Mandalorian Government: The House System

[Atin Vendet]

What: The House System, a continuation of government that is tested by time to be effective in the event of collapse.

Why: With so many cataclysmic events, and no due course for a SET determination of Mand'alor, this proposition is to help create a continuity of government in case of the following scenarios.

-Mand'alor Natural Death
-Mand'alor Assassination
-Cataclysmic events

The Mand'alor:
-THE Sole ruler. THE Decider. The tower from which instructions are given. All orders, directives, and motions of the Mandalorian people come from this position.
-This position garnered by working past the other challengers, and then killing the current one. (Unless he or she flees, and then that settles that)

The Houses:
-Un used until now. The purpose of the houses is to represent a political party or aspect of government, and to remain as a formal unification of members of similar ideology and belief, as well as to unite them in a power house of currency and economics.
-The houses may approve worthy challengers, or appose other challengers to the Mand'alor with their own. This is to ensure that not every random joe Schmuck can walk up to the Mand'alor and fight him. Mand'alor is a busy person, with a lot to do.
-The House looks after the clans, and since this is a military setting, would represent high command within the inner clan structure.

The Clans:
-The individual units and families under a given house. The Company level element able to manuever independently from the Mandalorians.
-We must remember that the Mandalorians are, first and foremost, a military unit.
-The families. Supporter of the houses.

The Protectors
-The Guardians of the Mand'alor, enforcers of his law and system
-Ensure the continuation of government, ensure the will of the Mand'alor
-NOT to be confused with the military. Mandalorians are naturally a military. These would be considered a military police

Example: "I am Jekai 'Pup' Almec, belonging to Clan Almec. Clan Almec is pledged to House Dem'adas. The leader of house Dem'adas is Olivia Dem'adas. If I want to be a challenger to the Mand'alor, I must first meet her approval, or fight her. Then, I must fight the challenger from the other house. Then, I will fight the Mand'alor to the Death. However, her word is law. That is part of being in a Military Group. If House Dem'adas fails to uphold the values of Clan Almec, I may appeal to another house Leader to take me, with approval from that house and the Mand'alor. I, as a protector, will enforce the law of the house government, as well as the Mand'alor. If the Mand'alor were to die of natural causes, then the challengers from all houses would meet and fight. If I, as a protector, fail my duties- it is the job of the houses to hunt me down and exterminate me."

[Youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9PBUH6umk[/youtube]


Post thoughts. Should help solidify who is Mand'alor, why, and when.

 

[Kad Tor]

As I've said in PM trying to figure out who Manda'lor should be in a sandbox is near impossible. Be careful about coming in when there are years of IC things which have led to why things are. Work with the factions in place, or start your own. We have a Mando'ade major faction. Come work with us.

These are all things we are working through with our admin team. IC your character may not fit... that's fine too... but right now Manda'lor has always come out of the mando major faction. Now that we have one again... that's likely how it will continue.

 

[Atin Vendet]

As I've said in PM trying to figure out who Manda'lor should be in a sandbox is near impossible. Be careful about coming in when there are years of IC things which have led to why things are. Work with the factions in place, or start your own. We have a Mando'ade major faction. Come work with us.

These are all things we are working through with our admin team. IC your character may not fit... that's fine too... but right now Manda'lor has always come out of the mando major faction. Now that we have one again... that's likely how it will continue.

Did Olivia not challenge? Ive not got access to that faction.

[member="Kad Tor"]

 

[Kad Tor]

Olivia is not part of that faction.

 

[Atin Vendet]

[member="Kad Tor"] , How many mandalorian factions are there?

 

[Amelia von Sorenn]

Define Mandalorian and define faction...

[member="Jekai 'Pup' Almec"]

All in all maybe about a dozen (if including various House and clan factions that link themselves to Mandalorians).

 

[Darth Rixas]

Houses and Clans aren't factions. The Mando'ade is the only "Major" Mandalorian faction atm.

 

[Alkor Centaris]

Mandalorians are an idea. A culture. Not a single faction.

We have no large central government. We did, and it didn't work. The council of Clan Leaders fell apart. Democracy is for the aruteii- let them have their votes and send masses to war in the name of their ideals.

Clans will always exist. They function as autonomous units. The idea of Mand'alor exists to rally the clans behind a single cause. It doesn't always work. People will often disagree, as we see more than a little often on Chaos. That's fine, too.

Unpopular opinion here, as one of the Faction Leaders of the Mando'ade: I don't care if you don't want to join, or even if you don't like the way we do things. That's your prerogative, and I for one won't try to dissuade you. Do your own thing. It's your story. Are our doors always open to you? Absolutely. We would love to write with you. Are we going to be amicable to all of your ideas? Maybe not, but we can always work something out. It's called "Collaboration."

That said, if you don't want to write with us, if you don't like what we're writing, if you don't accept Vilaz's claim to the helm, that's fine. You don't have to recognize any part of our story as yours. Feel free to ignore us or avoid us entirely. If you get in our way, then we'll deal with it- IC. All things, IC.

Short version: not everyone on our faction staff stands behind the idea of a line drawn in the sand regarding who is or is not Mandalorian. It is a long standing tradition that the culture accepts and embraces new ideas all the time.

Write what you want, and with who you want.

All I really ask is that people don't disrupt the story we've built, because we won't do that to you.

 

[Kad Tor]

^ basically this

 

[Tathra Khaeus]

[member="Alkor Centaris"]
I'm just curious.
What would happen were someone supporting this more regimented system beat Vilaz in a fight and take over and enforce it?

 

[Lyth Meran]

yup. i have a minor clan faction that is pretty atypical for the Mando. you may not like it but i will work with you if you id you do the same.

 

[Atin Vendet]

[member="Alkor Centaris"]

1 - nobody said anything about votes. Literally anywhere. No where in that document.

2 - Nobody said anything about clans not existing. ever. Like. No where in that document.

3 - The only OOC I've seen are from people who took OOC offense to IC Ideals. The ideals of my character are just that, in character. Every document I've written also says 'opinion' or has a statement saying that it is just an idea.Matter of fact, I messaged many and thanked them for the RP, and asked for further RP.

4 - Uh. I fully intend to write with you guys. As a traveling Mandalorian preacher, who is opinionated about the idea of saving the souls of his brethren, that's very important in his development.

5 - Nobody ever made the OOC Statement that anybody had to. No conversion is being forced. That was them getting salty from IC actions, of a character's beliefs, and an attempt to strong arm that on an OOC level. Of course I believe it should stay on an IC Level. Regarding IC, however, a challenge was issued from Olivia. We'll see where that goes.

6- As an action, a line was drawn in the sand. It would have been cowardly for my character not to show up, and to send a message by mail isn't how things are done if intending to make a statement. "Strike your banners or you're dar'manda", wasn't an approved thing anyway. But, that said, I've kept things in character thus far and professional, and intend to remain that way on the course of character development.

That said, actually reading some of the things I wrote might be a good way to form an opinion about them.

 

[Alkor Centaris]

Calm down Tex, I was addressing an overall sentiment that's been lingering behind the scenes faaaaar longer than this thread, and while your thread is the venue in which the message has been relayed, you're far from the intended recipient.

People are looking at this because it brings up a topic that gets thrown around every few days on this site. How Mandalorians run things, and who should be running them. I want to make clear to people on every side of the argument that they are free to do as they please.

 

[Amelia von Sorenn]

I was counting a combined of Major and Minor Factions. Currently in the Faction Directory there are 21 Mandalorian Factions (Including Major and Minor, most of them are clan or house specific and at least three of them are Death Watch Factions).

[member="Oron Verd"]

 

[Atin Vendet]

[member="Alkor Centaris"] Gotcha. Redact what I said then, I assumed too much. I owe you an apology.

 

[Lyth Meran]

yeah there had been a " die hard " one true Mando ubermench pure blood sentiment for a while.
thy not to tale this personally.

 

[Alkor Centaris]

[member="Alkor Centaris"]
I'm just curious.
What would happen were someone supporting this more regimented system beat Vilaz in a fight and take over and enforce it?

Hell, if you were in the faction, writing along with the story and it made sense in that capacity, we'd roll with it.

Just challenging Vilaz in a thread out of nowhere is likely to get ignored or.... well... the problem is, our story is long standing, and the people involved aren't going to be thrilled by a sudden jar to what they've been doing for months and months.

The point is, our faction represents the interests of our faction, in such a capacity as it as Mandalorian. It does not inherently represent the interests of all Mandalorian writers.

 

[Alkor Centaris]

@Jekai "Pup" Almec

No apology necessary, mate. Sorry it came off a bit stiff, there's been a lot of tension since that particular thread was posted, and I'm not a fan of it. I was trying to clear the air.

 

[Tathra Khaeus]

[member="Alkor Centaris"]
Easier said than done.
Though I am all for collaboration like you both said, getting something awesome through a shared effort is the best part of collaborative writing.

 

[Darth Rixas]

[member="Amelia Sorenn-Syrush"] *holds up hands* As far as I know the only major Mando faction is the Mando'ade, lol. I'm quite sure that's the case. That was all I meant to point out if not for you then for anyone else wondering and reading over this thread. There's a lot of faction pages for clans, houses, death watch, etc. but that doesn't mean they're all active or moving and rp'ing as a faction, if any are at all.