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Evard L'Rik

Got Lightning Running Through my Veins
Gandalf said:
The problem is that that is the strategy they're going for here from my perspective; simultanious invasions intended to drain the One Sith of characters and thus force them to either make a ton of alts to defend, and perhaps eventually get tired and stop, and thus victory is assured for the attackers,or just outright jump ship and thus victory is assured for the attackers. Unless the One Sith are really disciplined enough to maintain having a bunch of alts throughout their ranks intended to shore up defenses. Maybe you are that squared away.

But the problem is you should never be put in a position where you have to bend over backwards to get a fair shot to begin with. I would further contend that I think there should be a new rule regarding this -- something along the lines of just like player consent must be achieved for death, perhaps a faction should have to do an internal vote on whether or not to be destroyed via roleplay. That would be the fair and right thing to do.
That used to be unspoken consensus. The NO did it when the Mandos killed them off. The original Empire did it when they let the Mando kill them off...

I just realized that the Mandos and OS are the only polite factions on the board... Excuse me while I go cry.
 
War's not nice.


If people don't want to face the risk of invasion, annihilation and such...they should not claim a place on the map and instead just 'stay in the shadows'. The moment you claim a spot that it's an invitation to invade. Especially if galactic conquest and things like that are your mission statement. :D
 
@Melakoth Tyrin

Then that is a violation of the rules regarding Invasions as far as I'm aware. Report it, let the RPJ's deal with it, and treat it as is, a violation of the rule. This whole discussion started because you didn't paint it as a rule break, but instead acted as a child, wondering why the people want to gang up and defeat the strongest and most aggressive faction in the galaxy through the use of insinuating we're all 1st graders caring about painting the map a certain color and other assorted nonsense.
 
Siobhan Kerrigan said:
War's not nice.


If people don't want to face the risk of invasion, annihilation and such...they should not claim a place on the map and instead just 'stay in the shadows'. The moment you claim a spot that it's an invitation to invade. Especially if galactic conquest and things like that are your mission statement. :D

So can we drop this pretense that this is about the roleplay, finally, and get down to what it's really all about? Winning this little war of yours?
 

Alexandra Feanor

The Lady in Silver/Grey Historian
Think of it this way, the One Sith had every right to say. "Hey, we cant do this many at once, hold off." But they didn't. Do you know why? Because they are strong and powerful, they are strong and more powerful than any other faction alone in sheer willpower and writing power alone. With this said, there is only one thing that i have to say to you who attack the one Sith. Come with your tanks, your ships, your soldiers and your forceusers, there is nothing that you can do to stop the Sith and it is your own folly to throw more upon our sabers, remember those who have died thinking they could defeat us. Boolon Murr, Cira, Adele. All of them tempted the power that the One Sith hold, all of them dead. Let the enemies of the Sith come and impale themselves once more upon our blades.
 
The more chaos the better. If the Sith get thrashed, fine. If they subjugate the Galaxy, fine as well. The latter would really give me the chance to go even darker and edgier with Siobhan. I'd have so much fun with playing terrorist.


If she perishes, fine as well. I did just have her get spaced and almost die after all. :d
 

Saki

Came in like a wrecking maul
Well I can say this, when we weren't fighting and the whole of the board became about protecting IC and OOC to the point of stupidity a peace treaty not the actual ideal of peace. Regardless of what most people wanted it took Tef revitalizing the Republic and putting someone who was willing to be hated in charge (which worked) to actually make invasions happen. A good series of invasions with story are fun, the One sith have agreed even though they don't have to for there to be more then one at a time because after seeing Alderaan where the republic was outnumbered in every engagement, Seeing empress Teta where the Republic is outnumbered in every engagement. There was dogpiles all over. There is going to be dogpiles in these ones coming as well cause and I love the mando's they don't have the numbers to go head to head. It will be several to one odds in each fight. I am looking forward to it and hoping the sith stay strong. We need bad guys and few others are actually willing to be the bad guys. This is why Kaine is so damn fun because he doesn't just give reason he welcomes it. I think he even offered at one point carte blanche on Kaine if you wanted to have a sith lord who has wronged you. In the end this is about fun, some people have fun in invasions some don't, some people have fun trying to play risk with a map and taking things way to seriously, some don't. As long as you respect each other we should all be able to get along.
 
[member="Gandalf"]

So what exactly are you complaining about? That because of your faction's actions several weaker groups are going to try and unite against them? This is a problem?
The ruling has been made that simultaneous invasions cannot happen, so if you're invaded you can use all your people in all the invasions. Since the One Sith has more active members than their enemies I fail to see how this ganging up is a problem.
Especially since you handily defeated the previous two invasions.

So where's the beef? Are you seriously complaining that everyone is ganging up on the One Sith...even though the One Sith has defeated all these attacks?
I think a better policy would be to stop complaining and go RP for your faction and ensure that they continue to win that way.
 
Valeria Aetani said:
[member="Gandalf"]

So what exactly are you complaining about? That because of your faction's actions several weaker groups are going to try and unite against them? This is a problem?
The ruling has been made that simultaneous invasions cannot happen, so if you're invaded you can use all your people in all the invasions. Since the One Sith has more active members than their enemies I fail to see how this ganging up is a problem.
Especially since you handily defeated the previous two invasions.

So where's the beef? Are you seriously complaining that everyone is ganging up on the One Sith...even though the One Sith has defeated all these attacks?
I think a better policy would be to stop complaining and go RP for your faction and ensure that they continue to win that way.
The One Sith are not my faction. I do not have a faction. I am voicing the opinion of someone who thinks it is a problem when people collude to achieve an outcome and then wrap it up as something other than that. The staff have ruled that the invasions cannot happen, which is good. The right call. But that still doesn't solve the larger issue which is one of respect.

I don't think it's respectful to dismiss the concern. To brush it off with, "Hey, the One Sith are pretty powerful". So it's acceptable to reduce them to rubble to prove, what exactly? That they could have succeeded? The Sith have always been a very powerful faction when united, and yet, here we are, repeating the same old lines.

I think the best policy would be to address the issue formally. Like I said before; perhaps an enforceable official rule where a player vote internally must be conducted by a faction for consent to be destroyed.

Otherwise the policy you're setting in tone is, "It's ok to kill off factions you get scared of". Which, again, not very respectful to players.
 

J3C0

Guest
Guys, enough.

You have said your piece. No more OOC arguing or anything, we'll go with IC action instead.

If you're in the One Sith, please don't post here anymore.
 
I'll say, the One Sith Admins really doesn't mind people wanting to Invade the faction. In the end, it's supposed to be fun and the One Sith has fun with Invasions.

EDIT: Le Mierin has spoken and I depart back to the shadows.
 
I just want to point out that while I'm stepping away from this now, it is because of my own decision, and not because I'm in the One Sith, of which I am not. :)
 
It's taking me a great deal of effort to circumvent the worship of the PR gods that I observed when I was staff, but it has to be done in order for me to make a proper response to this thread. The parts of me that tell me not to give people a reason to be butthurt are screaming. I am ignoring them, because I feel this needs to be said.

This is, without a doubt, the dumbest thread that has ever come into existence on this site.

From what I can tell as an outsider who has had no connection to either side of this ridiculous debate, the Sith are stepping on pretendy-fun-time toes, which is making other writers upset. These other writers are getting it into their heads to do something about this, and in return the Sith are getting upset that someone is going to step on their ptetendy-fun-time toes. Make sure to add "pretendy-fun-time" to every single RP discussion. It really gives you perspective on the meat of the argument.

This is dumb from every angle. On one side, we have the Sith. While playing bad guys and winning every time, the moment something happens that poses a genuine threat to their winning streak, it's immediately going to diminish the entire board if it goes through? You are villains. Villains lose. Good storytelling, with very few exceptions, is about overcoming adversity. The Sith are fundamentally the incarnation of adversity. I'm sick of seeing Sith players try to hide behind the idea that people getting sick of getting pushed around and deciding to push back is somehow harmful to everyone's fun. Surely it wasn't harmful to the people whose asses you keep kicking to lose every single time, but the moment you have a chance to lose, it's a problem.

On the other side, we have literally everyone else. This is a damn game. You're out for blood because of a game. You are pretending to be a mercenary or a space-wizard or an alien, and in the pretend story you wrote with the guy who is pretending to be an evil space-wizard, he beat you. This does not call for a pogrom. I'm pretending to be a kung fu space-wizard with boobs the size of a Volkswagen. If Jon, who is pretending to be a space-wizard who can Armor Lock like she had Mjolniir armor, kicked my ass, why would it be a logical step to try to erase him?

Now, I'm sure there are tons of people who think that wiping out the Sith would be a fun story and hold minimal malice about the whole thing. In fact, chances are it's a vocal minority who has any kind of toxic feelings at all. Similarly, I'm guessing that the majority of the Sith are like "Come at me, bro" and stoked that their villainy has provoked a galactic response. But for those vocal minorities? Cool your jets, kiddos. It's just a game. You are not being victimized. Your rights are not being trampled.

It's. Just. A. Game.
 

Menoetius

Anzat's How it's Done
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so much drama
 
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