Silver Sanctum: Civil War (INACTIVE)

[Connor Harrison]

UNITED WE STAND
DIVIDED WE FALL​

I have few ideas for development these days, and those I have are a bit quirky, but I had one today and wanted just to write it down and get it out there, so bear with me.

I know we have Dominions and Invasions and/or Skirmishes against external forces, but with so many different and contrasting characters within the Sanctum, especially after the merger...what goes down on their own turf?

Basically it's a story inspired by the upcoming 'Captain America: Civil War' movie and existing comic.

It could be one thread, or a number of growing threads that form foundations etc, not sure, but it revolved around two Masters in the Sanctum who have opposing ideas/views/agendas and come to blows, and there is a divide between said Masters who have allies backing them up.

I know it's crazy and probably deemed not appropriate if relations are tested and damaged but I thought something like this may happen in an environment as testing and dangerous as the Sanctums. Obviously it's nothing I see to "break up" the Order at all, far from it. I just saw it as something...different for those interested maybe to work on and out of the ordinary?

I'll be happy to be one of those Masters to take the brunt, the Captain America sort.

Thoughts, ideas? Write 'em down! Shout me downif you must, but do it gently please.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

[member="Connor Harrison"]

Why do I get the feeling you are gunning for Sio? (ICly of course)

I could imagine that would be differences within the faction, with some of the Jedi and darksiders. But not sure if it would blow out to civil war?

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member="Coci Heavenshield"] Scandalous - not at all! Those sort of statements get me a bad rep.

Probably, I just lifted the title as a meaning for internal conflict over an actual "war". I just would be interested how things like this would come to a head internally.

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

[member="Coci Heavenshield"], [member="Connor Harrison"]


In other words, while the Sith are coming to SSC borders, we want to start a 'civil war' because it sounds 'cool' and there's a movie about one.


That makes little sense. I don't recall it going well for the Republic and Primeval.


People fighting and then suddenly going back to be being buddies is illogical. I definitely know Sio wouldn't. She doesn't support unstable nations.

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] [member="Coci Heavenshield"] I wasn't aware the Sith were openly heading for us, but it was something other than Doms and Invasions to try out.

And it was something to address the big shift in unity and various ways of acting within the Sanctum between members, but without exactly trying to kill each other.

BUT...I can't come back after that feedback Miss K!

 

[Siobhan Kerrigan]

[member="Connor Harrison"]


Sith are gonna attack the Republic at Togoria tomorrow. I suppose it's safe say they'll win, given the Republic's track record, so they'll be next door.

And it was something to address the big shift in unity and various ways of acting within the Sanctum between members, but without exactly trying to kill each other.

Ok. That explains it a bit. But I'd suggest changing the title then. While 'civil war' is more eye-catching, it's also misleading. After all, a civil war is kind of about people from the same nation killing each other. I'm cool with tension and conflict, when there's clear IC reasons behind it and it's not merely for the sake of it. I don't see much of a rationale here. Nor do I see a 'big shift in unity'.


If folks attack Siobhan, that's cool with me. But she will not hold back. She doesn't have a no-kill code or anything like that. lol.

 

[Matsu Ike]

ehhh I am with Siobhan on this. Every faction goes internal civil war because it is "cool" and "story" but it never works out that well. A number of jedi who might disagree don't fight they just go elsewhere. Dune and his padawan are a good example recently and they just left. No fuss, no going for an attack on the darksiders. Just returning to work with Shmi. Jedi civil war and differing opinions is why we have a handful of order. Techno Union had a civil war but focused on it only to change over from the Templars to the Obsidian order.

I wouldn't really support it and would likely just remain on the side ignoring it.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

[member="Connor Harrison"]

It's a neat idea, one we can save for a later date, but perhaps we should wait a bit and see what happens with the Sith, etc?

Like [member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] said, having a so-called 'civil war' break out all of a sudden when there is little reason for it seems forced. Especially since all of us are brought together for our fight against the Sith, light or darksider.

 

[Connor Harrison]

See? This is why I don't voice my ideas. It's worse than car crash TV. Sucks being a film fan when you envision something you write with others on the big screen!

[member="Matsu Ike"] [member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] Points taken, and I see your view.

It probably works better in my head and hard to explain via RP I guess. I just was interested in the internal relations, opinions, worries and strengths after everything that has gone on as a Faction.

BUT I don't want people confused, or simply not understanding or worried I would risk splitting the SSC up, because that's not what I wanted. Heck, I helped found the thing so I don't want it to go the way of the Pubs and Primes! Nooo way.

Thank you for your feedback guys.


And [member="Thurion Heavenshield"] - I must have been out the loop for Sith activity as I wasn't aware we were gearing up to actually take them on soon, but that makes sense.

Anything I do or suggest is based on logic and development in a natural way, I'd never want to force a story or actions on other writers. Nope.

 

[Freyia Whitelight-Carrick]

As much as I would love to do something like this right now I really don't think its the right time but maybe we could keep this in mind down the road, when all the factors going on.

[member="Connor Harrison"] yes there is a few things with sith in the works.

As it is I been talking to [member="Valiens Nantaris"] about one such for faction and skimish so if you would like to know more you know how to reach me love

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

See? This is why I don't voice my ideas. It's worse than car crash TV. Sucks being a film fan when you envision something you write with others on the big screen!

What you have to remember is that there are more people than you in just this story. Other writers do have differing opinions. If you want something with no dissent a novel is a better option.

I completely agree with what [member="Siobhan Kerrigan"] says. The SSC is founded as a tolerant group, suddenly turning on people would be out of character, not to mention unwise.

 

[Solomon]

Agree with the majority. Inter factional fighting between Jedi would be a bit too much of a distraction from our real enemies.

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

[member="Connor Harrison"]

Hey man, don't worry about it! ^_^

I'll hear out any suggestion for potential faction storylines. Knowing we have members such as yourself who are so keen on bringing neat ideas to the table is a great feeling as a Faction Owner.

 

[Connor Harrison]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"] You mis-understand; I know perfectly well there are other writers involved - hence the idea being for lots of people. I meant my ideas come off worse than car-crash TV at it's best and I usually keep quiet, and you can see why now. This wasn't about being focused on "me", or causing splits in the Faction or anything like that, as I say I was here from the start and wouldn't let it fall apart. Not at all. The fact I let my imagination get the better of me is my point about being a film fan - you see things at times more than just words.

Everything is IC driven for me and I hope it stays that way because there's no intent for mixing things up or causing friction un-necessarily or turning on each-other in a way that wouldn't be respectful and creative for any and all involved.

I'm not hurt at all this idea wasn't well received because not all ideas can be. I voiced it, it's had feedback. That's just what I wanted.

And I'd rather stay here for a while longer than go read a book on my lonesome! No fun.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

Excellent.

 

[Jsc]

[member="Connor Harrison"] - This was a fun idea. If only Connor had his Bucky.

 

[Coci Heavenshield]

[member="Connor Harrison"]

I am not going to say to much more here, as Sio and Matsu and the others have voiced my opinion on this already. The idea is a good one in essence, and could be used for a faction event in the future. Imagination is limitless, as to why this happens. It could be simply internal struggles with differing opinions between members or even outside influences, like an old relic (not necessarily sith) that effects the mind of the SSC and causes distrust or whatever, etc. So we could come up with something to disrupt harmony.

But it would have to be something big to do so. As I think that because of the way SSC is it would need this. The differing opinions of a few would not rip apart an entire faction. It kinda goes against the light side alignment for a start and most of the Jedi in SSC are friends with the darksiders. I don't like the word tolerance .. never have. It feels to me like it is a forced emotion but that might be part of the idea in the first place.

Also regarding the Sith and the loop you speak of, there is no talks at this moment about us going after them. The talks in which you are a part of is just us speaking about how we can sure up defenses. If they come for us.

So kept the idea in the bag, but think more about it maybe?

 

[Micah tol Powl]

[member="Connor Harrison"] - This was a fun idea. If only Connor had his Bucky.

I nominate [member="Théodred Heavenshield"] to be our Winter Soldier.

The metal arm would look better on him than it would me