Fantasy-inspired content in the SW universe

[Wolf]

Inspired by the whole dragon-PC-ban discussion from another thread, I thought I'd bring up the whole area of fantasy-inspired armour, weapons, items and content in general used on the forums.

What are people's thoughts on this? Does it drift too far from canon when a person makes armour that's taken straight from a fantasy film/book/video game?

I know the Sith are very prone to this, on pretty much every Star Wars RP I've ever been part of. Who doesn't want some badass lookin' armour?

I'm included in that, to clarify. If my character ever manages to make it up through the Sith ranks, I'd be very tempted to give him some cool-lookin' fantasy style armour, though I am concerned about the canonicity and whether lifting the armour straight out of a well-known film or video game looks cheap to other writers.

What are people's honest opinions on this? Is there precedent in the canon to have fantasy-style armour and weapons?

If you think it's okay, is there a red line you wouldn't cross? At what point does the armour get too fantasy-like? If the armour or character is taken straight from a well-known fantasy character, basically carbon-copying the character or the armour into the SW universe, is that taking it too far?

 

[Boethiah]

Too many discussions branching out of each other.

What are people's honest opinions on this? Is there precedent in the canon to have fantasy-style armour and weapons?

It's just a style. There's nothing innately fantastic about that. So I don't see the problem.

 

[Ignatius]

It's just a style.

Boom.

And it's not like we don't see people wearing "Fantasy" styled armor in the real world.

Look at Rennasance fairs! or even Jousting tournaments. They have some badass looking armor. AND IT"S REAL!

 

[Matsu Ike]

well there is a difference between having something for the look and having it be a direct rip. We have large brute type characters who wear power armor but it is just to fit their frame.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

And it's not like we don't see people wearing "Fantasy" styled armor in the real world. Look at Rennasance fairs! or even Jousting tournaments.

You're confusing Fantasy for Medieval.

Fantasy is a genre. Medieval is a style.

 

[Ignatius]

You're confusing Fantasy for Medieval. Fantasy is a genre. Medieval is a style.

Yes I see that now.

Let me refocus.

Lord of the Rings, Fantasy, Mideval styled armor mixed with fantasy element. it's pretty close right?

 

[Captain Jordan]

My stance on that is this:

If we're allowing direct imports of fantasy material, then I've got a bunch of Star Trek concepts to submit to the Codex/Factory. Fair is fair, right?

*imagines a gunslinger wielding phasers, a Geordi-style VISOR and beaming out of danger at the most opportune time*

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

If we're allowing direct imports of fantasy material,

Just a trend I've noticed. People enjoy bringing stuff in from other genres and franchises. I've made Space Marine armor, personally.

But sooner or later, they default back to plasteel, blasters and the Force.

Why? No idea. I imagine you just realize it doesn't mesh with what the setting is supposed to be and phase it out yourself. Just a personal observation.

 

[Lurcano Car'dann]

[member="Wolf"] I hate it. It should be done away with immediately. I want to open my mouth against a curb and have someone stomp on my skull every time I see a suit of armor modeled after Samurai, or a Katana; or someone duel wielding two swords improperly without a shoto. It just pisses me off, and breaks immersion. I am an elitist to that extent. SW Cannon ONLY! I don't care if in theory, you could make a Durasteel set of armor to look like a Samurai. I don't want it. Despite this though, I respect other peoples RP. If they want to do that, I'll go along with it begrudgingly, and never ever say a word about it. I voice my dislike on threads like these, meant for such a thing.

 

[Gilamar Skirata]

[member="Lurcano Car'dann"]
You say that but kaftan - style vibroswords and sithswords have been around since KOTOR

 

[Lurcano Car'dann]

[member="Gilamar Skirata"] I know. I never claimed my hatred was rational. Which is why I don't enforce it on others, I just don't like it.

 

[Sarge Potteiger]

I never claimed my hatred was rational. Which is why I don't enforce it on others

I shed one manly tear for common sense.

 

[Gir Quee]

I think that no genre (or artistic universe) isn't influenced in some way by another in some way or fashion. The very basic parts of the most canon parts of Star Wars as depicted in the movies themselves are acknowledged to be inspired from a variety of sources (the Force with various religious ideas, Jedi knights from ideas of chivalry, etc).

To me, the question is not of the inspiration itself, but how well they adapt it to the Star Wars setting. Some of it, like the various Sith or Jensaarai armors can be done very well and very believably. Other things, especially direct ripoffs of well-known things, not so much.

But that's just my two cents.

 

[Petra Cavataio]

SW Cannon ONLY!

Yes... only Disney SW Cannon and all factions should fit that rule, all force orders, all species... nothing but what Disney declares as cannon for SW

*drops mic and licks everyone's faces*

 

[Ignatius]

[member="Lurcano Car'dann"], Um Katana's are not in star wars canon?

Force-imbued blades look alot like Katanas from the picture

So why are you saying they are not canon? Oh and here is this lovely picture from the same link.

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Looks like the guy on the right is wearing very much a Samurai Styled armor? I mean even the idea of the lightsaber fighting in the orginal trillogy was done in the traditional sense of Samurai fighting style. (as said by george lucas himself, though not all of him can be trusted... cus you know.... Jar-jar.)

 

[Lurcano Car'dann]

[member="Akuma"] I know. But I just don't like it. Yet, my opinion is not more or less important then anyone else, which is why I usually keep it to myself unless a thread is created for the express purpose of me making it public.

[member="Sarge Potteiger"] I feel you.

 

[Break]

Star wars is hamlet in space. I agree with fantasy armor and weapons

 

[huggin_munnin]

I too dislike overly fantasy-based weapons and armor. There was a reason they went from metal weapons to lightsabers. I'm not saying you should only do what I would do, but I find the idea of carrying a big, clunky sword when you could have a lighter, customizable laser weapon baffling. Lightsabers are just as customizable, there are so many things to choose from and even shape as you see fit. Swords, especially greatswords, are awkward as hell to carry around. That's why they were battlefield weapons only and arming swords were the norm.

I also agree that wielding two full-sized swords/lightsabers is really karking hard and a shoto/saber combo usually would make more sense. Better control and all that as even handling one weapon is hard enough for all but the best, most experienced swordsmen. For example, Kas'im dual-wielding makes sense because that's what he was, among the best fighters of his era.

Normally, you wielded your dagger close as a defensive weapon to free up your sword arm for offense. I suppose that's more traditional where Ataru would be more wushu-like in its broad, sweeping motions.

Anyway, maybe I am thinking too logically in an imaginary setting. However, it just bugs me when people claim their characters are master sword fighters but don't have any reference to how swords/sword-like weapons are actually used.

 

[Valiens Nantaris]

[member="Break"]
You agree with them being used, or you don't?

 

[Ignatius]

Anyway, maybe I am thinking too logically in an imaginary setting. However, it just bugs me when people claim their characters are master sword fighters but don't have any reference to how swords/sword-like weapons are actually used.

And what is your refrence for using lightsabers?

And if you say the Star Wars Wiki, I am so going to bring up so many other pages about how someone can use a Katana, or other style of sword.

I mean, who here really is versed and practiced Lightsaber combat? None of us becuase it's not real. So I believe you are getting a little bit to technical about how people fight on here. The purpose of this site is to have fun. Have fun how you want, and let others who want a more fantasy styled star wars have fun how they want.

If you don't like it, then don't rp with them. simple.