Republic Capital Location

[VlPER]

Great is the angst and infiltration in this thread.

Remember, if we win one invasion against the One Sith they’re reduced to just Coruscant…so it works both ways.

If you have a suggestion about where to relocate, make it, but don't expect it to happen.

*Frowns* I'm kind of with the comment earlier. If that is the attitude from our leaders....why bother with a suggestion? However I'll still make it, just so it can't be said another idea wasn't thrown out there.

Rendili! Move the capital there. They will have to take quite a few planets at that point even threaten the capital again. And in the end, they risk problems with OP by moving so close to their borders. Not to mention they can't surround the capital as they would have to attack OP and push them back to do it. And who knows. Maybe if we can lure the Sith in that far, it might get the OP to fight simply out of fear of being attacked anyway.

Then go after the planet Prankith. Empress Teta has bad mojo for us. Plus the Sith fleet is all up and reinforced there after 2 attacks. If we attack Prankith, we stand a better chance since IC there wouldn't be much troops there. If we take Prankith, the Sith lose most their territory, and then we have a victory behind us to move against Empress Teta again.

Doing nothing and leaving our Capital so vulnerable just leaves the whole faction with a feeling of impending doom. That is hardly conducive for good morale.

Just my thoughts though.

P.S. - I'm not going to touch the blame game for the current situation as I honestly don't care. What happened has happened. Let's move on. I want to fix the problems and move on. But we do need decisive action and we need it yesterday. Let's get those Sith bastards! lol

[member="Diana Moridena "]| [member="Lan Graendal"] | [member="Torill Holgor"] | [member="Memorial"] | [member="Silara Varis"] | [member="Aurelia Saelari"]

 

[Aurelia Saelari]

[member="VlPER"]
If the Republic cannot defend Anaxes, what makes anyone think we can defend Rendili, or Ossus, or Mon Calamari?
Besides, if Rendili is attacked then we'd be in the same situation since that is the hinge of our territory.

No, we should be prepared to press the attack on the Sith and strike them a blow!

 

[Cedric Dorn]

It is not my place to comment on the Republic Capital Location.

I will state however that Anaxes is ICly probably the best choice. It alongside Bastion and Byss are the most famous and powerful "Fortress Worlds" in Star Wars Canon. Taking those planets would be a massive undertaking.

 

[VlPER]

[member="Aurelia Saelari"] | [member="Diana Moridena"]


With all due respect Aurelia. You don't understand the tactically horrid position we are in. The Sith are not after the capital. Their plans are much grander and more humiliating than that. You are thinking to simply. One of the first rules of warfare is to avoid hitting areas where your enemy is strongest if you can avoid it. Look at their present course of action so far in this war. This information comes straight from the enemy. I was just talking to a Sith last night for a good deal of time. She's an old RP friend and always trying to get Viper to fall. But Viper is a stubborn mule. He'd just as soon be buried with the Republic than join the Sith against it. However, I digress.

First they sacked Coruscant, yes our capital. But that's because everyone wants Coruscant. Its a major economic center, and symbol. That is the first psychological blow to hurt the Republic.

After that though, they didn't go capital hunting. Then they went to Caamas. Then Alderaan. And although a famous world, Alderaan isn't THAT impressive to go after until you look at the map for more than two seconds.

According the the faction rules, I quote.

"6. If a Major Faction's Influence Cloud is completely severed into two or more smaller clouds by an Invasion or any other method, the Major Faction loses the cloud(s) furthest away from it's Capital Planet and only retains the cloud it's Capital Planet resides in."


According to the Sith and the faction rules. The Sith's next course of action won't be to attack our stronghold at Anaxes, like you suppose. It'll be to attack our much more vulnerable world of Vulpter. If they win there, all but two planets of the Republic will fall. And then, with you now surrounded and cut off from any resupply and hope of reinforcements, they will finish us all on our precious fortress world of Anexes. But not before humiliating the Republic by wiping out almost all of our held territory first.

Of note, I said move the Capital. NOT our army. Leave the dang army on Anexes, if you really think that is what they are going to attack next. But for god sakes. Get the Capital out of there! If you do as I say and I am wrong, what happens? Nothing. Other than lifting the sense of impending doom from off our shoulders and buying us tons of time to keep fighting on. But, if you don't do as I suggest, and I am right, what happens then....?

I am all for striking back at the Sith. Hell. Send Viper as the vanguard. I volunteer right now to be on the front lines leading the charge. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be prepared for the worst. To not take any action whatsoever is down right negligent, and when looking at the massive amount of evidence to support such a move...I'd consider it treasonable to just sit by and let the Sith continue to dictate the direction of this war.

This whole thing also still supports my suggestion to attack Prakith. I doubt the Sith will be expecting it. And if we win there, we win back one of those fortress worlds that Diana spoke of. WITHOUT even having to attack the heavily fortified position.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="VlPER"]

Still not in the Republic, but I have to point this out.

I brought up the exact issue of a faction losing all of its territory from cloudbreaking, and eventually Tef came in and responded that he's not a bad guy. No one has ever really come close to that happening.

What's to stop the Republic from Capital hopping after a lost invasion? Instead of losing 95% of their space, they lose 5%.

 

[VlPER]

[member="Ayden Cater"]

Because if we lose that invasion. We won't have territory to hop to. 95% of the territory disappears the second we lose vulpter. We don't get to choose which side of the divide we want our capital on after the split. I would be screaming foul if I was a Sith and that happened as the rules on that are very simple and clear

Edit: and I know they will scream foul as this is there plan.

 

[Ayden Cater]

[member="VlPER"]

A misinformed assumption.

Territory loss (and gain) is not final until Tef makes the map. If the Republic lost an invasion, turned around and reinvaded, and subsequently won? Nothing changes on the map.

Thus if the Republic was encircled and would be poised to lose 95% of its territory, all it would need to do is submit a request to move its capital and Tef will do that first before cutting off any lost territory.

 

[VlPER]

If that's the case. That little snippit needs to be added to the rules, and the Sith be informed there grand plan for encircling us is a waste of time.

I mean don't get me wrong. I'm very much relieved. But I suspect you are going to have an angry faction on your hands if what the Sith told me was true.

[member="Ayden Cater"]

 

[Aurelia Saelari]

Thank you for setting the record straight before I could, [member="Ayden Cater"].

Further, Prakith is a dark side fortress world. Attacking it would be extremely difficult on all counts. I am currently considering a new offensive though. If it works then we may get the breakthrough we've desired for a long time.

 

[Cedric Dorn]

[member="Aurelia Saelari"] Is correct. Prakith was the One Sith's first homeworld and is still the seat of one of their major temples. It is well defended for that reason and has considerable development in defenses and fleet status by Titan Industries and the One Sith.

Also, i encourage a new offensive other than attacking Empress Teta again. Srsly, sick of that planet.

 

[VlPER]

Well it sounds like the gorram Sith have fortress worlds practically surrounding us. If they are all fortress worlds, then it really doesn't matter which one we attack first. lol

Also, the Sith I talked to, made it sound like we have to take turns invading. And it is there turn to invade us...is this true? Cuz if not, and we are too afraid to attack fortress worlds currently, what about Widek? Wookieepedia doesn't have hardly anything on that planet. So I assume that place ain't important. Let's hit that. We can chop off a good chunk of what the Sith have. Once we have a victory to bolster morale, let's go after Coruscant or Alderaan. Both would be good morale boosters if we could retake them.

I am all for this new offensive idea though [member="Aurelia Saelari"] . Let's take the fight back to the enemy. No more backstepping. From now on attack! Always attack! I got some people we could call on for aid too. They're mercs. But they I'd imagine better them working for us than the Sith. Do you think you can rally the rest of the politicians to try and kick the Sith in the balls for once? lol

Edit: If Coruscant and Alderaan is still too much to handle. Let's hit Kalist after Widek. We could then take off another big chunk. And that world is another small time nothing.

[member="Diana Moridena"]

 

[Avalore Eden]

No, we don't have to take turns Invading, but a major faction can only perform one invasion at a time. So it all very much depends on current timeline and actions.

I see some people are a bit disheartened by the apparent lack of activity on the Republic's side. Rest assured, the activity is currently all behind the scenes. We have not put a stop-hold on anyone creating threads or RPs, nor have we made any moves to dampen creativity. We've also been in talks with OS about building some story, because frankly we need to focus less on winning/losing and more on story telling, and having fun, and developing great plots. OS leadership agrees, and this is also what they want.

We the admins are entertaining the idea of moving the Capital and have been before this thread was brought up, but at the moment there is no solid stance on it. It's kind of big deal, ICly, and not something that should be done without a lot of thought put into it. We've been watching this thread to see what people think, and we're more than happy to get more opinions on the matter.

As to the idea of making codex submissions on locations for the Republic - anyone can do this. No, you don't need admin approval to do it but it's a good idea to post it up in the pre-factory/codex area and get feedback from before actually submitting it. Mostly just to make sure things are to code and make sense.

Regardless, things are in motion, but things will also take time just like we said from the start. Soon.

But keep talking, people, keep getting ideas and thoughts out there. We love a good brain-session.