The 5 Most Influential People of Different Eras

[sabrina]

[member="Beowoof"] missed that bit, though the doctor is in all times

[member="Alice Red"], he stoped the silk and spices reaching Europe, making some of them expanded into global empires.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="sabrina"] If you are referring to the Silk Route, it somewhat blossomed under the Khan if I'm not mistaken.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Alice Red"] your right, got my empires mixed up, but still forced us to expand

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

Gengis khan had more of an effect, with out him we would still been in the dark ages

I've never once heard a person claim that Genghis Khan is responsible for bringing Europe out of the Dark Ages (which are exaggerated to begin with), much less exert more influence than Jesus. Also, Genghis Khan is from the Middle Ages, not antiquity.

If I got to metaphorically masturbate over people like Saladin and Oda Nobunaga, I'm more than happy to participate in a thread like that.

Best military commanders of the Middle Ages? Thread should happen now.

 

[sabrina]

After his take over we expand into global trade via ships. Jesus had very little influence over anything. It was the politics, done in his name what did. [member="Ludolf Vaas"]

 

[Allyson Locke]

What is antiquity?

My dumb question of the day.

 

[sabrina]

before the collapse of the roman empire, al lot knowledge of that era was kept by the free thinking Muslims.

 

[Grrwunhoooll Agaburry]

1. Jesus Christ
2. Gautama Buddha
3. Gilgamesh
4. Confucius
5. Enoch

 

[Beowoof]

After his take over we expand into global trade, via ships jesus had very little influence over anything. It was the politics, done in his name what did.

While I think there's a bit of a fallacy to what you said, you basically just admitted that Jesus had a massive influence on politics.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="sabrina"] It was the Muslims that forced us to expand and improve in actuality, not the Mongol Horde. The Ottoman Empire, The Mameluks, and the Golden Horde, altho' the later was indeed Mongol, it was later mostly Turkic. One of the reasons the American continent was discovered so early was because the Ottomans refused to allow eastern trade from Asia to reach Europe, and vice-versa, so the west was forced to find ways to establish trade routes, while also avoiding sailing around the entirety of Africa.

The Mongols gave the Muslims a harder time than they gave us honestly. Christianity also had a larger impact on the west simply due to the fact of it being a common banner to unite Europe under, even after the Schism, and a common front to fight against the Muslim hordes from the Middle East. Not to mention the cultural and scientific gains and improvements the church made throughout the years and their role as glue for a society.

[member="Ludolf Vaas"]

Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Ieyasu
Saladin
William the Conqueror

Those are the first 4 that come to mind.

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

It was the politics, done in his name what did.

And that would be also known as... influence. The title of the thread is most influential people of antiquity. Jesus formed the foundation for Western society and government for practically the next two millenia. Genghis Khan doesn't even come close to that level.

[member="Alice Red"]

I think of Charlemagne, and Charles "the Hammer" Martel deserve top spots.

 

[Alice Red]

[member="Ludolf Vaas"]

Charlemagne actually slipped my mind. One of the issues of being so well known I guess, you don't even get brought up anymore because it's too obvious of a choice. As for Martel, that's actually the first time I heard of him. Gonna have to read up.

 

[sabrina]

[member="Ludolf Vaas"] I don`t consider Christianity much to do with Jesus, and more to do with politics. Though on that note, I think should bow out of this conversation.

 

[Ludolf Vaas]

Charlemagne actually slipped my mind. One of the issues of being so well known I guess, you don't even get brought up anymore because it's too obvious of a choice. As for Martel, that's actually the first time I heard of him. Gonna have to read up.

Charles Martel was a karking beast. He never lost a single battle against the Muslims, and in fact only lost one battle in his entire life (his first, against Neustrian France). He kicked the Muslims out of France which spurred on the Reconquista that would eventually send the Muslims packing from Europe completely, subjugated the Frisians, Alemanni, Saxons, Bavarii and various other territories and tribes under Frankish rule, and also established feudalism and knighthood.

Charles Martel was the man.

 

[Aurelio Murtix]

Not really in any sort of order and really leaning towards western/European history since I am sadly not very well versed in other areas besides U.S. (basically the baby of it anyway) and starting to get into South-East Asia.

1. Alexander the Great: Pretty obvious here, he destroyed the Persian Empire as it was at the time, and even made it all the way to parts of India where his image was hailed as a great victor. He tried to merge the cultures of Greece and his Persian conquests, and even though it failed Greek culture became huge in the parts of the western known world for centuries. A bit of a tragic figure, but so are a lot of the big figures in history.

2. Archimedes: The man responsible for one of our most hated subjects in school (XD), he was at the forefront of mathematics in antiquity and it was his work that led to calculus, the area of shapes, and various physical tools like the screw named after him and compound levers. His works have had a great effect on the field of math, which is very important...even if we don't like it that much. He even built some sort of heat weapon that supposedly used mirrors to light the sails of the Roman boats attacking Syracuse aflame!

4. Cicero: A great orator, lawyer, politician, and philosopher who tangled with a lot of the big names of the late Roman Republic. He was trained in Greece and brought a lot of their philosophies back to Rome, and after the collapse of the western empire his writings influenced languages and the spread of ideas up to even the age of enlightenment. Also a bit controversial in a few of his actions, but whateva!

5. Augustus: I think that even though his adoptive father Julius Caesar was the one who paved the way for him, it was Augustus who became the first emperor of Rome and influenced it all the way to its end. His military victories, architectural achievements, and forms of propaganda had great effects which turned Rome into the empire that spread itself far and wide after bringing a lot of territory into it.

 

[Natasi Fortan]

1: The Doctor, without him none of us would be today
2: churchil, he stopped the world for change for worse possible way, by refusing to even try negotiate with hitler.
3: gengis khan, he changed the world from horse back
4: Emperor Hadrian, he kicked the jews out of israel and built walls, this move on the jews has repercussion still today.
5: Albert Einstein, as he was a genius.

Are we redefining "antiquity" to include "anything older than five minutes"?

 

[Evard L'Rik]

1: The Doctor, without him none of us would be today
2: churchil, he stopped the world for change for worse possible way, by refusing to even try negotiate with hitler.
3: gengis khan, he changed the world from horse back
4: Emperor Hadrian, he kicked the jews out of israel and built walls, this move on the jews has repercussion still today.
5: Albert Einstein, as he was a genius.

Trolololololololol...

Anyway, I'd say:

1) Julius Ceasar
2) Hammurabi
3) Themistocles
4) Sun Tzu
5) Alexander the Great

Not the order of importance, just the order that they came off the top of my head.

 

[sabrina]

1. Jesus Christ
2. Julius Caesar
3. Hammurabi
4. The Buddha
5. Alexander the Great

[member="sabrina"], most of your list is not prior to 476 AD.

he already mention it

[member="Beowoof"] missed that bit, though the doctor is in all times

[member="Alice Red"], he stoped the silk and spices reaching Europe, making some of them expanded into global empires.

already explianed

Are we redefining "antiquity" to include "anything older than five minutes"?

no missed it, read all if you going criticize me

Trolololololololol...

Anyway, I'd say:

1) Julius Ceasar
2) Hammurabi
3) Themistocles
4) Sun Tzu
5) Alexander the Great

Not the order of importance, just the order that they came off the top of my head.

not trolling genuine mistake

 

[Evard L'Rik]

[member="sabrina"]

Was joking.... I know you don't troll.

 

[Soeht]

1) This guy.

This motherkarker.

Euclid, author of Elements in roughly 300BC, which still influences people in the modern age. Euclidian geometry is the basis of pretty much all of math. Math is universal and it is spoken in the language that Euclid devised. It's a concept even more basic than that of a state or a culture.

And from this math, you get great technological marvels that have improved the lives of humanity. I would say, Elements has directly and indirectly influenced nearly everyone in the world.

None can compare to the importance that Euclid played in shaping the future.

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