The Limitis of Realism [Contains Black Ops 3 SPOILERS!]

[Tanith Alde]

I'd Like you all to view this video, and then discuss with me at what point a video game goes too far. I pride myself on not being overly sensitive but This is the first gaming scene that has actually made me uncomfortable

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcWfPdvaOSw

 

[Thraxis]

Holy crap Call of Duty has upped the ante it seems.

Also, isn't this rated R18+? Because if it is it really shouldn't be all that shocking to see violent imagery.
Unless we are talking about two different subject matters.
[member="Sabastian Bane"]

 

[Tanith Alde]

In the country where I reside call of duty has throughtout its itterations been rated for 12 or 16 +, all games rated 18+ Are generally banned in the country. This one was rated 16+

 

[Tanith Alde]

However, my point is this. At what point are games simply going too far? We don't sit around watching human beings being dismembered in agonizing detail, why is this considered allright? I believe in freedom of the press and non censorship, but still unnecesarry gore and brutality like this is what gives gaming a bad name

 

[Isamu Baelor]

[member="Sabastian Bane"]

You do realize that maybe not everyone has played Black Ops 3's campaign yet?

Posting spoilers like that isn't cool.

 

[cheshire_kitty]

Seriously dude? Spoiler tags exist, use them - it's not cool to spoil part of a game for someone.

Thanks for ruining that part of the game for me.

 

[Thraxis]

No, while we do not watch people go through the same punishment, this is not reality, this is a game. Those are the two underlying differences between the two.

Also, while I have not played the game nor do I intend to, what I can assume is the robots are there for opposition, this is to both establish the character since you can see him getting modifications, due to the scene it just showed. This provides backstory for your character and builds tension between you and the opposition, which I assume the robots are. It is not unnecessary it is there to develop a dislike and reason to fight against the robots.
[member="Sabastian Bane"]

 

[Triampheus]

This might have bothered me more if it was clearer. For me it wasn't that easy to tell what was going on, so I just kinda sat back and went "Seen worse, read worse, heard worse". From what I could see... yeah, it's not exactly pretty, so to speak. Does it bother me? Personally, no, not really. I've stumbled my way into a few too many internet videos, watched too many horror movies, and had a few too many nightmares for this to seem that bad to me.

Though I can understand why it might make someone else uncomfortable. While it's not really that realistic (not just in the graphics/animation, but with the fact that the player manages to survive this, despite the fact that they'd be bleeding heavily, likely going into shock, and all that stuff), it is bloody. The voice acting isn't superb, but it's decent enough that it sounds like the guy is really in pain. Regardless of one's personality, or experience with these matters, generally humans react to the sound of another human being hurt.

Because science.

Do I think it's too much? Too bloody? Nah. I just think that the game should have the proper ratings, warnings, and whatnot. I don't think it really crosses any lines when it comes to how graphic something can be. Like I've said before, I feel like I've personally seen worse (publicly available things that are worse). When it comes to things like this, in my opinion I think it's best we just label everything as well as we can and hope that the consumers don't go after something they can't handle.

For example, I'd probably never buy or play Dead Space 3 (or was it 2?) because I know, for a fact, that there's a scene involving eye surgery. I can't handle that kind of stuff. Hell, just thinking about it makes me want to throw up. So I'll avoid that game. But this game? I don't really play games like Black Ops, but if I did, I'm pretty sure I'd be find playing this. As long as the robot doesn't mess with your eyes later on in the campaign. Man, that'd suck...
EDIT: Also, are we joking about the spoilers thing? Because the info on this video made me think it was towards the start of the game or something. And I'm bad at telling internet sarcasm/satire from serious internet conversation.

 

[Isamu Baelor]

EDIT: Also, are we joking about the spoilers thing? Because the info on this video made me think it was towards the start of the game or something. And I'm bad at telling internet sarcasm/satire from serious internet conversation.

No. I have no idea where this part is, so I don't know what part he's spoiling. I only know that a part has been spoiled.

And frankly, wherever it's place in the story is irrelevant. It takes no effort to type "Black Ops 3 Spoilers" in the title. Or hide it in spoiler tags. Or something.

It shows a complete lack of consideration for anyone else. You wouldn't be happy if I spoiled parts of Ep 7, would you? It's the same situation. Just show some bloody consideration for other people.

 

[Tanith Alde]

Though to be fair, noone is required to watch the video, and in the actual discussion nothing is spoiled. So if someone were to watch the video and then complain about it, isn't that purposefully looking for trouble? I mean do you complain about spoilers after watching a trailer? because this short 2 minute segment gave just as much context as a normal spoiler did

 

[Thurion Heavenshield]

The video has been put in a spoiler and a warning has been added to the topic title.

 

[Triampheus]

[member="Isamu Baelor"]
While I agree a small note might have been good, I wouldn't get that frustrated over it. Especially since the title of the video says the name of the game. If I clicked on an article that didn't mention what the video in it was about (which I'd admittedly do, because I waste a lot of time) and it turned out to be a video on SW VII, I'd be like "oh, whelp, I'll go find another article to waste my time on".
/Van-Daalen does the shrugging thing

 

[Ellie Mors]

I don't see much of anything wrong, in terms of disturbing material. I mean, I've seen people have their spines ripped out of their bodies in games like Mortal Kombat previews on commercials, so this isn't very graphic to me.

 

[Reverance]

[member="Triampheus"]

In the same respect, while the video was titled, it could have very well been a part of a trailer. Due diligence in consideration, it costs very little and is more than worth it .

 

[Ayessa Valen]

Why they clicked play on a video that reads "Black Ops 3 - XXXXXX" I have no idea. I'm not sure exactly what they expected if it wasn't something they recognized. But, a little amount of effort and empathy could have been offered at LEAST by you.


EDIT: I thought it was pretty gross to watch but I wasn't particularly disturbed or anything. Perhaps it was because I was expecting it due to the video title, I might have been caught off guard playing through the game.

[member="Sabastian Bane"]

 

[Tanith Alde]

Anyway first off I'd like to apologize if I came off as arrogant or mean, this wasn't my intent. Secondly i'll like to thank everyone if we could keep to the discussion at hand, which was violence.

Mortal Kombat is of course known for its over the top violence...But its done in a silly, arcade-ish way.

Black Ops however has always clung to some level of realism and tried to be serious.

 

[Thraxis]

Yeah, I agree with Sabastian on this, the topic of this was violence in video games and while I stand on the same opinion as I had before we should probably stay on the topic, rather then talk about such a minor spoiler in a game.

 

[Tanith Alde]

*Spoilers*




For those wondering where exactly this part of the game Occurs, it is literally in the first 15 minutes

*End Spoilers*

 

[Judah Dashiell]

[member="Triampheus"]


You're thinking of Dead Space 2, when a semi-major character gets an eye ripped out via a screwdriver.


As for the scene, it didn't really bother me because its a little fuzzy. However, its unrealistic, dude would have bled out and died before anyone could even reach him. Call of Duty always does this in my opinion. Remember "No Russian" when you plow through an airport killing civilians? Yeah, way worse than some dude getting his arm ripped off by a robot IMO.

 

[Isamu Baelor]

[member="Sabastian Bane"]

Are you joking? The title of the video spoils what happens in the video.

Don't try and shift the blame because you chose to be inconsiderate.

[member="Ayessa Valen"]

We didn't click on the video. The title, and the screencap, made it very clear what happens.

The reality is, it takes little effort to include "Spoiler for X" in the topic title. It takes little effort to throw it in spoiler tags. If someone posted a thread which included a spoiler for Star Wars, and didn't tag it, we'd all be livid. It doesn't matter if it was from the beginning, middle, or end. It doesn't matter if it was a video, or an image. It has been spoiled in some way, due to someone's lack of basic consideration for others.