A Message to Star Wars: Chaos

[Darth Imperatus]

It has come to my attention that this forum has some serious issues.

By almost all accounts, this place is a RPer's paradise. For the most part, it's free from restrictive rules which prevent people from creating good stories and create a trillion different methods of exploiting the system to "win." However, that hasn't stopped people from trying.

For some reason, us RPers have a tendency to constantly take things way too seriously. The whole point of roleplaying is to create stories and share them with other people. However, for some reason, almost everyone will end up taking things too seriously at one time or another; they want their character to be better than all the other characters, or, in some cases, their faction to be bigger than the other guy's faction.

We're used to games, and in games there are objectives which you need to achieve, and the people who achieve those objectives win the game.

Roleplaying, however, is different. There is no objective. What roleplayers have to remember, and what they so often forget, is that none of what we do here matters. Sure, you can gang up on a faction to destroy it. You'll probably succeed. And what do you get for your trouble? Let's see: your fictional character gets a few white dots that represent fictional places on a fictional map. But that's not the best part: you also get to get rid of one blob of color, and put another blob of color over the top of it! I know right! It's like 1st grade art all over again!

People are ganging up on the One Sith. Let's not argue about that, it's true. This is not a new thing. There will always be people on every RP forum in the world who take things too seriously, especially when factions are involved. But can we take a step back and look at the possible outcomes of the One Sith being destroyed? What new story arc would this community take up?

Well, I guess we do some trade disputes, that's always fun...Hey, what if one corporation set up a blockade of a planet somewhere? How cool would that be? And how would all those Jedi spend their time, now that the great evil has been cast down? Well, I guess they could always protect some politicians from dangerous worm-pooping robots while said politician is involved in important negotiations regarding military legislation...Yeah, why not?

If the Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones taught us anything, it's that trade disputes don't make for good storylines. Nothing good can be achieved by the effortless destruction of the One Sith; in fact, it will only hurt the quality of stories on this site. An evil empire is much more exciting than squabbling politicians: we as Star Wars fans should understand that better than anyone!

So yes, I'm asking you, the Chaos community, to lay off the One Sith. But I'm also asking something else: that we try to remember that in the end, the only thing we will ever get out of this forum is fun. We are not really Jedi and Sith: if we were, I can guarantee you none of us would be on an online roleplaying forum. So please, try not to take things too seriously, and just have some fun for a change.

 

[Nikolas Faselli]

It should be noted, that not all RPers take things that easily. For some, it is a serious art, just like writing in general is. Authors have a tendency to get into their characters, into their stories, and RP is not an exception. I understand people get extremely serious and dramatic about stuff sometimes, but one could never tell others to slack off and have fun. That's not how it is.

I agree with you, though not completely. The One Sith is a good story, it existing is a lovely addition to our game. But the fact that people who play non-Sith characters are seriously in character makes them, in really extreme cases, hate the faction.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the One Sith or you and even less I have something against the points you made, but writing without getting into the story is nothing. A story without the writer's soul in it is a poorly thought out story. Sometimes people gotta have fun and sometimes writers get really serious, but that's how writing is.

And we can do nothing against it other than to stop RPing.

 

[Mrrew]

THIS.​

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If you want to attack the One Sith, fine. But if you destroy it, what now?

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Maria Natalja"]

You make a very good point there. But I think it's definitely possible to really get into your writing, while you are actually writing, and then separate yourself from it afterwards. It's a mindset: you need to have it in the back of your mind that it is not real and not that important. I'd like to think that I have learned this skill, at least to some degree, after a fair bit of experience with what happens when RPers take things too seriously. It's just a matter of telling myself once in a while that this whole thing is just meant to be a bit of fun.

And let's be serious here: every person on this forum should hate the Sith: they're EVIL. Some people need to understand that the people who RP Sith are not ACTUALLY evil: I reiterate, if they were, they would not be here.

 

[Alice Red]

I'm mostly indifferent to this entire issue since it doesn't affect me greatly, but I'd like to say this whole bloody thing is getting ridiculous. Claiming that the entire coalition forming against the Sith is mostly because of a juvenile desire to paint the map in a certain color and add a few dots here and there is both insulting and avoiding the issue people have with the One Sith. People view the OS as a threat, to either the status quo found in the game or because they risk getting conquered by them. The recent Superweapon debacle did little to alleviate peoples worries about defeat at their hands and Tefka taking sides, while I have no personal issue with the man playing, also doesn't help.

You want to know what story arcs can come from the One Sith being destroyed? Resurgence of Republic and Mandalorian wars due to nothing keeping the Republic in check. Power Vacuum between Fringe, OP, and Republic in the inner cores. Sith purge and Jedi Inquisition. Resurgence of city-states-esque factions of Sith due to the destruction of the OS. Sith attempting to subvert other factions through stealth and intrigue. Tensions between Jedis and pubs reaching all time high as the common enemy is defeated. The Black Sun attempting to gain control of the previous Sith territories through the underworld. Establishment of United Nations type deal with Coruscant and several Inner Core worlds. Possibilities are endless if you bother looking for them besides the old "I take out my lightsaber and slash you." deal.

At the end of the day, the rules strictly forbid anybody from destroying you without either RPJ intervention or through your own consent to multiple front war. You're the Sith, stop being drama queens about people not kissing your arse and nut up. If you want to be the evil empire, start acting like one and stop acting like a cheerleader in a highschool movie.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

A lion Sith does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

You're the Sith, stop being drama queens about people not kissing your arse and nut up. If you want to be the evil empire, start acting like one and stop acting like a cheerleader in a highschool movie.

I'll say this again: no, we are not actually Sith, and if we were start acting like Sith then you would be within your rights to track down our houses and shoot us.

Also, power vacuum? Small factions? Sith infiltrating light side factions to return to power? This already happened...about two months ago. The storyline about the great defeat of the evil Empire happened immediately before that.

 

[J3C0]

The recent Superweapon debacle did little to alleviate peoples worries about defeat at their hands and Tefka taking sides, while I have no personal issue with the man playing, also doesn't help.

Just to clear this up.

Tef never took sides -ever-. He had absolutely no hand in our decision to try and make a superweapon and actively refused to participate in its creation. He was also impartial in its vote and even gave the vote to the Members after other members of staff approved it. He's in our faction because he wants to roleplay and have fun, please don't say stuff like this and ruin it for him.

 

[Nikolas Faselli]

I'll say this again: no, we are not actually Sith, and if we were start acting like Sith then you would be within your rights to track down our houses and shoot us.

Also, power vacuum? Small factions? Sith infiltrating light side factions to return to power? This already happened...about two months ago. The storyline about the great defeat of the evil Empire happened immediately before that.

I am thinking he talked about IC. Because One Sith should be Sith, not just some #TeenProblems people who can't decide who they are... :|

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Maria Natalja"]

And when was the last time you saw us being "whiny undecided teens" in character? I don't think this whole debate really has much to do with the IC conduct of the Sith on this forum.

 

[Nikolas Faselli]

[member="Maria Natalja"]

And when was the last time you saw us being "whiny undecided teens" in character? I don't think this whole debate really has much to do with the IC conduct of the Sith on this forum.

It doesn't. But I was pointing out how things seemed judging by how you replied to Alice.

I'll back down now. Have fun!

 

[Garza]

Le me stays back and watches everything to start plots and scheemes.

 

[Stephanie Swail]

We are just one big family, unified by two things: Writing and Star Wars.

In the grand scheme of things, looking in on Chaos, every Faction is equal and as powerful as the other in their own right for the sake of our continuous enjoyment writing with each other. Sith, Jedi, Beast Hunters, Pirates...whatever we "pretend" we are with our characters, we are here to enjoy each other's imagination and company and share a creative passion to play in the playground of Star Wars.

The moment we get TOO serious, we lose the core of what Chaos stands for. It allows us, really, to be care free and almost child-like again, playing out scenarios and great adventures and stories with those who share our passion and whom, I can say, count as great friends and writers.

We can't afford to let the "reality" of what perceive these fictional beings and organisations really mean because then it becomes so hard to live up to that standard that will never be met.

Like you all say, everything else, be it Faction Creations, Planet Invasions, Expeditions...whatever...it's all irrelevant once it starts to make people become too serious and lose the fun of what this place is.

I'm reminded of the Joker's dialogue in 'The Dark Knight' at this point:

"I don't want to kill you. What would I do without you? You complete me."

None of us really can exist here without the other, so on that note, people all over Chaos, let's join hands and form a love train.

 

[Trenchcoat Man]

The movies. The iconic Sith in the movies was a whiny teenager not sure who he was.

Your whole life, you are a whiny teenager not sure who you are.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

[member="Maria Natalja"]

I'm trying to advocate for reasoned discussion and lighthearted fun here, so I apologize if my reply came across as aggressive.

 

[Darth Imperatus]

The movies. The iconic Sith in the movies was a whiny teenager not sure who he was.

Your whole life, you are a whiny teenager not sure who you are.

And let's not forget Luke...what did they say about his story again...something about "self discovery"?

 

[Alice Red]

I'll say this again: no, we are not actually Sith, and if we were start acting like Sith then you would be within your rights to track down our houses and shoot us.

You are playing Sith. This is not an OOC issue, but an IC issue. If the OS was getting boycotted OOC, people refused to interact with it's members, or a whole other slew of things OOC, I would agree with your position. But this is an IC issue brought into OOC because you don't want to be the bad guys while playing the "Bad Guy" faction. Nut up mate.

He's in our faction because he wants to roleplay and have fun, please don't say stuff like this and ruin it for him.

I didn't meant it like that, my appologize if it came off that way. English ain't my first language so it's a bit hard to properly write what I mean, but I'm basically reffering to the fact that people, read idiots, will take Tef playing with a major faction as a sign of they can do no wrong and stupid stuff will arise from it. Again, the man can play if he wants, it's his site after all, but it's important to keep in mind what kind of influence his involvement will have on some.

 

[Rosa Gunn]

When a new faction pops up on the board and it first move is to rip Coruscant out of the hands of the Republic (beautifully done i might add), it is only natural for people to rally against it. I for one love the fact that they are pushing for change. The path the story has taken demands for us to act IC'ly. This isn't about OOC vendetta's, not for me anyway.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

I just show up to bust skulls and act diabolical.

 

[Darth Isolda]

You are playing Sith. This is not an OOC issue, but an IC issue. If the OS was getting boycotted OOC, people refused to interact with it's members, or a whole other slew of things OOC, I would agree with your position. But this is an IC issue brought into OOC because you don't want to be the bad guys while playing the "Bad Guy" faction. Nut up mate.

I'm quite enjoying being the bad girl.

I'm enjoying having many people come to hate me Icly for my manipulative ministrations.

I love that many writers are using me and the One Sith as plot devices for their stories.

Hate me! Come at meh Brah!

Don't make me make more tributes to the Goddess!!! *Does so anyways*

THE GODDESS WILL REIGN! HER GLORY AND HER DESIGN SHALL COME TO PASS!

*sorry Isolda always brings the darkside in me


Let's have fun folks -- keep it on the board icly and duke it out that way. Plot, just like Rosa is doing to icly move the galactic greats to come at the One Sith -- let it organically develop through RP interaction and watch the counters against the One Sith grow.

It makes more sense for several factions to go against the one sith if they actually RP it out and plan accordingly that way. To see them hash out their differences for the greater good. Heck, maybe even make a new Treaty of Chandrilla because of it.

*shrugs*

Either way -- I'm here my lovelies, as the Eye of the Dark Lord... ever watching... corrupting...


Oh [member="Kiskla Grayson"].... You are next, my little Dark Kiffar Queen. *evil grin*

Yessssss... All going according to plan...