Battlefield 1

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Napoleonic FPS. Fire one inaccurate shot, then spend 10 seconds reloading, standing perfectly still.

Now there's a game where everyone will grab swords.

 

[Jsc]

Wonder how players will like the 5 shot bolt action rifles, primitive grenades and immobile machineguns.

"Fix bayonets!"

"For Skyrim!"

*sigh*

 

[Seris Vant]

[member="Darth Kentarch"]

Black Adder. Boy do I love that guy.

 

[Nyxie]

THE Great War?! Oh, this is gonna behella epic (even if it turns out to suck like Battlefront) if just for that niche alone.

The best part is that CoD is still pushing deeper and deeper into the cheesy sci-fi thing and still failing miserably instead of touching back on their roots. So this thing is gonna sell splendidly.

Also, you're all getting this on the PEEEEECEEEEEE right? :3 #pcmasterrace

 

[Kelson]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Napoleonic FPS. Fire one inaccurate shot, then spend 10 seconds reloading, standing perfectly still.

Now there's a game where everyone will grab swords.

There is a game about that called Mount and Blade Warband - Napoleonic Wars. And it is amazing. Epic line battles and cannon barrages. So yeah it can be done.

 

[Tyberius Fel]

Am I the only one (probably) who thinks this is just ridiculous?

There is a huge opening for WWI games, they are virtually non-existent. The reason for this is because the Great War was not some glorious lark driving tanks around and fighting in melee, it was a horrific slaughter where 20,000 people could die in a day for absolutely no gains.

I suspect this is Great War Fantasy version.

Especially given their emphasis on melee weapons, tanks and planes, things which are much more WWII things.

You do realize that melee was exceedingly common in the first World War? Relative to other modern conflicts of course. Whether a pitched battle between sentries and trench raiders, or a clash between the survivors of an artillery barrage and the vanguard of the advance, there was a reason for the mass proliferation of trench knives, maces and other improvised weapons, atleast on the Western front.

And for better or worse, every war video game is 'Fantasy Version.' Did you know that 65% of the WWII German Wehrmacht relied on horse transport? Or that the Waffen-SS was one of the most multinational military forces in history? You wouldn't know it from the masses of half tracks and panzers thrown at you in WWII video games.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Vorian Adasca"]

You do realize that melee was exceedingly common in the first World War

And accounted for about 0.8% of casualties, based on the facts I could find. I know it happened, I've seen the artefacts, but I'm just saying it had nowhere near the prominance of that video.

You wouldn't know it from the masses of half tracks and panzers thrown at you in WWII video games.

Indeed, so we're getting a stylised history. That's fine, but at least the SS Panzer divisions DID have lots of tanks...as opposed to the great war where they were a rarity until 1917.

 

[Tyberius Fel]

[member="Vorian Adasca"]


And accounted for about 0.8% of casualties, based on the facts I could find. I know it happened, I've seen the artefacts, but I'm just saying it had nowhere near the prominance of that video.




Indeed, so we're getting a stylised history. That's fine, but at least the SS Panzer divisions DID have lots of tanks...as opposed to the great war where they were a rarity until 1917.

Percentage casualties, in this context, means about absolutely nothing. The vast vast vast vast majority of WWI casualties were caused by artillery fire, then stationary machine gun fire and disease, not to mention flamethrowers, mines, barbed wire, etc. Obviously, looking at the conflict as a whole, melee would take a small piece of the pie, but assuming in Battlefield 1 we're playing in the pitched warfare phrase of the battle after both sides have waded through rolling artillery barrages and ectera, then melee plays a much larger role then one would suspect than from looking at statistics.

Tanks were indeed somewhat rare, but there's no justifiable argument to exclude them on the basis of realism.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Vorian Adasca"]
I'm not saying exclude them. They were a big part of the final months. Just...the level of priority given is understandable, yet baffling.

 

[Tyberius Fel]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

Tanks are cool, go pew-pew, and are a hugely recognizable part of World War I. You can't blame Dice from slapping them everywhere they can, now can you? Though, I'm glad they gave some loving to zeppelins.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Vorian Adasca"]
Even though zeppelins were actually pretty much useless and never used in battle.

My suspicion is that they won't be having a July 1st 1916 or a February 23rd 1916 scenario.

Probably more like 1918 stuff as that's the closest it got to 'traditional' and later weapons.

 

[Tyberius Fel]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

Most likely, they'll have a variety of maps set in different places (Somme, Verdun, etc) but still allow all the weapons in abit of anachronism slew, but nearly every multiplayer game does that, like how in Call of Duty you can have the US Army Rangers running around with dual 1886 shotguns.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

Probably more like 1918 stuff as that's the closest it got to 'traditional' and later weapons.

Does this mean I won't be able to waste two-hundred and fifty-two thousand British, French, Australian, and New Zealander lives at Gallipoli?

Lame.

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Judging by the desert pictures, you might be able to do a Lawrence of Arabia thing.

 

[Darth Carnifex]

One can hope.

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[Kira Vaal]

There is a part of me that is hoping they don't touch Gallipoli with this, another part really wants it. I mean I know it can be said for the entire war in general but something about turning Gallipoli into a game for entertainment irks me up the wrong way. However the chance to explore the setting, from desperation at basically being abandoned to a hopeful sighting of Simpson and his donkey would be awesome in many ways.

Also...Australian Light Horse...I will be very happy.

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[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Kira Vaal"]
Are you an Aussie too?

Honestly, I think Gallipoli will give the player one of the few settings which is familiar. The whole landing under fire one is similar but not exactly with Normandy.

Would be cool to do the charge at Beersheba.

 

[Kira Vaal]

[member="Valiens Nantaris"]
Grew up in South Australia.
Residing in the UK for now however.

It's a very good point, I mean who knows they might actually make a genuinely historic game here...
...wait...
I'll be sold on the Battle of Lone Pine if they include it, however being EA I'm going to start thinking that we will be looking at a 'ANZAC DLC' instead.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Kira Vaal"]
Akubra hat DLC skin?

 

[Gorteko Graye]

[member="Darth Vornskr"]
Judging by the desert pictures, you might be able to do a Lawrence of Arabia thing.

They have a Lawrence of Arabia pack, and red baron pack available for preorder alongside the game.