not discuss OOC actions or writers in this thread as that would very quickly lead toward the opposite of constructive discourse.

Let's keep this a logical, fun, respectful discussion.

Galactic Alliance - Is, as many governments are, a neutral entity. It has been called an imperialist faction. In the sense that it expands, I suppose it is Imperialist. It has done some controversial things, but generally tries to protect sapient rights. For instance, Ugohr Poof killed a group of civilians due to indiscriminate use of force. Ugohr was court martialed and imprisoned. On balance, however, the Alliance is simply another leviathan, meant to impose galactic governance in the place of nature's brutish state. Lawful neutral seems accurate.

First Order - While aliens are welcome, you would be hard pressed to find many here. If repeat use of chemical weapons were not enough to color it "evil," employing the iconic stormtrooper, providing refuge toward mass murderers such as the Zambrano family, and endorsing the dark side cult of Ren all seem to indicate a strong lawful evil vibe.

Outer Rim Coalition - Seems to be one step above anarchy and, in truth, is less about government than freedom. More of a libertarian haven where smugglers gather. Generally, it seems to attract those with a strong sense of sapient rights, but a penchant for disregarding the rules. Loose cannons with a less stringent sense of morality might tend to be a problem, but on balance ORC seems more good than evil. Chaotic good.

Primeval - A group of radical extremists who tramp about in cathedral ships and lay waste to the tenements of peaceful societies. Need more be said? Chaotic evil.
 

Tanomas Graf

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I've got a few up my sleeve.

Galactic Empire (Imperial Remnant) - Designed to embody 'ends justify the means', the Remnant was first created to become a bastion of 'true' Imperialism (As in the Imperialism of Palpatine's Galactic Empire. They have no qualms about bombing worlds, releasing bio weapons that reanimate the dead on enemy noncombatants, and enslaving races that resist Imperial rule, but only if its necessary to acheive their true quest; To bring order to the Galaxy. I myself would classify it as Lawful Evil, but I'll let others debate that.

The Order of the Sacred Lotus - A front for Sith Lords A Jedi faction that holds true to the original Jedi code, instead of being used as soldiers and leaders, they are instead healers and diplomats. They have proven this time and time again, most recently during the invasion of Mustafar did they enter the battlefield as a neutral party rather than as an ally of one of the factions participating. I'm torn as for classifying it, but it seems to be around the True Neutral/Lawful Neutral to Lawful Good/Neutral Good portion of the spectrum.

The Mando'ade - The official enclave of the mandalorians after the catastrophe of Mandalore several months ago. Instead of the warmongering crusades of their predecessors, these mandalorians would rather rebuild in peace, opting to take on mercenary work for the faction that pays the best. This is insinuated by their role as bodyguards of Sacred Lotus Jedi during the Mustarfar offensive. I'd classify them as True Neutral.

The Dominion - Now this is a wild card in my honest opinion. They have a senate, as well as a force order that accepts both Jedi and Sith, along with another enclave for mandalorians. I haven't seen them in action that much, but I will give them a classification of Lawful Neutral for now.

If I'm wrong about some of the points I've brought up, everyone is welcome to correct me.

[member="Ryan Korr"]
 
The Order of the Silver Jedi:

An Order of Jedi that focuses on the protection of the defenseless and standing up to the forces of darkness, they do not rule over the worlds in their care but rather act as guardians and peacekeepers, leaving the various governments to govern themselves without political influence from the Jedi and, if requested, helping to improve the living conditions of the various locals. Slavery is abolished within Silver-protected space, and the Order commands the overall military forces consisting solely of volunteers willing to join the galactic theatre of war. There is no set Jedi Code, allowing each member to follow their own interpretation of the various existing ones. Sith and darkside worship is forbidden.

Obviously I'm biased, but I'd classify the Silvers as Lawful Good.
 
Free Worlds Coalition - A loose trade and defense alliance between the worlds of Alderaan, Kuat, Balmorra, Humbarine, Neimoidia, and Tesforam. It has no military but there is an elite law enforcement unit called the Coalition Rangers, and a force order dedicated to investigative work rather than combat; with a view that the force is a tool to be used. rather than a philosophical matter.

As well, the Coalition worlds are independent within themselves with their own defense forces, and an allowance to pursue their own goals and have their own motivations.

I'd definitely say that's Chaotic Neutral.
 

Zeradias Mant

Democracy Dies in Darkness
Galactic Empire (Imperial Remnant) - Designed to embody 'ends justify the means', the Remnant was first created to become a bastion of 'true' Imperialism (As in the Imperialism of Palpatine's Galactic Empire. They have no qualms about bombing worlds, releasing bio weapons that reanimate the dead on enemy noncombatants, and enslaving races that resist Imperial rule, but only if its necessary to acheive their true quest; To bring order to the Galaxy. I myself would classify it as Lawful Evil, but I'll let others debate that.
Obliterating societies, utilizing biological warfare, playing god, coercing assimilation, and enslaving dissenters all sound like chaotic evil, regardless of their objectives. Do the means truly justify a goal that anyone sane would realize is impossible to attain?

[member="Tanomas Graf"]
 
"Obliterating societies, utilizing biological warfare, playing god, coercing assimilation, and enslaving dissenters all sound like chaotic evil, regardless of their objectives. Do the means truly justify a goal that anyone sane would realize is impossible to attain?"

Ancient Egypt did all of those but biological warfare. Would you say they were chaotic evil?
 
[member="Vrak Nashar"]. Considering there are whole books that still oversimplify the natures of ancient civilizations, I doubt we would be able to write any length of posts that would truly be considered enough justification to slide it into one category or another of a DnD scale. However, let's just say we will use the reign of Ramses II since that is really the only one most people know about anyway.

By today's standards, it is lawful evil.

In fact, almost any "government" is going to be lawful aligned. Major factions that are less governments and more collectives, like FWC, Lotus, and ORC are going to be more chaotic.

Saying an imperialist government is "chaotic" merely because it uses horrific means to accomplish a questionable end sweeps under the rug most of the "lawful" governments in human history.
 
[member="Ryan Korr"]

Okay I agree there.

Mostly because even the USA for instance has partake in none too pleasant tactics during times of war and conflict.

Really the question is kind of an odd one because the alignment system was made for Characters and sizing it up to governments is more difficult. Most governments are lawful good to their own citizens, but could be chaotic evil to non-citizens(like Augustus' Rome). Same goes for many Gocernments on SWRP.
 
Zeradias Mant said:
Obliterating societies, utilizing biological warfare, playing god, coercing assimilation, and enslaving dissenters all sound like chaotic evil, regardless of their objectives. Do the means truly justify a goal that anyone sane would realize is impossible to attain?
As I recall, the Empire obliterated societies, utilized biological warfare, coerced assimilation, and enslaved dissenters. Yet we consider it lawful evil, so therefore you must consider the IR(GE) lawful evil unless you change your mind about the Galactic Empire. And you are forgetting the "end" which justify these "means"; an ordered, and lawful society.

Also, Graf never played God, not as Emperor, or as Grand Moff, that was a joke done by another member of the faction that Graf never even dignified with a response (IC).

[member="Zeradias Mant"]
 

Zeradias Mant

Democracy Dies in Darkness
[member="William Kerkov"]

I wasn't referring to stroking egos, I was referring to the reanimation of the dead.

There are lawful societies with order that live in peace that are brought into turmoil because of the installation of supposed lawful, satellite societies. However, these breed nothing but dissent, conflict, and subsequently, chaos - such is the case with the CIS on Onderon. Unification of peaceful societies is quite different than the forced adoption of other imperial ideals, no matter how much supposed law and order are instilled.

Imperial =/= Lawful
 
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Let's keep this thread fixed on this site's factions please. Real world comparisons should be reserved for another location.

Pretty much all governments are going to be lawful if they have a system of state power and laws. A collective like ORC or SJO are still likely to be neutral because chaotic tends to imply anarchy.
 

Isamu Baelor

Protector of The Iron Realm
The Iron Empire - An Imperial faction that utilizes a vassal system. Vassals are afforded a large degree of autonomy, and as such, the Empire does not interfere with their local government. Their cultures, and laws, are left as is. (With the exception of such things as Slavery, Sacrifices, etc. Those are forbidden.) Vassals are expected to contribute a percentage of their armed forces to the Iron Imperial Military, as well as aiding allied planets in their time of need (in the form of credits, food, aid, military, etc)

I'd say we're lawful neutral.
 

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