Jak Sandrow
"Nobody cares for the woods anymore."
Quickly, with chivalry, honor, and respect. Unless they committed heinous atrocities, at which point you kill them quickly, with no remorse whatsoever.
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What is the most Jedi way to kill somebody IC?
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Daxton Bane
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Now it will sound strange coming from me but the best way to it is straight clean kill, no dismemberments, no prolonged torture, no pained teen aged angst. For example, Mace vs. Palpatine (at least until he got cornered) or Obi Wan vs Maul. No words need to be shared, a swift death blow is all that is needed.
Now it will sound strange coming from me but the best way to it is straight clean kill, no dismemberments, no prolonged torture, no pained teen aged angst. For example, Mace vs. Palpatine (at least until he got cornered) or Obi Wan vs Maul. No words need to be shared, a swift death blow is all that is needed.
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Tickling them to death
Losing is tempoary, giving up is permanent.
Laughing Shall I Die
If you view the Jedi role as similar to cops on a galactic level - ("enforcing peace and justice"/"to serve and protect"), then look at the code police officers follow.
Cops use lethal force all the time. If there is a deadly threat to the safety of an innocent person or the officer themselves, police are trained to neutralize that threat as quickly and efficiently as possible. Not by disabling the person, but by killing them.
If someone is coming at you with a knife (or as the case may be, lightsaber) there is no moral that dictates you have to offer them a chance to surrender or try to disable them. You are well within your rights to use lethal force against them.
You don't have to like it, but exercising lethal force is part of the job.
Cops use lethal force all the time. If there is a deadly threat to the safety of an innocent person or the officer themselves, police are trained to neutralize that threat as quickly and efficiently as possible. Not by disabling the person, but by killing them.
If someone is coming at you with a knife (or as the case may be, lightsaber) there is no moral that dictates you have to offer them a chance to surrender or try to disable them. You are well within your rights to use lethal force against them.
You don't have to like it, but exercising lethal force is part of the job.
Jsc
Disney's Princess
I've used this before and it didn't quite end up sitting as well with me as I'd first thought. The idea was to blame it on The Will of the Force. Essentially, my hero didn't have to feel pity or sorrow if the "Mysterious Force All-God" said, "Do it."Jak Sandrow said:
It ended up feeling like Anakin after killing Dooku. Sure, you had permission. Sure, Dooku was undeniably an evil force. Sure, the Supreme Chancellor had emergency powers during wartime and was probably the highest galactic force for judgement at the time. But... Even then. I couldn't help but notice that my Jedi could,... probably have felt sad about it.
Or, I'm just a sentimental sob and should take up writing poetry. Meh.
Four years ago this might have sounded strange coming from you. Today? It sounds down right accurate, honest, and well thought out. Cheers dude!Daxton Bane said:
[member="Labkahip Mordulla"] , [member="Sky'ito Yumi"] - If we could combine both of your answers together? That would be great.
I still feel we need a special category for Invasions in there somewhere. Because their is nothing worse than trying to scream at the other guy's squadron to surrender just to keep your religion in place. Lulz.Kaine Australis said:
This is a great place to start. However, as an American. The public debate about Force and The Police, seems never ending. With a greater world view one can readily find wild and impressive differences in how other global jurisdictions allow their police to operate. But that's just politics now. Lulz. Great thinking.Agent Rinnan said:
Daxton Bane
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I will have to agree with [member="Kaine Australis"]. Remember the death star before trench scene, its kill or be killed.
Laughing Shall I Die
I understand there are differences in how different countries operate, and believe me, I'm not an uncritical supporter of cops. But part of the backlash against the police today actually stems from misunderstanding the use of lethal force, I think. The whole "shoot the criminal in the legs" meme only happens in movies. Shooting to try and maim someone presents unnecessary risks, which is why cops don't do it. If you must use your gun, you shoot to kill. It should be the same with Jedi and lightsabers, or anyone who values their life really.Jay Scott Clark said:
By the way, everything I'm saying is totally appicable to invasion or battle scenarios too. You can ask the opposing army to surrender but it's not necessary. And if they are actually attacking you then there is no reason whatsoever to demand they surrender as a qualifier to meeting their lethal force with your own. That's just putting you and your men in danger for no reason. A wise Jedi would know that peace is preferable but not always attainable.
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Muad Dib
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[member="Jay Scott Clark"]
Preach to them the error of their ways, tell them there is redemption, offer to guide them back to the light, tell them that there is still good in them ..... They'll kill themselves and you are free from guilt.
Course all the best answers were already given.
Know your character, convey his emotions and inner turmoil in your post. Remember that violence doesn't solve everything, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Remember that life is precious, but you have a responsibility and duty to the lives of innocents to stop those that would snuff out their existence. Your are a shield against the darkness that stands between those who would do harm and those who cannot protect themselves. And sometimes the only way to protect and serve those innocents is to use lethal force.
I still like the idea of sermonizing them until they kill themselves ....
Preach to them the error of their ways, tell them there is redemption, offer to guide them back to the light, tell them that there is still good in them ..... They'll kill themselves and you are free from guilt.
Course all the best answers were already given.
Know your character, convey his emotions and inner turmoil in your post. Remember that violence doesn't solve everything, but sometimes it is unavoidable. Remember that life is precious, but you have a responsibility and duty to the lives of innocents to stop those that would snuff out their existence. Your are a shield against the darkness that stands between those who would do harm and those who cannot protect themselves. And sometimes the only way to protect and serve those innocents is to use lethal force.
I still like the idea of sermonizing them until they kill themselves ....
Minch
Afraid, you are. Worried, I'm not.
[member="Jay Scott Clark"]
The focus should not be on how to kill. The Jedi's first response should be to help all others equally, which is why the Sith think the Jedi weak for not having the "resolve" to kill.
A Jedi focuses on defense of the living first, seeks to wear his opponent down and then reason with or imprison them. A real Sith will take advantage of this, which will either get the Jedi exploited/killed quickly or caught off guard and driven to do something un-Jedi-like.
From there, the Jedi must make a choice: adapt and grow from the seemingly disadvantaged Light side or give into the quicker power and results of the Dark side.
When in an untenable situation against a host of soldiers, the Jedi must be cautious and certain of their next moves. If you're fighting against people bent on killing you and others, killing in self defense may be necessary. But, if they're just people forced by their government to do their job, then it's best to find an alternate route.
The focus should not be on how to kill. The Jedi's first response should be to help all others equally, which is why the Sith think the Jedi weak for not having the "resolve" to kill.
A Jedi focuses on defense of the living first, seeks to wear his opponent down and then reason with or imprison them. A real Sith will take advantage of this, which will either get the Jedi exploited/killed quickly or caught off guard and driven to do something un-Jedi-like.
From there, the Jedi must make a choice: adapt and grow from the seemingly disadvantaged Light side or give into the quicker power and results of the Dark side.
When in an untenable situation against a host of soldiers, the Jedi must be cautious and certain of their next moves. If you're fighting against people bent on killing you and others, killing in self defense may be necessary. But, if they're just people forced by their government to do their job, then it's best to find an alternate route.
Daxton Bane
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Well there lies the difference between Jedi and Sith. While both are capable of violence, the Sith use violence as the first course of action while Jedi the last course of action. But the potential for violence is still present in both.
Jsc
Disney's Princess
[member="Daxton Bane"] - Sure. Am I'm quickly reminded that not all Jedi and Sith specialize in combat either. Alchemy and other pursuits can call to both. While a Knight and Reaver might know combat and experience it intimately? I'd judge it no wicked sin for a Librarian, Prophet, Smith, or Herbalist to be found lacking in either. Especially when it comes to fan service and our own unlimited creativity. I think the bar in this case might be set at different places for different people. Which is definitely something to explore.
Eventually.
Eventually.
Daxton Bane
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Hahaha hopefully one fateful day, you and I will cross paths, no words need to be shared, let our passions burn bright.....to the victor the spoils......one fateful day.
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[member="Makai Dashiell"] Heh. More truth than some realize.
[member="Jay Scott Clark"] My suggestion would be to be fluid. Adjust to the situation. If it's to protect, then protect; if it's to defend yourself, defend; if it's to stop an enemy from performing greater evil, remorsefully protect that greater good...
As it's been mentioned, the focus isn't on how to kill; it's on whether there is no other option.
Also, if it's right to sacrifice yourself, consider letting yourself die, becoming one with the Force. A lot Jedi forget that this is a viable option for character development. Sure, it might not be amazing to be a Force ghost, but if the situation were right, those involved important, and the result worth dying for... it's also an option.
[member="Jay Scott Clark"] My suggestion would be to be fluid. Adjust to the situation. If it's to protect, then protect; if it's to defend yourself, defend; if it's to stop an enemy from performing greater evil, remorsefully protect that greater good...
As it's been mentioned, the focus isn't on how to kill; it's on whether there is no other option.
Also, if it's right to sacrifice yourself, consider letting yourself die, becoming one with the Force. A lot Jedi forget that this is a viable option for character development. Sure, it might not be amazing to be a Force ghost, but if the situation were right, those involved important, and the result worth dying for... it's also an option.
J'Raa
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Dispassionately. If you watch the SW Rebels episode "Jedi Night," you'll see Kanan dispatch people in a way that some might consider to be straight up murder, but he didn't slow for a moment because he was serving a larger purpose. Same with any of the major Jedi-led fight scenes. They bounce blaster bolts into whoever's in the way and cut down anyone between them and their goal, but only when they stop to think about whether they're doing right or wrong does the subject of Light vs. Dark crop up.