Perversion of Tython

[Onrai]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]

I don't see anything regarding the Base Delta Zeroing of the Coruscant temple even after he was brought back from being killed by Wyyrlok. Hell, he didn't even destroy the place. Just corrupted it naturally and made it intimidating.

And wait... Are you implying that the Dark Lord is...

 

[Ellie Mors]

This, right here, is why the Galaxy hates us.

Then let them hate us. If the Jedi learn to hate then it is one notch off the ladder, one less place for them to claim higher ground. If they can feel hatred, rage, then they can fall. I am not here to be a PR agent, I am not here to make everyone like me, to like us, I am here to be a Sith Lord and to crush every last vestige of peace and prosperity that the Jedi cling to or have hung on to and rend it like a saber through steel. User their own rage to thwart them, don't simply roll over. We're not a group of Dark Jedi, we are not a neutral group, we are the One Sith whom serve the one and the only Dark Lord of the Sith, the Dark Lord himself. This is an insult and a threat to the Jedi order, not a mere display of what we can do or what we choose to do. This is a reminder that nothing the Jedi build will last, and that they will fall.

 

[Teynara Jeralyr]

[member="Silara"] Speaking as my Sith Lord self, that just makes us petty and spiteful - if you want to show that the Jedi can fall, go blow up another Temple, or kill the Jedi Grandmaster. Obliterating our ancient homeworld just because Jedi once occupied it is our way of saying we really should just destroy the entire Galaxy, one planet at a time. Jedi have been there, too.

Haven't we learned that focusing on the Jedi and seeking their destruction is ultimately what makes the Sith fail? Our focus needs to be on maintaining and expanding our control over the Galaxy in order to impose the Emperor's rule. Not on wasting resources on a planet that the Jedi can no longer access, and that destroying will ultimately damage a massive part of our own history, as much as that of the Jedi.

You'd think the Emperor's will wouldn't be quick so whimsical.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Tython holds no sentimental value to me. Do not be blinded by ancient nostalgia that you were never a part of.

Korriban is the birthplace of the Sith, not Tython.

 

[Onrai]

[member="Silara"] Speaking as my Sith Lord self, that just makes us petty and spiteful - if you want to show that the Jedi can fall, go blow up another Temple, or kill the Jedi Grandmaster. Obliterating our ancient homeworld just because Jedi once occupied it is our way of saying we really should just destroy the entire Galaxy, one planet at a time. Jedi have been there, too.

Haven't we learned that focusing on the Jedi and seeking their destruction is ultimately what makes the Sith fail? Our focus needs to be on maintaining and expanding our control over the Galaxy in order to impose the Emperor's rule. Not on wasting resources on a planet that the Jedi can no longer access, and that destroying will ultimately damage a massive part of our own history, as much as that of the Jedi.
You'd think the Emperor's will wouldn't be quick so whimsical.

^This. And yeah, this is a bit too out there imo for how the SIth are supposed to do things. Even the most ruthless of the Sith Empires left Jedi infrastructure intact in order to acquire and corrupt it. Krayt destroyed the Ossus temple because there were Jedi there. Palpatine didn't really destroy the Coruscant temple - he just killed all the Jedi and began sifting through its lore. Eradicating ancient sources of knowledge isn't what we do - we simply subjugate the galaxy to the will of the Dark Lord(or Emperor, depending on what group of SIth you're talking about).

 

[Teynara Jeralyr]

[member="Darth Vornskr"] The Sith would never have risen had not first our ancestors risen on Tython. It's a planet with much darkness present, as well as Light - it is the birthplace of both orders, in truth, but Korriban is where we first took the name.

 

[Ellie Mors]

order to impose the Emperor's rule.

The Dark Lord's verbal decree was to destroy the Jedi and their allies and to burn the Galaxy. I, and many, witnessed his outrage on Empress Teta during the Mandalorian's last invasion, and some of us were in his personal company during the betrayal of Darth Junra and her immediate death following his command to her and us.

As Sith we do not cling to our past as our future, the past is the past and always will be such. What was will always have been, not always will be. Perhaps we are spiteful, perhaps this may seem petty, but that hardly matters. We are not ruled by the ideals of the Jedi, we do not preserve peace - it is a lie. The most basic of all teachings to the Sith is the Sith Code.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Thus the world should hold no sentimental value for a Sith.

 

[Darth Timoris]

[member="Silara"] Speaking as my Sith Lord self, that just makes us petty and spiteful - if you want to show that the Jedi can fall, go blow up another Temple, or kill the Jedi Grandmaster.

This gets my vote...

 

[Ellie Mors]

This gets my vote...

You just want to hit a blind girl.

 

[Teynara Jeralyr]

[member="Silara"] Peace is a lie only when we don't seek to control the Galaxy. If we do...then it's a reality we impose upon it. At any rate, I oppose this, and will do so ICly if I must. If we have nothing better to do than to show ourselves spiteful and obliterate a world purely because it once held Jedi influence, we do not deserve to rule.

And after you're done with Tython, we also need to destroy Ruusan, Ossus, Coruscant, Yavin IV, Arkania, Dantooine, Rhen Var, Eclipse, Hapes, Reytha, Alaris Prime, Hanoon, Lothal, Ilum, Karsol, Arkinnea, and others besides. After all, if no trace of the Jedi is to remain, we have to exterminate every world they have influenced. If we go so far as to suggest every world they've walked on...

You see my point? We can't rule the Galaxy and go forth to destroy it at the same time. Our war is with the Jedi alone, so they should be the ones to suffer that fate. The planets themselves should not.

 

[Onrai]

[member="Silara"]

Destroying the Jedi can be accomplished without vaporizing the surface of the planet with a Base Delta Zero. As for the Dark Lord's decree - I was a bit busy getting stabbed, crushed, and disintegrated to be paying attention.

As a Sith, I view that the ends justify the means. And when the means are reducing Tython to a planet of ash simply to build on it, when there are other ways to corrupt the planet in order to reach the ends that are desired, such means are to be tossed aside in favor of means that provide the better ends.

 

[Ellie Mors]

And after you're done with Tython

Tython is the origin of the Jedi. It is the only planet we've decided or even thought about doing this to. Other planets can deal with enslavement or what have you, this is to make a point.

 

[Teynara Jeralyr]

[member="Silara"] If you to make a point, go blow up a Temple.

 

[Ellie Mors]

[member="Silara"]

Destroying the Jedi can be accomplished without vaporizing the surface of the planet with a Base Delta Zero. As for the Dark Lord's decree - I was a bit busy getting stabbed, crushed, and disintegrated to be paying attention.

As a Sith, I view that the ends justify the means. And when the means are reducing Tython to a planet of ash simply to build on it, when there are other ways to corrupt the planet in order to reach the ends that are desired, such means are to be tossed aside in favor of means that provide the better ends.

Just to clarify, to vongform the planet entirely as you propose makes the force nexus itself impossible to exist, as would creating a new one. Your idea leaves out the possibility for a force nexus. It should also be noted that Tython does not have much, if any, population to speak of that would be suitable for slave labor.

 

[Ellie Mors]

Kill a grandmaster, another one rises. Destroy a temple, another is built.

Destroy the surface of a planet? I would like to see such be reversed so easily.

 

[Jairus Starvald]

Gotta agree with the sentiment that wrecking Tython might not be the best way to go around this one lol

 

[Onrai]

Destroy the surface of a planet? I would like to see such be reversed so easily.

But it's happened already... Malachor V, Peragus, Sernpidal, Vultar, Shadda-Bi-Boran, Belkadan... A bunch of planets in worse shape than Tython would be assuming you go through with a BDZ. Hell, Vultar was completely disintegrated by the Cosmic Turbine, but it's perfectly fine.

Just to clarify, to vongform the planet entirely as you propose makes the force nexus itself impossible to exist, as would creating a new one. Your idea leaves out the possibility for a force nexus.

Could always leave the part of the world with the Force Nexus un-vongformed, if that's the case.

 

[Ellie Mors]

If you have a better proposal than simply building a new temple, I would like to hear it. If not, simply stating distaste is not enough to change a mind.

Ideas are better than none.

 

[Ellie Mors]

But it's happened already... Malachor V, Peragus, Sernpidal, Vultar, Shadda-Bi-Boran, Belkadan... A bunch of planets in worse shape than Tython would be assuming you go through with a BDZ. Hell, Vultar was completely disintegrated by the Cosmic Turbine, but it's perfectly fine.

Are we talking about the board's lore and history that was hand-waved into existence as a means of a history prior to the Gulag Plague? Because the pinnacle of technology in rebuilding hardly coincides with current tech.