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Sarge's Guide to The Force and its Users
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nihil
[member="Darth Vornskr"] Right, I know you don't. But that doesn't mean that grey doesn't occur.
The idea of a gun barrel wearing down from use is hardly something inaccessible to people writing in sci-fi forum. But...Okay, cool.
Sarge Potteiger said:
The idea of a gun barrel wearing down from use is hardly something inaccessible to people writing in sci-fi forum. But...Okay, cool.
The Red of Sinner
Battle Sister
[member="Darth Vornskr"] [member="Darth Vitium"]
Xanatos
Haazen
Sedriss
Joruss C'Baoth
So far this is my list.
Xanatos
Haazen
Sedriss
Joruss C'Baoth
So far this is my list.
Marcus
Character
Incorrect in what?Darth Vitium said:
Darth in wookiepedia
There is no mention of Dark Jedi. But hundred mention of Dark Lord of the Sith. Darth may not literally mean Dark Lord of the Sith, but Sith have use it for thousand of years. Only one mention about Dark Jedi is the Dark Jedi who conquear Sith homeworld. But that's it.
Veino Garn
Saaraai-Kaar
Excellent write up, and moderation is why Veino has, in all honesty, never won a fight. He's survived them, which really is what winning is all about in fights, and even fought one or two to a draw. But as I go off the movies and their more low-key Force usage, he really doesn't have the power or skill to take on many of the other FUs on the board that go more off the EU.
The Red of Sinner
Battle Sister
And I am done with this. There is a clear difference between the two.
In how they work
What they want
What they do
What they can achieve
Who was first
How they think
How they feel
and so much more.
There is a difference, and I would not at all like being compared to the Sith.
In how they work
What they want
What they do
What they can achieve
Who was first
How they think
How they feel
and so much more.
There is a difference, and I would not at all like being compared to the Sith.
RC 212
HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPO!
Dark Jedi are Sith with different beliefs. For example Lisa follows this code.
Peace and passion are relative, survival is all that matters.
By surviving I gain longevity, through longevity I gain influence.
Through influence I can be free
Through Freedom I can thrive.
Only I can determine my destiny.
I am equal with the Force.
Nothing super Jedi or Sith like here at all....
Eternal Father
None of those could hold a candle to the Exiles, who bent an entire civilization to their will, created monsters and artifacts of power that few have been able to replicate in modern times, and built a legacy that would last for thousands and thousands of generations.
They're powerful in their own right, but don't delude yourself into believing their exile-level.
[member="The Shadow King"]
They're powerful in their own right, but don't delude yourself into believing their exile-level.
[member="The Shadow King"]
Sarge Potteiger
Emotional Damage
The point of the guide is to remind people of the fact that the Force does not make you superhuman.
If you wish to debate the fact that Dark Jedi and Sith are/are not the same thing, I kindly suggest you take it elsewhere.
If you wish to debate the fact that Dark Jedi and Sith are/are not the same thing, I kindly suggest you take it elsewhere.
The Lion King
This. ^Sarge Potteiger said:
B E A C O N
[member="Sarge Potteiger"]
I appreciate the message, even though I do not wholly agree with the contents.
Edit: In regard to the OP.
I appreciate the message, even though I do not wholly agree with the contents.
Edit: In regard to the OP.
THE Wookie Jedi
Wow... This Thread got Dark..
Darth Imperatus
Character
My veiws on the Sith/Dark Jedi debate:
Throughout the centuries, the Sith have manifested themselves as an organisation. First they were a species, then the aristocracy of an Empire, then a cult, then military dictators, and now they are once again the aristocracy of a new Sith Empire; the One Sith. Dark Jedi are simply people who use the Dark Side but are not affiliated with this organisation. Remember, in the Original Triology, the word "Jedi" was a blanket name applied to all force users, the word "Sith" was not used in the movies until the Phantom Menace. There were the light side Jedi and the Dark Jedi, and the Sith are a recurring organisation within the Dark side. These days, they make up the majority of the followers of the Dark Side, but there are still those who do not fit into that sub-group; they are simply called Dark Jedi.
Throughout the centuries, the Sith have manifested themselves as an organisation. First they were a species, then the aristocracy of an Empire, then a cult, then military dictators, and now they are once again the aristocracy of a new Sith Empire; the One Sith. Dark Jedi are simply people who use the Dark Side but are not affiliated with this organisation. Remember, in the Original Triology, the word "Jedi" was a blanket name applied to all force users, the word "Sith" was not used in the movies until the Phantom Menace. There were the light side Jedi and the Dark Jedi, and the Sith are a recurring organisation within the Dark side. These days, they make up the majority of the followers of the Dark Side, but there are still those who do not fit into that sub-group; they are simply called Dark Jedi.
Sarge Potteiger
Emotional Damage
[member="Darth Vitium"]
That's the wonderful thing about guides. They're an opinion. They won't be perfect, or nail every single point of fact. I appreciate you, and [member="Reverance"], taking the time to read it even if you disagree with some of what I said. It is my simple hope that someone reads this and goes 'ya know what, maybe I don't need to pull a star destroyer from orbit.'
That's the wonderful thing about guides. They're an opinion. They won't be perfect, or nail every single point of fact. I appreciate you, and [member="Reverance"], taking the time to read it even if you disagree with some of what I said. It is my simple hope that someone reads this and goes 'ya know what, maybe I don't need to pull a star destroyer from orbit.'
B E A C O N
[member="Sarge Potteiger"]
Indeed. I was glad that someone said this, at the very least - in a way that was approachable.
Indeed. I was glad that someone said this, at the very least - in a way that was approachable.
Coci Heavenshield
Dawnguard Grand Master
The Force was just extra to them. Words were the weapon, the lightsaber came second, and only if that failed was the Force to be used.
Spot on!The whole article is very well done.
Jsc
Disney's Princess
[member="Sarge Potteiger"]
That was an excellent read. Not just in words but in spirit. When I put my ego aside and just ponder upon your thoughts, I easily remember why I was drawn to SWRP in the first place. And that is a very special gift of memory indeed. Your emphasis on the selflessness of the Jedi versus the selfishness of the Sith is a great reminder to me, and my characters, of the potential that each of us holds as writers to embody those ideals personally. Every single day we visit the site.
Sarge. Great guide. Thanks for being awesome.
That was an excellent read. Not just in words but in spirit. When I put my ego aside and just ponder upon your thoughts, I easily remember why I was drawn to SWRP in the first place. And that is a very special gift of memory indeed. Your emphasis on the selflessness of the Jedi versus the selfishness of the Sith is a great reminder to me, and my characters, of the potential that each of us holds as writers to embody those ideals personally. Every single day we visit the site.
Sarge. Great guide. Thanks for being awesome.
Finally somebody who has had the same thoughts as I have.Sarge Potteiger said:
But this guide is just amazing. I will have to bookmark it now for future use.
mdlogan
Member
I truly love the idea that the Force was a simple power that allowed you to accomplish things that were beyond the range of normal people, within a believable margin. I have been reading the Thrawn trilogy, and I found that in the first book looks states in thought that not even a Jedi could fall from five stories up and hope to live. While this could easily be pushed away as simply him not being fully trained, I like to believe that while the Force is incredibly powerful, it does not make one a god.
I loved that scene from the Vth movie, where Yoda lifts the X-wing out of the swamp. It showed that a Jedi could accomplish a normally impossible task for one man, while not being this all-powerful being who could do anything. From the same movie, we see Vader choke a man from across the Executor, with only his thought. Throughout all those early movies, what we see for the Force is simply an enhanced jump, tricking the weak minded, choking people left and right, lightning, difficult to understand visions of the future, being able to tell where a blaster shot was going to be in time to deflect it, deflecting a blaster shot with one's hand (probably a mix of the glove and the Force, not sure), sensing other Force users presence, enhanced stamina, and basic telekinesis.
The Force was simple, that was part of the charm. It didn't make you super man, flying around and bulletproof. It made you super human, but not super human. Only two people had power that seemed beyond belief, and those were Yoda and the Emperor. Even they died in the end. They were very powerful, but neither had these god abilities that made them unkillable. Yoda died of age, and Palpatine died of being betrayed and thrown over a ledge.
Then movies I, II, and III came out. They changed the whole game. Force users were practically demi-gods. They could fall from incredibly heights, could leap around like they were insects, and the only way to kill them was trickery on a massive scale and powerful non-Force users, like Grevious or Jango. Dooku, a Sith who was nowhere near as powerful as Palpatine could take out two younger, stronger, and potentially more powerful men. Yoda leaped around as if he were on fire. Palpatine was almost capable of the same. It seemed that those three movies, because they were targeted towards a completely different audience than the original three, dropped the bar that had been set by the original three.
The original trilogy had a feeling to them. They had an emotion around them, that touched me. I love Star Wars because of those first three, and I have watched the other three because I loved those original three. I look forward to the next three because of those original three. The way the Force was interpreted was amazing in IV, V, and VI. It had a more awe-inspiring element to it. Whereas the other three movies made those moves seem trivial. While some of the things they do, the duels with Maul, Yoda vs. Palpatine, Obi-wan vs. Anakin, were very fun to watch, those seem to be one of the only redeeming values of those movies.
Might have gotten off topic there for a bit...I'll just go and pull my soapbox to the side, yes? *Whistles as he walks away*
I loved that scene from the Vth movie, where Yoda lifts the X-wing out of the swamp. It showed that a Jedi could accomplish a normally impossible task for one man, while not being this all-powerful being who could do anything. From the same movie, we see Vader choke a man from across the Executor, with only his thought. Throughout all those early movies, what we see for the Force is simply an enhanced jump, tricking the weak minded, choking people left and right, lightning, difficult to understand visions of the future, being able to tell where a blaster shot was going to be in time to deflect it, deflecting a blaster shot with one's hand (probably a mix of the glove and the Force, not sure), sensing other Force users presence, enhanced stamina, and basic telekinesis.
The Force was simple, that was part of the charm. It didn't make you super man, flying around and bulletproof. It made you super human, but not super human. Only two people had power that seemed beyond belief, and those were Yoda and the Emperor. Even they died in the end. They were very powerful, but neither had these god abilities that made them unkillable. Yoda died of age, and Palpatine died of being betrayed and thrown over a ledge.
Then movies I, II, and III came out. They changed the whole game. Force users were practically demi-gods. They could fall from incredibly heights, could leap around like they were insects, and the only way to kill them was trickery on a massive scale and powerful non-Force users, like Grevious or Jango. Dooku, a Sith who was nowhere near as powerful as Palpatine could take out two younger, stronger, and potentially more powerful men. Yoda leaped around as if he were on fire. Palpatine was almost capable of the same. It seemed that those three movies, because they were targeted towards a completely different audience than the original three, dropped the bar that had been set by the original three.
The original trilogy had a feeling to them. They had an emotion around them, that touched me. I love Star Wars because of those first three, and I have watched the other three because I loved those original three. I look forward to the next three because of those original three. The way the Force was interpreted was amazing in IV, V, and VI. It had a more awe-inspiring element to it. Whereas the other three movies made those moves seem trivial. While some of the things they do, the duels with Maul, Yoda vs. Palpatine, Obi-wan vs. Anakin, were very fun to watch, those seem to be one of the only redeeming values of those movies.
Might have gotten off topic there for a bit...I'll just go and pull my soapbox to the side, yes? *Whistles as he walks away*