The Invasion of Balmorra

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Minna"]

NWM
Posted

I believe the invasion is over within 48h (the time limit me and Sage bane agreed on before everyone jumped into our fight).

So if nothing very interesting happens I think I am done.
Will you set up a pm asking for the draw?

 

[Minna]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

Sure, I'll get to it when I'm on my PC

EDIT: Which is now.

 

[Minna]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

I know you're done with the invasion, and I can understand why, but if you'd like then Minna's last actions give us the power to do quite alot. Feel free to throw more actions on top of hers, and we could keep them on the defensive definitely until the invasion is over.

 

[Ellie Mors]

I'll make a post after work and birthday stuff. If I'm not drunk, at least

 

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Minna"]

Yeah, I am RL tired. It gas nothing to do with you or your writing.
But, if things change (sometimes the muse returns) I will return to your side. But, I do not think it would be met by cheering tbh

 

[Minna]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

Looks like these discussions on the result are going to take some time. I'll push for that Draw, no matter what.

 

[Antoir Setrrin]

Discussions with Reverance and Ophidia about the results of our duel have started. So far all sides agree that it's a draw. I'm just bringing up the idea of continuing it past the end date for the funsies, like I did with Ferus on Contruum.

 

[Mantic Dorn]

Absolutely,
I was just in a similair situation in contruum with Dracos alt where we both agreed on that Mantic was on top but he did not agree to a loss and it turned to be a draw.
I aint backing whatever they claim.
[member="Minna"]

 

[Minna]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

Quote that if needs be, get that draw

 

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Minna"]

I am sorry to drag you into this, I know it is not pretty.

[member="Taeli Raaf"] [member="Geneviève Lasedri"] [member="Varus Shatterstar"]

It is me again, you might want to prepare to check my battle with .. hrm ... well
It started with [member="Sage Bane"] vs Mantic & [member="Aston Jacobs"]
Then a vong appeared. so 2vs2 in a few posts. Then [member="Kiyron"] - [member="Draco Vereen"] & [member="Vrag"] joined.
[member="Minna"] joined at the same time and also some others who I lost track off.

It ended with Mantic [member="Minna"] vs [member="Draco Vereen"] [member="Vrag"] and [member="Sage Bane"]

Messy stuff and it was all just silly ooc vrag/draco payback because of what happened in the contruum invasion. But we are not admitting that since all we want is fun.... sure...

Anyhow now they want Mantic to loose and I argue that he is not defeated. He has not left the battlefield or otherwise been put out of commission like the terms say is needed for a victory.
You might want to recall the ruling on Mantic vs [member="Agamemnon"] in the contruum invasion. Same story but OS/GR seats shifted around.

 

[Kamon's OOC]

[member="Mantic Dorn"]
If you weren't A) knocked out, or B) didn't leave, then I believe you have the right to argue it's neither a loss or a win, and they cannot claim it's anything other than a draw.

 

[Onrai]

So does this draw mean we lose half the Republic, or no?

 

[Kamon's OOC]

We already lost half the Republic.

 

[Varus Shatterstar]

So call it a draw. You have every right to. Just don't let Vrag or anyone else try and bully you with their fabricated facts and delusions that they're unbeatable.

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

 

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Geneviève Lasedri"]
[member="Barrien Siegfried"]
[member="Varus Shatterstar"]
[member="Ali Hadrix"]
[member="Minna"]
[member="Taeli Raaf"]

For the record -i did claim draw.
But this is [member="Vrag"] and [member="Draco Vereen"] - if things ever was simple...
- we dont have an agreement apart from that they will push for a win and so we are contacting the FAs for ruling. So, its on your table per invasion rules. I still claim draw and have never agreed to snything else.

 

[Varus Shatterstar]

Noted.

[member="Mantic Dorn"]

 

[Ali Hadrix]

Any progress on this?

[member=Mantic Dorn]

 

[Mantic Dorn]

[member="Ali Hadrix"] [member="Geneviève Lasedri"] [member="Taeli Raaf"] [member="Varus Shatterstar"]

No, we stopped pming last night.

They said it would now be a matter for the FAs.
I was assuming you guys already were discussing it.
If not, please start. Me and [member="Minna"] were part of this invasion and in my mind we held back three sith lords. [member="Minna"] was even going for that we could turn the fight to a win. But I sadly did not have the ooc energy for it and we tried to settle for a draw.
Neither of us have ever agreed to a loss.

Regardless our fight occupied three sith lords - Something that should count the GR way in deciding the invasion outcome.

 

[Minna]

[member="Ali Hadrix"] [member="Mantic Dorn"]

I second this. They tried reaching a 'compromise' by offering Minna a draw and Mantic as a loss, as opposed to one overall loss, but the outcome is the same; both result in a point for the OS. A true compromise would be an all out draw, and I'll be dissapointed if that isn't what we achieved.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Mantic Dorn] | [member=Minna]

I for one count victory in shades of gray. (Which is why the argument for my victory battle will likely rage for eons)

Can you provide me a summary of any hits or successful attacks, acts of Dun Moch, etc, that were incurred by both sides?