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Gravity Ship

So I was thinking about what to do with Neuranium, it seems a rather difficult item to use, what with it being an incredibly dense and mass filled material.

I came across an idea and I wanted to ask about it.

So the concept is that a ship covered in Neuranium, not a fighter something along the lines of a capital ship, is made to be a massive droid base for Ultimatum. I was wondering about the effects of such a vessel, specifically the effects of gravity and what not. Obviously this ship will be so heavy that it cannot easily enter an atmosphere or near a planet I would assume. But I learned a little about the theory of time and space and how mass bends both. (I am in no way learned in the subject, I read a few minor notes and am trying to understand the repercussions.) If for example a star destroyer was covered in an inch of Neuranium, aside from that being an incredibly expensive endeavor, the ship would have a truly enormous gravity field compared to most Star Destroyers correct?

Second, what would happen to time in such a vessel? I read and was told that movement through space and simple being mass filled, Black Holes for instance, can slow time. Not by much in most cases, but I recall being told that theoretically in a Black Hole after a point time stops. Would the effect of such a dense vessel be somewhat similar, in so far as time would move slower inside the ship?


Thank you all for you time.
 

Saki

Came in like a wrecking maul
as someone who has done this challenge and even then just barely reaching the goal for what I made... good luck, my gloves were easy. a ship with that stuff.
 
Really? How long did you thread have to be for the gloves? [member="Saki"]

I got an eleven post thread done all by myself, though I was thinking of starting a new one and getting more people the next time to hopefully reach a higher count.
 
[member="Ultimatum"]

Everyone has their own clock. I go away, don't notice any relativistic effects and come back, we compare clocks and find out my time differs from your time.

From your perspective even as you fall into a black hole everything is pretty normal. The outside world looks a bit distorted and you'll get the agony of tidal forces tearing every part of you from every other part of you before you hit the singularity.

It's only from the perspective of an outside observer that you slow down as you reach the event horizon.

However, it should be noted that gravity is a really, really, reeeally weak force. Think of how a hundred grams of magnet can counter the effect of a planet weighing 6x10^24kg. The weight of any ship isn't going to be significant enough to introduce any observable relativistic effects. You'd be better off playing with gravity well generators.
 

Saki

Came in like a wrecking maul
[member="Ultimatum"]
I did ten posts in a thread with two other people and still think I only got lucky because it was submitted right before the factory was closing for holiday break. They are the Fists of Fabula in my sig,
 
Okay so I think I understand what is being said. If I may try to summarize the theoretical effect of the slowing of time is more of an illusion? Or is it that while time appears normal to the person going into the black hole it is actually going slower?

As for the effects of any ship that was what I was wondering about. Neuranium, in the wiki anyways, "was so dense that some gravity-sensitive species noted its warping of the space-time fabric of gravity itself that a large piece created." Would a very large amount create a gravity well?

I think part of the issue with my understanding is because I know nothing of the material within context of stories. I am not sure if you have read anything that talks about it, but do you know what is meant by a 'large piece'? Because my mind goes to something as much as a meter square as being large.

Sorry if I am slow to catch on, just trying to learn and I appreciate the help.

[member="Raziel"]
 
Well it's not an illusion, it's just that you've slowed down too so you don't notice. If you really want to play with relativity, I'd suggest removing the relativistic shield from your ship and jumping to hyperspace. Though considering the time dilation mentioned was two hours in hyper moved the guy forward 190 years I'd think that the only real useful feature would be that it'd let you bring a character into play from the far-off past or maybe a different board with a previous date like 30 ABY opposed to 830 ABY.

[member="Ultimatum"]
 
That is an interesting idea [member="Domino"].

So I have been doing a bit of reading on Wikipedia about Time dilation, Spacetime, Gravity wells, and Gravitational Time dilation. I do not believe I understood everything that was said, if anything.

What I think I understood was that being closer to a large body of mass does make time appear to slow, based on an outside observer. I assume this means that time does actually slow it just does not appear to from point of view of the person closer to the mass. The same is true if traveling at higher speeds, the whole of idea of going to hyperspace without the special shielding and having appeared to have traveled through time. Is this all correct?

So if a ship were covered in Nueranium, or perhaps it would be completely made out of it not sure, then it would slow time? It would probably not be very much? I am uncertain due to the fact that from what I know it is unknown how much the material actually weighs and how dense it is, which I guess would give everyone a better idea of the effects, aside from large amounts bending the spacetime.

[member="Raziel"] [member="Bianca"]
 
[member="Ultimatum"]
If it is heavy enough to slow time for any significant period of time, it is probably heavy enough to create a gravitational pull strong enough to crush whatever gets too close to it.

When referring to time dilation as occurred by gravitational pull due to mass & density, I mean.
 
Okay. So it would have to be quite large to even begin to alter time in a noticeable manner. Thanks.

Guess I'll put this on the back burner of things for now, probably make some more dev threads for neuranium and turn into a company factory ship kinda deal.

What do you think a three thousand meter ship made of neuranium would be mass-wise? Close to a moon? Or large asteroid?

[member="Lisette Kuhn"]
 

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