Rules Change: Cortosis and Phrik?

[Popo]

Alrighty, folks. Yet again, there's been some "beat the crap outta me for phrik/cortosis" requests floating about so I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to toss up another discussion like what we did with beskar. So, here goes.

The current rules are:

[SIZE=10pt]Cortosis (([/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]Objective[/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]: Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain cortosis ore from any of the following planets: Apatros, Obredaan[/SIZE], Katanos VII, Duro, Bal’demnic, or Bespin [SIZE=10pt]–OR—[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]suffer a devastating defeat at the hands of a Force User Character written by another [/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]writer[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]. ))[/SIZE]

Phrik (( [SIZE=10pt]Objective[/SIZE] : Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain phrikite ore from any of the following planets: Gromas 16, Alderaan, Arkania, Rendili, Bastion, Wayland, Roche Asteroids, Seltos, Demonsgate [SIZE=10pt]–OR—[/SIZE]suffer a devastating defeat at the hands of a Non-Force User. ))

What the proposal would be is the following changes:

[SIZE=10pt]Cortosis (([/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]Objective[/SIZE] [SIZE=10pt]: Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain cortosis ore from any of the following planets: Apatros, Obredaan[/SIZE], Katanos VII, Duro, Bal’demnic, or Bespin [SIZE=10pt]–OR— [/SIZE]inflict[SIZE=10pt] a devastating defeat on a Force User character and have them verify it[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt]. ))[/SIZE]

Phrik (( [SIZE=10pt]Objective[/SIZE] : Perform a mining operation, a raid, an excavation, or steal to obtain phrikite ore from any of the following planets: Gromas 16, Alderaan, Arkania, Rendili, Bastion, Wayland, Roche Asteroids, Seltos, Demonsgate [SIZE=10pt]–OR— [/SIZE]inflict[SIZE=10pt] a devastating defeat on a Non Force User character and have them verify it.[/SIZE] ))

Thoughts? Questions? Comments? Ideas?

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

I can go along with this. I reckon it's way more difficult to actually find someone willing to throw a fight just so their opponent can claim their reward, than the other way around.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

I think this is a good idea. We did it for Beskar.

 

[Lief]

I like this for the same reason as the Beskar one -- it provides a real challenge.

 

[Ayden Cater]

Agreed wholeheartedly.

 

[Popo]

In Favor:
[member="Ayden Cater"]
[member="Kyra Sol"]
[member="Thurion Heavenshield"]
[member="Tamara"]

Against:


Abstained:

 

[Ilias Nytrau]

All for it, mate.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

I object on the grounds that it'll make it an actual accomplishment to get more powerful things.

Oh wait. Did I say "object?" I mean "friggin' please do this yes please now please."

 

[Asemir]

I object because I am going to ask someone to throw a fight so I can incorporate phrik and cortosis to supplement the quantum armor of my Sun Crusher Mk XXIII.

 

[Darth Kentarch]

Abstain.

 

[Ashin Varanin]

As with beskar, I'll vote no. I recognize the validity of the argument, but on balance I'd rather see a few thrown fights than people pulling out all the stops to win, maybe strongarm people into confirming it, etc.

 

[Popo]

Posted Today, 04:50 PM
In Favor:
Ayden Cater
Kyra Sol
Thurion Heavenshield
Tamara
[member="Fabula Cavataio"]
[member="Ilias Nytrau"]

Against:
[member="Rasho the Hutt"]

Abstained:
[member="Darth Kentarch"]


Anyone not mentioned either did not state clearly what their vote was or has not voted yet.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

I think motion has carried.

 

[Asemir]

I believe I objected quite clearly.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

Actually, I'd like to postpone ratifying this vote in order to give a bit more discussion on @[member=Rasho the Hutt]'s point. It's valid, and now that I've heard it, I am worried about it.

 

[Ayden Cater]

While I feel that people throwing fights is inherently worse than those trying desperately to win, I'd certainly be open to hearing [member="Rasho the Hutt"]'s argument.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

If it happens, the player makes a report and an RPJ steps in. I don’t see the issue.

 

[Fabula Caromed]

OOC bullying is the issue. OOC drama which players may be hesitant to bring up and may never report. They're infuriatingly tight-lipped about "private drama," even when that drama is a legitimate complaint.

 

[Popo]

I can see [member="Rasho the Hutt"]'s point and I can understand that OOC bullying is an issue. Personally, I'd rather give this a shot and see how it works and if it doesn't, we can just go back to the original rule set.

That said, what about doing a different objective? There are other restricted materials that don't require anything PvP oriented. Why not come up with an alternative?

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Fabula Cavataio"]
I don't see how we can legislate what people might or might not do, or what they might or might not report.
If they don't go to an RPJ about a problem they have no right to complain about it.