Invasion of Roche OOC [GR vs Mandos]

[Abigail Selonna]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]

If you were intending to do PVP and didn't want the story to dictate actions, you should have stuck with just doing the PVP.

You set about attempting to negotiate with the Mandalorians, story-wise that is perfect and well within your position. You set about setting up contingency orders in case the Republic couldn't hold sectors of the base. That is perfect and well within your position, and it added to the story.

However, you seem to not want people to react to what you do story-wise as their characters would, which in this case would be to do everything in their power to stop people venting atmosphere in a civilian installation.

Add to that the fact that you need to traverse a great deal of distance in space to get from Nickel One to Reshmar's fleet at the edge of the system, in a ship with a damaged stealth system (a fact you wrote into it).

But, lets say you made it to Reshmar's fleet without being gotten to (something I know people will have issue with). In order to land on any of Reshmars ship, the pilot would have to give clearance. Their clearance would likely be "The Supreme Commander is aboard and says let us land." The Republics military forces have essentially been instructed by the Vice Chancellor to detain you for investigation into allegations of dereliction of duty and war crimes. The broadcast was made quite public from what I am to understand. There is no way a military organization is going to ignore the word of the Vice Chancellor, especially as that person is likely holding the powers of Chancellor until a vote can be held.

The way I see it, you have the choice of facing the space fish in your stealth transport, or you deal with being detained in Reshmars fleet. That would be the way I see it, and all of this is simply my 2 scents.

 

[Captain Larraq]

You jumped in as a group was already involved (with gang ups being barred by the invasion agreement) as we were already making good on an objective.

As far as I'm aware, people have only been coming at you in twos and threes. Most of which aiming to subdue instead of kill.

That's... fairly on par with the terms of the invasion and much more toned down than I've seen in a number of other invasions.
And, unlike in other invasions where one poor sod is just wandering around and happens to get jumped by 4+ Knights, what's going on here is actually relevant to the roleplaying going on and makes sense.

The IC leader of the Republic Military has egged on a hostile force that may have otherwise been able to be talked down and engaged in questionable activities that may or may not have led to the death of a number of civilians and at least one Jedi.

Had you just been wandering around looking for your opponent to duel, you would have been left alone to roleplay that out.



But instead you ignored your voluntary duel and sought to adjust the flow of the story to better suit your goals and desires.
If you want to run around as such, that's fine. But you need to allow the opposing side the chance to engage and counter your. What you are doing borders on the lines of godmoding and I am asking very nicely to tone it down.

If you want to fly all the way to the Star Destroyer in a single post, that's fine. But Naast'ika gets to write his view of that entire trip in his next post as well. Which, unfortunately, means that you've written yourself into quite a considerable disadvantage as you'll be at the mercy of every action taken by Naast'ika from his first contact with you until the end of your last post.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member="Abigail Selonna"]

Someone in Ali's position would be expected to handle certain things, yes. And she did. And then she trotted off to go to her PvP.

Exactly as you just said. Exactly.

Then an entirely different character commits to a certain action, and suddenly a mob of characters not only know exactly who is responsible (but really don't), they also know where she is at all times, are able to conveniently access her location, and do so in twos and threes. [member= Captain Larraq], that was quite literally definition of gang up, one against many. And apparently ghosts are involved now. (Not sure what to even do with that one...)

What I'm having to do now is balance a story that is being written with the PvP nature of the invasion and my prescribed battle, and the impromptu battles that have cropped up.
And I'm trying to do a good job of it all at the same time.


Larraq, you're talking about Ali's banter as if a large, hostile force of known war mongers hadn't dropped by.
The egging on started when the fleet showed up and Mando'ade started flooding the station with massively armored and armed soldiers, and then ignored initial attempts at contact.
What should the Supreme Commander of an army think, that you're here for breakfast?

I'm totally down with fighting that...thing, but forgive me if I felt it better to start us off on a slate where I could focus solely on the fight and not have to worry about any of that aforementioned story baggage. You seem to be okay with that, and I'll ensure that our actual engagement is every bit as evenly paced and fair to us both as it can be, I promise you that.

 

[Kaile Vera]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]

story baggage.

IC actions have IC consequences.

I sincerely doubt anything you do in this invasion will stop the joint task force of Jedi / Mando/ Republic train of focus that is coming your way.

Point of it is; if you engage people in your actions, expect them to reply back, as that is their right. This isn't a one person story where it is fanfiction and you can write out your own ending.

It is collaborative writing.

And well.. you collaborated in interacting with the bulk of those in this invasion with your NPC actions relayed by your own PC actions.

... you basically PVP'd against all applicable participants. You initiated combat, they are reacting.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]



IC actions have IC consequences.

I sincerely doubt anything you do in this invasion will stop the joint task force of Jedi / Mando/ Republic train of focus that is coming your way.

Point of it is; if you engage people in your actions, expect them to reply back, as that is their right.

Very true, but we must also balance that with the goals and guidelines of the invasion itself, and that's what I'm endeavoring to do.

 

[Kaile Vera]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]

The goals and the outlines of the invasion itself says this.

PVP -- ... you basically PVP'd against all applicable participants. You initiated combat, they are reacting.

You literally opened yourself up for PVP combat per the terms and this is valid.

 

[Captain Larraq]

Larraq, you're talking about Ali's banter as if a large, hostile force of known war mongers hadn't dropped by.

Mandal Hypernautics isn't known as war monger---- ok, fine. war mongers.

The egging on started when the fleet showed up and Mando'ade started flooding the station with massively armored and armed soldiers, and then ignored initial attempts at contact.

When did we ignore attempts at contact? Can you provide a quote?

and do so in twos and threes. Captain Larraq, that was quite literally definition of gang up

Has anyone actually opened fire or launched a physical attack at your character? Can you provide quotes? Can you provide quotes showing that two characters, at the same time, attacked you?
When confronted with such a situation, did you IC request to be engaged 1v1? Can you provide quotes?

I'm totally down with fighting that...thing

D=

Naast'ika is an adorable space puppy, not a thing!

forgive me if I felt it better to start us off on a slate where I could focus solely on the fight and not have to worry about any of that aforementioned story baggage. You seem to be okay with that, and I'll ensure that our actual engagement is every bit as evenly paced and fair to us both as it can be, I promise you that.

Ah, you're not giving me enough credit. Fast or slow, you were in a stealth ship and none of Naast'ika's starfighters are decked out to track stealth systems. The visual cloak is low quality and you have a damaged wing... you'd also be running as quick as you can while dodging asteroids. You'd have been chased by a handful of fighters and a corvette through an asteroid field... They would have shot at you, lost you, saw a sensor ghost, raced to intercept, found you again, shot at and lost you again.

You don't have to be in a top of the line starfighter to have a good fight. (not that I'm one to talk. Naast'ika and friends are all decked out in bling-mail.)
And had you made it close enough to the Republic Fleet, Naast'ika would of had to break off. He's a tough little bugger, but he can't take the combined fire of an entire flotilla.

 

[Kamon's OOC]

You jumped in as a group was already involved (with gang ups being barred by the invasion agreement) as we were already making good on an objective.
Yes. That. I was very annoyed by that.
I understand the fun, free-flow nature of everything, which is why I've been so far cool with Ali having become an instant celebrity (amazing job disseminating information IC, everyone is getting to Ali so quickly!), but the fact is we made pairings for a reason, and I've been trying to get to mine. I should be allowed that, I feel.

You killed hundreds of people. That isn't going to be ignored. You were also not engaging in your "pairing" which makes you a free roamer at that point. You were running to the hangars where I was. I'm not going to ignore that. I'm not ignoring story for the sake of your "pairing."

Does not excuse the millions of actions you do per post. Nor does it excuse your leaving without allowing people a chance to stop you and the verpine. Strictly speaking, that was kind of power gamey.

 

[Abigail Selonna]

[member="Abigail Selonna"]

Someone in Ali's position would be expected to handle certain things, yes. And she did. And then she trotted off to go to her PvP.

Exactly as you just said. Exactly.

Then an entirely different character commits to a certain action, and suddenly a mob of characters not only know exactly who is responsible (but really don't), they also know where she is at all times, are able to conveniently access her location, and do so in twos and threes. [member= Captain Larraq], that was quite literally definition of gang up, one against many. And apparently ghosts are involved now. (Not sure what to even do with that one...)

What I'm having to do now is balance a story that is being written with the PvP nature of the invasion and my prescribed battle, and the impromptu battles that have cropped up.
And I'm trying to do a good job of it all at the same time.


Larraq, you're talking about Ali's banter as if a large, hostile force of known war mongers hadn't dropped by.
The egging on started when the fleet showed up and Mando'ade started flooding the station with massively armored and armed soldiers, and then ignored initial attempts at contact.
What should the Supreme Commander of an army think, that you're here for breakfast?

I'm totally down with fighting that...thing, but forgive me if I felt it better to start us off on a slate where I could focus solely on the fight and not have to worry about any of that aforementioned story baggage. You seem to be okay with that, and I'll ensure that our actual engagement is every bit as evenly paced and fair to us both as it can be, I promise you that.

You still need to let people react to your posts.

You still need to take into account what else is happening in the story because of Ali's actions.

If you make it to Reshmars fleet, you'd likely not make it off again without being detained as the VC has stated you are to be.

Ali would likely have received that communique as well, which would amount to Ali being ordered to turn herself over.

This is a great story, but you have to play it out as it develops. You can't just say "timeout" so you can go fight this person over here without anyone else interfering, that isn't a realistic option anymore because of actions, both Ali's and others.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Captain Larraq]

How about I make some easy changes so you can I can resolve this bump amicably? I can easily cut the end of the post off, saving it for later. That will wrap up the conversation I have taking place within the shuttle, giving you enough time to show up and commit whatever actions you want to against the shuttle for your first shout out. We go back and forth from there as long as we want, and then (you mentioned not wanting to stick around the big fleet) if the shuttle lasts that long, you can break off. We get the Verps aboard, I can add that section I cut and saved to wrap up that part of the story, and then Ali heads back out into the fray, knowing you're still out there, and we finish it!

How's that sound?

Edit:
[member=Abigail Selonna]

Accounting for the broadcast should be easy, and can be included at the end of the conversation in my aforementioned edits.

 

[Captain Larraq]

[member="Ali Hadrix"]

It's fine either way. Naast'ika's next post will cover the actions he took while following you to the star destroyer.

 

[Ali Hadrix]

[member=Captain Larraq]

There you go mate. I left off at a perfect "Star Wars" moment to interrupt, if you want to take advantage.

 

[Seraphina Shel'tah]

This invasion is making me so proud.

 

[Kaile Vera]

[member="Seraphina Shel'tah"]​

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now get to posting​

 

[The End Narrator]

You know, the hurt is real.

#forceghostsmatter

 

[Vorhi Alestrani]

[member="Aaralyn Rekali"]


Aye, they do. And now, their afterlives are in my hands. Which is likely a bad decision, but there we go.

 

[Anija Betna]

[member="Aaralyn Rekali"] <3 you

 

[Gilamar Skirata]

[member="Weiss"] battle buddy?

 

[Katalyn]

Just a reminder to all in the central hub
me and [member="Valkren Calderon"] are having a duel

[member="Vulpesen"]
[member="Laguz Vald"]​
[member="Rigor"]
[member="Thrukk Gulpdar"]

Also vulpesen, we have control of the hanger bay, with a lot of Mandalorians, so you need another way in.
Like be their already

 

[Anija Betna]

[member="Vulpesen"]
[member="Laguz Vald"]​
[member="Rigor"]
[member="Thrukk Gulpdar"]

Please don't Dogpile Check the first post for duel pairings. That's why the list is there